ableguy Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 This is for a friend, I myself have been living here for 5 years for you armchair pundits. Ref police report my friend has done some time ( prison ) Some kind of truck theft. he has been married to a Thai for over ten years living in the UK she really sorted him out been on the straight and narrow ever since. Any idea what would stop him from retiring here ( 65 ) years old ref police report. Is there any statute of limitation for police record. ? Any help would be appreciated, I am a USA citizen not familiar with UK law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Not sure but I know that I got a police report that was clean and I have a criminal record but over 25 years ago. I believe that is is 'spent' after 10 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketjock Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) No police report required for retirement extension as far as I know, was the crime commited in Thailand or UK? If not Thailand can't see a problem. Edited December 12, 2013 by phuketjock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted December 12, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2013 I thought you only require a 'police report' if you want to work at a school. Back in the UK these 'police reports' are creating a new underclass, people who have any kind of 'caution' or conviction going back to when they were a child are finding they can't get jobs now. This is all new legislation introduced by the Labour party on behalf of the British working people. LOL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 A police report is is only needed for a OA visa application. He can get a non-o visa from one of the honorary consulates based upon marriage to a Thai. And then get an extension of stay at immigration based upon marriage or retirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie1971 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) The English 'Criminal' check highlights all misdemeanours from the year zero, even if you are 70 years old and committed a very minor offence when you were 17. However, if you apply to the Scottish Police for a report they consider spent convictions spent (not sure about serious offences) and you will receive a clean report The Scottish Police ask for no evidence of you ever having lived in Scotland and the foreign authorities will accept it as it comes from a UK Police force Hope this helps Cheers Edited December 12, 2013 by Richie1971 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassde Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Do not apply for an O-A visa and no police report is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycjoe Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 If you come to thailand on a non o three month visa, they do not require a police report if you apply for your retirement visa here, at least they haven't in chiang mai, they do if you apply in the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I have a question on the same subject, hopefully someone has an answer. I would like to retire in Thailand as well, however I have a very old criminal record, here in California, USA. It was nothing heinous, and my last involvement was 24 years ago. Would this be a problem for me? I never went to prison, and did nothing involving violence, sex crimes, etc. It was related to a substance abuse problem, resolved over 22 years ago. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoli Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 No police report required for retirement extension as far as I know, was the crime commited in Thailand or UK? If not Thailand can't see a problem. For an American to apply for a Retirement Visa you must supply a police report from the city or county that you live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoli Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I have a question on the same subject, hopefully someone has an answer. I would like to retire in Thailand as well, however I have a very old criminal record, here in California, USA. It was nothing heinous, and my last involvement was 24 years ago. Would this be a problem for me? I never went to prison, and did nothing involving violence, sex crimes, etc. It was related to a substance abuse problem, resolved over 22 years ago. Thanks. It cost me $10 to get a police report in the states. Just go ahead and ask for one and see what it says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Apply for a non-O visa at a honorary consulate and no police clearnece is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 No police report required for retirement extension as far as I know, was the crime commited in Thailand or UK? If not Thailand can't see a problem. For an American to apply for a Retirement Visa you must supply a police report from the city or county that you live in. If you apply for an O/A, "long stay" visa in the US you must have a police report. However, you can either apply for a single entry Non-O visa (Only available at an Honorary Consulates at present) and extend it for 1 tear for retirement in LOS, No police report required. You can also come on either a visa exempt entry or a tourist visa and convert either to a Non-O and then extend for retirement, no police report required. The most significant difference from an O/A and a retirement extension other than the police and medical certificate is that with an O/A you do not have to have money in a Thai Bank, with an extension, if you choose the bank deposit method, 800k must be in your name in a Thai bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I am reliably informed by a UK ex con' living in Thailand that after ten years all British prison sentences, no matter what the offence, are considered 'spent' and therefore there is no problem getting a Police report if it is really needed. However; there are many options that avoid Police reports anyway so no problems need be encountered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I thought you only require a 'police report' if you want to work at a school. Back in the UK these 'police reports' are creating a new underclass, people who have any kind of 'caution' or conviction going back to when they were a child are finding they can't get jobs now. This is all new legislation introduced by the Labour party on behalf of the British working people. LOL Having worked at 5 schools in 4 years, I have never been asked for a police report. