Thaksin Regime to return after election: Thai Democrat

[ianf]

Sadly enough after listening to the neo-facist Sutheps rants over the last couple of weeks, PTP seems like a not so bad alternative anymore!!

I know, they are rotten to the core and corrupt beyond believe, but the lesser of the two evils!

I don't know where you get the idea that Suthep is a neo-fascist. Fascism describes the Thaksin regime. I have oft quoted Reich and Hitler's Mein Kampf to justify my opinion and can't be hacked to do so again.

It is interesting to note the support and type of support that Suthep garners. I would agree that he's not the best PR parcel, but here's an individual who's prepared to put his head on the block for a set of principles which is quite a tough thing for Thais to do. I respect him for that. I know good people, really good people, (thais) who support him all the way and some of these are country folk - not city academics. Neither are they ideologues in the manner of the reds. So, sorry mate, calling Suthep a neo-fascist shows a lack of understanding of real politic.

[Dasekel]

Sadly enough after listening to the neo-facist Sutheps rants over the last couple of weeks, PTP seems like a not so bad alternative anymore!!

I know, they are rotten to the core and corrupt beyond believe, but the lesser of the two evils!

I am not in favour of emotinal posts, but in this case I have to say: What a rubbish! You really think PTP and TS are the lesser evil? Many years ago somebody was talking about the axis of evil, including Iran, North Korea and Syria. TS would qualify. What happened during his reign was bad enough, but what happened in Thailand because of him, his ego and his greed is far from over yet and when we finally will see the end of it, it might be much worse than what we see right now.

[Dasekel]

Well, your mouth to God's ear Jurit if the election returns Thaksin et al through the Pheu Thai Party as they're the only ones with a clue about successfully running a country. Which is not to say they're perfect.

Unless you consider this incoherent thought the route to a successful future for Thailand, the Democrat party with tail between legs abdicating a role in government and "My party" holding a political reform forum that "everybody wants to see" where "everybody" equals generously 80,000 to 130,000 Bangkokian sheep and demagogue leaders.

"During the election times, the Democrat Party would not campaign against Thaksin regime because a lot of people step over it. My party would hold a political reform forum for creating the future of Thailand that everybody want to see,"

And be sure to keep attempting to block the Feb 2 election as a clear reminder of what a "political reform forum" might look like under your band of demagogues.

Wow, "Thaksin et al through the Pheu Thai Party as they're the only ones with a clue about successfully running a country. Which is not to say they're perfect."

You are the proof that parallel universes exist, because the one I am living in did not show that Thailand benefitted from the PTP having a clue about successfully running the country. I am surely not sayong the Democrats have a clue, because they don't, but TS and the PTP do not run the country for the benefit of the people, but for the benefit of the shareholders, which are the cronies of TS. There was a reason why he promoted the CEO system for Thailand, because he always thought about Thailand as being his property with him being the Executive Manager.

[Yunla]

When one discovers flaws and loopholes in a system, that allow unscrupulous people to exploit those loopholes for their own criminal purposes, one closes the loopholes, and fixes the flaws. One does not burn down the entire system. Especially when the system itself is now painfully aware that it is in mortal danger, and is willing to listen to suggestions on fixing said abuse-of-power loopholes.

And by the way, she really was playing Tetris at that state funeral. I'd recognise that look anywhere.

Edited December 23, 2013 by Yunla

[PeterSmiles]

Don't even give them (PTP) a chance at the election - they will buy their way in as they've done it before!

The Democrat people paid my wife's family last time and they voted for Yingluk.

So the PTP paid more....

The Democrat people paid my wife's family last time and they voted for Yingluk.

And so did tens of thousands of others without receiving one baht via PTP

They only got promised to receive many thousands of Baht over the market price for their rice harvest.

Unfortunately many of them are still waiting for the single first Baht for their last harvest.

[Dasekel]

Sadly enough after listening to the neo-facist Sutheps rants over the last couple of weeks, PTP seems like a not so bad alternative anymore!!

I know, they are rotten to the core and corrupt beyond believe, but the lesser of the two evils!

doesn't it get boring to write "fascist" in every posting, without ever give a reason?

Just repeat it often enough in the hope something will keep sticking....

Fascism is this: one faction trying to seize power without regard for the majority or the bulk of the population.

Fascism is not only applicable to ruthless crimes and pogroms (although historically they fall in that category) but to the one faction (in this case Suthep and company) trying to overrule democratic institutions, the Constitution or the the will of elected officials. Do you believe that Suthep will retire from politics, as he claimed? Why is an old politico who was caught red handed when Minister of Agriculture and resigned not to be indicted, why is he bent of seizing power, allegedly, for the "people". What people? His people? What is his chief motivation? Not altruistic for sure.

Vote buying goes on from both sides. The money is spent by Democrats and PTPs on people who would vote anyway for those parties of their allegiance. Spare us the same litany about Paymaster, the puppet Master in Dubai.

Democrats, at this point in time of Thai history are the worst of all evils.

Is this taken form the Pisico dictionary? It is pretty much rubbish.

Try this one: nat http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

there are a number of definitions, none of which matches yours and they are closer to describe PTP than the democrats (which I consider useless, by the way). One of those definitions goes like this:

fas·cism

noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\

: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government

: very harsh control or authority

[Baerboxer]

try to understand that no matter who's money they take they vote for who they want - no one is watching and it's a lie that they would not vote the way they have and the way they WILL

The DSGP (Democrat Sour Grapes Party) won't stop them unless they disenfranchise their vote (which is what they are trying to do)

Utter crap! I can assure you my relations are all told who to vote for by their village headman and receive payment - when the whole village votes are counted to make sure no one defaulted. They don't question this - they want the money and are scared to do otherwise. All their friends and neighbours are the same. Nothing democratic about this at all.

[Dasekel]

Suthep will need a box of tissues urgently, if not a complete change of underwear after hearing this news. Not exactly a calming measure in these tense times.Good old Thaksin, never a dull moment.

It's pretty obvious if the election goes ahead without the democrats, then PTP will win assuming enough voters turn out and reprecent at least 75% of the voting public. So not so cut and dried!

PTP will be even worse if that is possible once returned to power. That will be the time things turn ugly!

The real question is will the military stand by and watch. They seem to be the last resort, as the politicians are incapable of resolving anything. Maybe that is what the people should be taking notice of. That they are the cannon fodder to these elitists who call themselves politicians? Red or Yellow.

I'm sure PTP and the majority of Thai's would like to sincerely thank Suthep for his efforts in ensuring a balanced political future for Thailand.

I'm not sure what you mean here. But it maytbe that in twenty years- not Thaksin, but Yingluck will be regarded as the person that shepherded Thailand through the last gasping breaths of the feudal system and into the modern.

Despite a cabinet largely composed of incompetent idiots- a brother who is no better than Suthep- a population that somehow managed to duck when the enlightenment swept the world - she alone is a voice of compromise and reason in this mess.

Unlike those who know that Thaksin speaks to Hitler's ghost on a nightly basis- I don't know very much- but based on my somewhat limitied understanding of history,

Yingluck will eclipse Thaksin. He will be recognized as a gross opportunist who cared not for Thailand but for a legacy as the Heir apparant to Lee Kwan Yeu.

Yingluck will have a statue. And goddamn it- she deserves one!!!

I don't believe a word of this. BUT, I would love it if you were right and in that case please remind me to take you out for a grtand dinner and stuff! I indeed think that YS is not a 100% puppet or at least she is probably educated enough to hate being dominated by a man and would love to proove that she is her own master. However, I fear she does not have the qualities that are required for this job. How on earht could she go on and be away from BKK during these times? She is avoiding the physical reminder of trouble and that is not what you need from a leader in such times to shepherded Thailand through the last gasping breaths of the feudal system and into the modern.

She might be willing to do the real right thing, but I fear she is not capacble and of course in no position to do so. Big Brother and many other within PTP would loose too much to let this happen.

[Roadman]

Well, your mouth to God's ear Jurit if the election returns Thaksin et al through the Pheu Thai Party as they're the only ones with a clue about successfully running a country. Which is not to say they're perfect.

Unless you consider this incoherent thought the route to a successful future for Thailand, the Democrat party with tail between legs abdicating a role in government and "My party" holding a political reform forum that "everybody wants to see" where "everybody" equals generously 80,000 to 130,000 Bangkokian sheep and demagogue leaders.

"During the election times, the Democrat Party would not campaign against Thaksin regime because a lot of people step over it. My party would hold a political reform forum for creating the future of Thailand that everybody want to see,"

And be sure to keep attempting to block the Feb 2 election as a clear reminder of what a "political reform forum" might look like under your band of demagogues.