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I have a question on the same subject, hopefully someone has an answer. I would like to retire in Thailand as well, however I have a very old criminal record, here in California, USA. It was nothing heinous, and my last involvement was 24 years ago. Would this be a problem for me? I never went to prison, and did nothing involving violence, sex crimes, etc. It was related to a substance abuse problem, resolved over 22 years ago. Thanks. As stated by another poster, go and get a police report, it will show or not show a criminal record. In Canada we can get a Federal Pardon as long as it has been 5 years since your last conviction. You record becomes sealed and a regular police check, ie traffic etc., shows no record on their computers. The first question on most job applications in Canada now is "Have you ever been convicted of a criminal offense." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) To the OP: your UK friend will need to submit a Subject Access disclosure application to his local police force if he is applying for an O-A (as distinct from O) visa. Further info on http://www.acro.police.uk/subject_access.aspx Edited December 13, 2013 by OJAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassde Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Re the Subject Access report, it will take up to 40 days to be received following receipt of the application. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ableguy Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 Many thanks for your help everyone. Myself I applied here in LOS and had to supply a police report. My friend lives near Hull in UK I know they have a consulate there so will pass on all your info.l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Many thanks for your help everyone. Myself I applied here in LOS and had to supply a police report. My friend lives near Hull in UK I know they have a consulate there so will pass on all your info.lWhat did you apply for that required a police report?Retirement extensions do not require a police report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Many thanks for your help everyone. Myself I applied here in LOS and had to supply a police report. My friend lives near Hull in UK I know they have a consulate there so will pass on all your info.l Did immigration demand a police report so that you had to get one, or is it possible that you gave them one because you thought you had to? TiT. Never say never. Anyone here will tell you that no medical is required in Thailand for an O, but the immigration officer I dealt with demanded one. Perhaps she didn't know the difference between O and OA? I went to a doctor and with no exam but a few baht got a form signed and was golden. I will say again. If I again want an O with a retirement extension, I'll get visa on arrival. I will go to immigration with passport, pictures and bank income statements (just in case) and an income letter from the Bangkok Embassy and convert to O which is for 90 days. When less than 30 days remain I will return to immigration and get the extension based on retirement. There is no reason to tolerate varying requirements from home countries, and I hear Hull can be one of the worst for Brits? Officially, there is no requirement for criminal or medical checks, and very few will have any problem. (I could pass either, but why?) Edited December 13, 2013 by NeverSure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I suggest if panning to do a conversion it is best to get a single entry tourist visa. The 15 days that you have to apply can go away quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBoldnewguy Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I have a question on the same subject, hopefully someone has an answer. I would like to retire in Thailand as well, however I have a very old criminal record, here in California, USA. It was nothing heinous, and my last involvement was 24 years ago. Would this be a problem for me? I never went to prison, and did nothing involving violence, sex crimes, etc. It was related to a substance abuse problem, resolved over 22 years ago. Thanks. Do you have a US passport? US does not issue/honor passports to convicted felons/ if you owe back child support/ etc. If you do have one then you may be ok. To get the report go to local police and ask for it - costs a couple bucks - if it looks bad then you know better than put out the big bucks to Embassy for Visa + mailing costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptict11 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I have a question on the same subject, hopefully someone has an answer. I would like to retire in Thailand as well, however I have a very old criminal record, here in California, USA. It was nothing heinous, and my last involvement was 24 years ago. Would this be a problem for me? I never went to prison, and did nothing involving violence, sex crimes, etc. It was related to a substance abuse problem, resolved over 22 years ago. Thanks. Do you have a US passport? US does not issue/honor passports to convicted felons/ if you owe back child support/ etc. If you do have one then you may be ok. To get the report go to local police and ask for it - costs a couple bucks - if it looks bad then you know better than put out the big bucks to Embassy for Visa + mailing costs. A conviction for "substance" abuse will not go down well with Thai authority ! There are other means of securing a long term stay besides the O/A visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketjock Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Many thanks for your help everyone. Myself I applied here in LOS and had to supply a police report. My friend lives near Hull in UK I know they have a consulate there so will pass on all your info.l Did immigration demand a police report so that you had to get one, or is it possible that you gave them one because you thought you had to? TiT. Never say never. Anyone here will tell you that no medical is required in Thailand for an O, but the immigration officer I dealt with demanded one. Perhaps she didn't know the difference between O and OA? I went to a doctor and with no exam but a few baht got a form signed and was golden. I will say again. If I again want an O with a retirement extension, I'll get visa on arrival. I will go to immigration with passport, pictures and bank income statements (just in case) and an income letter from the Bangkok Embassy and convert to O which is for 90 days. When less than 30 days remain I will return to immigration and get the extension based on retirement. There is no reason to tolerate varying requirements from home countries, and I hear Hull can be one of the worst for Brits? Officially, there is no requirement for criminal or medical checks, and very few will have any problem. (I could pass either, but why?) I am currently on my 7th extension of my non- immigrant "O" visa for the purpose of retirement. I entered Thailand on a visa exempt entry stamp back in 2007 and applied for a retirement extension and was given the non "O" visa at Phuket immigration office to give me the time to season the money required for the retirement