If Pheu Thai is the only one with a clue about how to run a country then Thailand is seriously stuffed. Pheu Thai successfully run a country...you are taking the p!ss aren't you, or stoned, drunk or a combination of the lot?

[Dasekel]

Sadly enough after listening to the neo-facist Sutheps rants over the last couple of weeks, PTP seems like a not so bad alternative anymore!!

I know, they are rotten to the core and corrupt beyond believe, but the lesser of the two evils!

u may be right, but perhaps they will be a bit more cautious in the future, and tow the line in an orderly manner.

Yeah, I am also "dreaming of a white Christmas" in Thailand

[icare999]

my wish for Xmas that Thailand rids itself once and for all of Taksin his clan and cronies and then Thailand can progress

[gerry1011]

After witnessing all the insanity of Suthep's protests, the way the Dems support the overthrowing of Democracy and the irrationality of the "educated" people of Bangkok... the best thing that can happen to this country is to have the Thaksin "regime" come back after the elections.

After all, this is what the majority of Thais vote for anyway.

[Dasekel]

After witnessing all the insanity of Suthep's protests, the way the Dems support the overthrowing of Democracy and the irrationality of the "educated" people of Bangkok... the best thing that can happen to this country is to have the Thaksin "regime" come back after the elections. After all, this is what the majority of Thais vote for anyway.

Oh my godness Gerry, I don't know which country you are from, but reading your post I wish you will get a government like the Shinawatra clan! This is not only black and/or white. Of course, ST is a mad nut, even though he might have had the right reasons to start the current movement, he surely is not bright enough (or better wise enough) to know that his way of confrontation will just produce the same problem from the other side. There are shades of gray and what is needed to leave the position of "it is either my way or the highway". As long as both sides insist on having it their way, things will get much worse. Unfortunately, there is no trust left. If one side says we need to compromise, the other side will immediately suspect a lie.

And by the way, majority vote does not give their representatives free hand to rob the country blind and to steamroll anything they want through. A government is not elected to represent only their voters, but I guess that is too much to understand and to ask for, is it?

[Puccini]

Thaksin Regime to return after election: Thai Democrat

This is exactly what the Democrat Party wants to achieve with its "boycott" of the election. Based on Suthep's estimate of the support for his group, the Democrats could easily win a large majority in parliament:

Suthep said on stage that for every person on the street, there are 10 more at home supporting him. 6 million x 10 = 60,000,000 people supporting Suthep.

Source: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/691311-pdrc-claims-6-million-people-in-bangkok-turn-out-to-protest-yesterday/?view=findpost&p=7197921

[oldsailor35]

Don't even give them (PTP) a chance at the election - they will buy their way in as they've done it before!

The Democrat people paid my wife's family last time and they voted for Yingluk.

So the PTP paid more....

If this is the fact, then this proves the point that the Non-Democratic voters are quite able to think for themselves and even "put one over" the Dems

[oldsailor35]

Suthep's crusade is to rid Thai politics of the Shinawatra influence.

Yingluck dissolves parliament and protests continue.

Now it is announced Yingluck is No.1 on PTP list but also we have Somchai Wongsawat husband of Yaowappa Wongsawat,Thaksin's sister and Surapong Tovichaichakul, Thaksin's cousin in law.

So it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming days. Looks like business as usual.

1. Thaksin - runs government by proxy and Skype.

2. Yingluck - P.M. under Thaksin

3. Somchai Wongsawat

4. Surapong Tovichaichakul.

5. Yaowappa Wongsawat

Happy Families. I think the Shinawats are giving Suthep the big middle finger. What happens next is anyone's guess.

No! Sutheps crusade is to cover his own ass, he knows its his only chance to beat the charges against him. If he had other motives, why did'nt he wait until the Tourist High Season was over. It was the date of 20th that had him worried.

[oldsailor35]

Sadly enough after listening to the neo-facist Sutheps rants over the last couple of weeks, PTP seems like a not so bad alternative anymore!!

I know, they are rotten to the core and corrupt beyond believe, but the lesser of the two evils!

doesn't it get boring to write "fascist" in every posting, without ever give a reason?

Just repeat it often enough in the hope something will keep sticking....

Fascism is this: one faction trying to seize power without regard for the majority or the bulk of the population.

Fascism is not only applicable to ruthless crimes and pogroms (although historically they fall in that category) but to the one faction (in this case Suthep and company) trying to overrule democratic institutions, the Constitution or the the will of elected officials. Do you believe that Suthep will retire from politics, as he claimed? Why is an old politico who was caught red handed when Minister of Agriculture and resigned not to be indicted, why is he bent of seizing power, allegedly, for the "people". What people? His people? What is his chief motivation? Not altruistic for sure.

Vote buying goes on from both sides. The money is spent by Democrats and PTPs on people who would vote anyway for those parties of their allegiance. Spare us the same litany about Paymaster, the puppet Master in Dubai.

Democrats, at this point in time of Thai history are the worst of all evils.

"Caught redhanded" please explain this ?

[ianf]

After witnessing all the insanity of Suthep's protests, the way the Dems support the overthrowing of Democracy and the irrationality of the "educated" people of Bangkok... the best thing that can happen to this country is to have the Thaksin "regime" come back after the elections. After all, this is what the majority of Thais vote for anyway.

Good Lawd! Another poster with his head buried in the sand.

[moradave]

Don't even give them (PTP) a chance at the election - they will buy their way in as they've done it before!

The Democrat people paid my wife's family last time and they voted for Yingluk.

So the PTP paid more....

Which shows that a voter doesn't need to sell to the highest bidder. He or she can sell to ALL the bidders. However, this does help to get out the vote which is not a bad thing. Obama used the same tactic by offering free transport to and from the polling place and maybe a free hamburger at McDonalds.

[siampolee]

ineu post # 83

Whatawonderfulday, learned a new word (but it is spelled with an "S" = Fascist) and try to use it now as often as possible? You left out many other opportunities to use it in the context of the Fascists/TS/red shirts/scumbags at every point you made above.

Note I clipped the post for the relevant part

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com

Fascists - Old vs. New

Fascism has its advantages, but it's not very compatible with birthday parties.

editOld School Fascists

• Would assault political enemies, sometimes forcibly feeding them castor oil to symbolically "purge" the opposition and to humiliate the individual in question.
• Imprisoned and tortured those who disagreed with fascist doctrine.
• Continously invaded Ethiopia, Libya, Albania and Greece. They tried to invade Greece a lot, but eventually had to get a bigger, badder Fascist friend to help.
• Made deals with the Nazis, plotting to conquer the world.
• Co-erced and controlled business's and unions alike.
• Ruthlessly censored all forms of the media.
• Rebuilt whole societies on a foundation of fear and intimidation.
• Adopted a semi-official uniform of black shirts (or brown or red where black was too expensive).

edit"New School" Fascists

• Yell at you for not flushing the toilet when you're finished.
• Expect two forms of ID, at least one of which bearing a picture.
• Fire you from work for browsing porno and/or Uncyclopedia all day.
• Put you on hold, then have the nerve to say that your call is important.
• Shush you at the movies.
• Hassle you when you take your time ordering at McDonald's.
• Give you a parking ticket.
• Ban you from Uncyclopedia or any other Wiki after you've vandalized 20 articles.
• Don't even listen to your side of the story.
• Are even slightly to your right politically, (Note that those to your political left are always Communists).
• Conservapedia
• They are members of the Republican Party.
• Adopted a uniform of any damned thing they want except Iron Maiden T-shirts
• Tell you to stop running in the corridors

In recent years, the marauding bands of fascists, communists, Nazis, and Socialists responsible for these and other outrages have largely vanished, and recent statistics show that over 74% of such irritations are now caused by terrorists.

editAlternative meanings

On Wikipedia, a fascist is somebody who reverts the Article on Fascism. They commonly meet in the fascist discussion board Talk:Facism, where they plan edits to the article using political models with as few dimensions as possible. Anonymous users then serve their purpose by vandalizing the article, a pattern that is not uncommon on Wikipedia.

editEtymological Roots

From the Latin word "fascis," meaning "a bundle of sticks came the word "fascism," a collectivist ideology. From that same latin word came the word "faggot," a word originally meaning "a bundle of sticks," but now used to refer to a male homosexual. What does that tell you about fascists?