extension, no medical/police report required, so tell your freind to do the same. You cannot as far as I know apply for a retirement extension from an external embassy/consulate. There is, to my knowledge, no such thing as a retirement visa in Thailand. If I am wrong I am confident someone will tell me. Hope this is of some assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I came to Thailand on a non B,,, after 1 year changed this to a Retired extension NO Police Report Required if you apply for that extension in Thailand,,100% Sure,, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Many thanks for your help everyone. Myself I applied here in LOS and had to supply a police report. My friend lives near Hull in UK I know they have a consulate there so will pass on all your info.l Did immigration demand a police report so that you had to get one, or is it possible that you gave them one because you thought you had to? TiT. Never say never. Anyone here will tell you that no medical is required in Thailand for an O, but the immigration officer I dealt with demanded one. Perhaps she didn't know the difference between O and OA? I went to a doctor and with no exam but a few baht got a form signed and was golden. I will say again. If I again want an O with a retirement extension, I'll get visa on arrival. I will go to immigration with passport, pictures and bank income statements (just in case) and an income letter from the Bangkok Embassy and convert to O which is for 90 days. When less than 30 days remain I will return to immigration and get the extension based on retirement. There is no reason to tolerate varying requirements from home countries, and I hear Hull can be one of the worst for Brits? Officially, there is no requirement for criminal or medical checks, and very few will have any problem. (I could pass either, but why?) I am currently on my 7th extension of my non- immigrant "O" visa for the purpose of retirement.I entered Thailand on a visa exempt entry stamp back in 2007 and applied for a retirement extensionand was given the non "O" visa at Phuket immigration office to give me the time to season the moneyrequired for the retirement extension, no medical/police report required, so tell your freind to do the same.You cannot as far as I know apply for a retirement extension from an external embassy/consulate. Thereis, to my knowledge, no such thing as a retirement visa in Thailand. If I am wrong I am confident someonewill tell me. Hope this is of some assistance. I am reliably informed by a UK ex con' living in Thailand that after ten years all British prison sentences, no matter what the offence, are considered 'spent' and therefore there is no problem getting a Police report if it is really needed. However; there are many options that avoid Police reports anyway so no problems need be encountered.Not strictly true certain classes of offences are not considered spent after 10 years in the UK Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nithisa78 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I came to Thailand on a non B,,, after 1 year changed this to a Retired extension NO Police Report Required if you apply for that extension in Thailand,,100% Sure,, This is also accurate, 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) A police record check is not needed in Thailand. If he tries to get a retirement O-A visa in the U.K. the U.K. will require a police records check. He will not need that report by getting a non immigrant O visa in the U.K., it is not required for that visa. The visa will get him into Thailand ... for at least 90 days if a single entry and maybe a year if they will allow him a one year multi entry Non O .... they may not but he can probably get a 90 day visa. He can then convert his visa to an extension for one year in Thailand by meeting the financial requirement. (800K Baht in a Thai Bank account in his name or a monthly income of 65,000 Thai Baht equivalent) That extension will require 90 day reporting at his local immigration, but there is NO police report requirement for that visa. As I said before, an O-A retirement visa from the Thai consulate may need a police report to obtain .... so avoid an O-A retirement visa in your home country if you think you may have problems with a police records check in your home country. Instead go for that non immigrant O visa from the Thai consulate in your home country and then extend it for retirement once you're in Thailand. It's totally legal .... the police records check is only required in your home country, and only if you apply for that O-A retirement visa. By the way this also applies to a doctors check/certification. Edited December 13, 2013 by IMA_FARANG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB2 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) A police report is is only needed for a OA visa application. He can get a non-o visa from one of the honorary consulates based upon marriage to a Thai. And then get an extension of stay at immigration based upon marriage or retirement. Not quite true... Thai Permanent Residence 'PR' application also asks for (amongst many other things), a criminal record background check in both Thailand and your passport country, together with DNA and fingerprint tests to verify you're not flagged on any international criminal databases, and are not a Thai 'persona-non-grata' Both myself and my family have been through this process over the last few months, which is conducted at Thai Police HQ in Bangkok. For United Kingdom passport holders, the Criminal record certificate is obtained from ACPO 'The Association of Chief Police Officers' information is given on the ACPO website here http://www.acro.police.uk . The certificate takes a month or two before it is delivered to you. My old eyes detected more than ten anti tamper devices in the certificate printing format - it is at least as secure as a bank note, and could well be printed at the Royal Mint for all the trouble that has gone into making it secure. For Thai admin/visa purposes (in my instance) a certified copy of the ACPO document had to be notarised at the British Embassy prior to handing over to Bangkok Immigration for due process... I have attached an example certificate of a well known suspicious character for your perusal The report will state either 'NO TRACE’ meaning no criminal record on file 'NO LIVE TRACE' meaning that you have a criminal record, but that it is deemed no longer relevant. It does remain in your criminal history file though. 'FURTHER INFORMATION STEPPED DOWN' meaning active criminal record (non-expired) with citations listed on the certificate. Not good. More information on the certificate and definition of terms is given on the ACPO website. Edited December 13, 2013 by SteveB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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