Edited December 24, 2013 by siampolee

[kaobang]

minority can change what they dont like with the use of violence or intimidation,is this democratic?

shut the thep up

look what happened in cambodia when thousands protested and the pm said he does not give a .. protesters better go home or go to jail instead

Yingluck set new elections dissolved the house she did a lot.its so funny how suthep claiming "power to the people" and then is against elections,when people expresses their will

Edited December 24, 2013 by kaobang

[Dasekel]

minority can change what they dont like with the use of violence or intimidation,is this democratic?

shut the thep up

look what happened in cambodia when thousands protested and the pm said he does not give a .. protesters better go home or go to jail instead

Yingluck set new elections dissolved the house she did a lot.its so funny how suthep claiming "power to the people" and then is against elections,when people expresses their will

minority can change what they dont like with the use of violence or intimidation,is this democratic?

Of course not and the same applies for the majority. So, what is your point?

look what happened in cambodia when thousands protested and the pm said he does not give a .. protesters better go home or go to jail instead

Good point, except this is exactly what the PTP government in Thailand is doing right now.

Yingluck set new elections dissolved the house she did a lot.

Did you see the list of top candidates for the PTP? This is a slap in the face of all those fed up with the Thaksinistra Dynasty and their corruption. Talking about reconciliation and then having Tarit suing anybody who dares to protest and freeze assets of anybody who supports the protests ? Promising reform and then producing this list? Nobody will believe that Yingluck is serious about reconciliation or reform.

And MOST Importantly: A democratically elected Government is not only tasked and appointed to work for their own benefits and (to a much lesser degree) for their voters. The government has to work for ALL, including those who did not vote for them!!! Why is that so difficult to understand?

[kaobang]

minority can change what they dont like with the use of violence or intimidation,is this democratic?

shut the thep up

look what happened in cambodia when thousands protested and the pm said he does not give a .. protesters better go home or go to jail instead

Yingluck set new elections dissolved the house she did a lot.its so funny how suthep claiming "power to the people" and then is against elections,when people expresses their will

minority can change what they dont like with the use of violence or intimidation,is this democratic?

Of course not and the same applies for the majority. So, what is your point?

look what happened in cambodia when thousands protested and the pm said he does not give a .. protesters better go home or go to jail instead

Good point, except this is exactly what the PTP government in Thailand is doing right now.

Yingluck set new elections dissolved the house she did a lot.

Did you see the list of top candidates for the PTP? This is a slap in the face of all those fed up with the Thaksinistra Dynasty and their corruption. Talking about reconciliation and then having Tarit suing anybody who dares to protest and freeze assets of anybody who supports the protests ? Promising reform and then producing this list? Nobody will believe that Yingluck is serious about reconciliation or reform.

And MOST Importantly: A democratically elected Government is not only tasked and appointed to work for their own benefits and (to a much lesser degree) for their voters. The government has to work for ALL, including those who did not vote for them!!! Why is that so difficult to understand?

come on the democrat party does not win elections from 20 years and right now Suthep is just ignoring all thais who support the government or calls them brainwashed.what do u think he will do if he gets the power

you are right when you state that majority can not oppress minority,but even more minority can not oppress majority...who so afraid of elections?

Edited December 24, 2013 by kaobang

[Dasekel]

come on the democrat party does not win elections from 20 years and right now Suthep is just ignoring all thais who support the government or calls them brainwashed.what do u think he will do if he gets the power

you are right when you state that majority can not oppress minority,but even more minority can not oppress majority...who so afraid of elections?

I am not proposing that ST should get in power. I do not even think that the Democrats would be the right choice. They have totally wasted their chances to change things in Thailand when they were handed the government on a silver tablet and they are hated so much by the red shirts that the problems would just go on.

What is needed is to form a multisectoral committee (while elections still have to go ahead due to the formal requirements and PTP will of course win) to work out a proposal on how reconciliation can be achieved in a way that can be accepted by the majority of the voters (red shirts) and the minority (yellow or whatever colour shirts, except for black ones, who will fight on no matter what).

For this to happen both sides have to make serious compromises, but that is where the problem lies. I fear nobody is willing to compromise and therfore they are ALL guilty of letting the Thai people down for their own power interests and creating problems for this lovely country that have not been seen for decades.

Shame on all of you politicians PTP, Democrats and all the other parties. You have become a cancer for the country.

[KarenBravo]

All you pseudo-reds and yellows on this thread are hilarious.

You have no vote. You have no influence. You are foreigners and thus intrinsically inferior to Thais (that's something both sides would agree on).

Both parties are corrupt. Both parties are fighting to get their snouts back into the trough.

This is not a democratic country, it is run by paternalism, cronyism, nepotism and the purchase of favours.

From where I sit, the Thais have got the government that they deserved every time, and they will again.

[ianf]

All you pseudo-reds and yellows on this thread are hilarious.

You have no vote. You have no influence. You are foreigners and thus intrinsically inferior to Thais (that's something both sides would agree on).

Both parties are corrupt. Both parties are fighting to get their snouts back into the trough.

This is not a democratic country, it is run by paternalism, cronyism, nepotism and the purchase of favours.

From where I sit, the Thais have got the government that they deserved every time, and they will again.

Do you know why I post here? OK, I can't influence macro politics but hopefully we can all stand up for fairness and human rights wherever these are wronged across the world. Because we live here in Thailand, we do have a stake in what happens. It affects our wives and families, the value of our currency, how society works and so on. I didn't come here with my eyes and ears closed, neither is my mouth. I have fought for fairness and decency and human rights for 50 years and just because I live here now doesn't mean I have to give up on my principles. It's also interesting to me how some posters here simply just don't get it and appear to have no understanding of how dictatorships take their toll on a country, how democracy is so easily abused, how easily manipulated the masses are ..... well if they were not then we would not have seen the rise of Hitler, Mussolini, Saddam, Marcos, Amin, Thaksin, Pol Pot and on and on and on ....... Each time these tyrants take control what happens? People's human rights are thrown away, the poor suffer and the sycophants suck up ensuring the continuation of these evil anti-human regimes. You know what? They only exist to a) ensure the power and wealth of the particular tyrant in charge and ( satisfy their own distorted sexuality. So yes, it is worth posting here and trying to convince the Thaksin lovers just how out of line they are and how much they do not understand the lessons of history. They remind me of the people who still supported Mussolini even though their fellow human beings were starving and suffering.

Edited December 24, 2013 by ianf

[metisdead]

Inflammatory posts and replies have been removed.

[KarenBravo]

Sorry, but convincing "Thaksin Lovers" on here achieves absolutely nothing as they, like you have no vote, no influence. It's a bit like rearranging the deck-chairs on the Titanic. You are arguing to replace one bunch of corrupt pigs with another set of corrupt pigs. Don't you see how absurd that is? Even more absurd when you are totally powerless to influence, or affect the outcome. It's all just digital hot-air.

What I find most amusing is the depth of feeling. I imagine the frothings at the mouth and the spittle covered computer screens and inwardly chuckle.

[gerry1011]

Sorry, but convincing "Thaksin Lovers" on here achieves absolutely nothing as they, like you have no vote, no influence. It's a bit like rearranging the deck-chairs on the Titanic. You are arguing to replace one bunch of corrupt pigs with another set of corrupt pigs. Don't you see how absurd that is? Even more absurd when you are totally powerless to influence, or affect the outcome. It's all just digital hot-air.

What I find most amusing is the depth of feeling. I imagine the frothings at the mouth and the spittle covered computer screens and inwardly chuckle.

Personally I find the reactions to my posts rather amusing too. That's why I come back to this forum on a regular basis

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[hellodolly]

Personally I would not be so assured that the public in general would be over enamored by a new Thaksin regime ( Dictatorship) let alone alone other groups or organisations.

The next administration is going to be facing an economic and political tsunami which will overwhelm them and Thailand and its peoples. A Thaksin P.T.P. regime ( Dictatorship) will indeed be partaking of a political euthanasia if they take power.

One is led to wonder what size and capacity the World Bank and the I.M.F. lifeboats are going to have to be to save Thailand and its peoples from the upcoming disaster.,

No doubt the first load of survivors in the lifeboats will be Thaksin and the P.T.P. with their financial and property Mae Wests and lifebelts

The women and children i.e. Thailand and its peoples will be left to await their rescue and survive as best they can on cork floats and basic necessity life rafts along with the bill for the rescue services too.

1997 action replay coming to you soon.

Maybe the Democrats are doing the smart thing. there is an outside chance they could be the next ruling party and with the mess the PTP has created ready to tumble down like a house built out of cards no matter who gets in they can stay blameless. The PTP can take the public scorn.

The Democrats can sit on the side lines and point out all the failures loud enough for a red shirt to hear them.

On the other hand the Baht will definatly fall and foreigners will have a lot more spending money. While I will enjoy the additional money I regret that the people will have to suffer for it.