Ayahuasca Treatment, Retreat, etc.

[sunsandsurf]

Are ayahuasca treatments available in Thailand at a retreat or perhaps by a visiting shaman?

[krisb]

Probably considered an illegal drug in Thailand.

[wym]

therefore not discussed here

wrong part of the world I'd think for anything genuine

ask at the FMP

[infinity11]

FMP? Police?

There MAY be other ways to access this plan of existence without DMT.

I dont know much about this at all but it's all over FB.

Lick a frog?

I DID google it and that should keep you very busy.

[Kitsune]

Here approach to drugs is still "Reaganian" ie drug consumption is a crime, drug addicts are criminals, no pity, no mercy, no helping them, no treatment, just punishment /prison or death penalty, even more so amongst Buddhist communities / temples.

Edited February 10, 2014 by Kitsune

[wym]

FMP?

Full Moon Party on Ko Pah Ngan, New Age and druggie central for the region.

Also the colon-cleansing folks in the various islands, Samui for a start.

But suspect anything you'd find here would be far from an authentic spiritual experience.

[lesblane]

https://www.google.co.th/?gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=6XCjU7mkH5K9ugSDvYK4Cg#q=ibogaine+thailand

Ibogaine therapy is available in Thailand. Check out what Joe Roggan and Graham Hancock have to say on youtube. Both have been claimed effective in treating addiction habits. I think Graham Hancock stated that Ayahuasca sends you out into the universe, whereas Ibogaine send you into yourself. As the Thais would say, "Same same, but different....

[Rooo]

moved to health.

[AyG]

Here approach to drugs is still "Reaganian" ie drug consumption is a crime, drug addicts are criminals, no pity, no mercy, no helping them, no treatment, just punishment /prison or death penalty, even more so amongst Buddhist communities / temples.

That is one of the most ill informed comments I've seen here in a long time.

Yes, illegal drug consumption is a crime, as it is in pretty much every country in the world, ergo drug addicts are criminals. However, there is mercy and there is treatment. Addicts who are caught with drugs are offered the option of not being prosecuted if they voluntarily engage in treatment for an agreed period (typically 15-90 days). In the year 2011/2012 half a million addicts undertook such treatment.

The government also provides free treatment for drug addicts at specialised government hospitals, including the Northern Drug Dependence Treatment Center (Chiang Mai), Khon Kaen Drug Dependence Treatment Center, Mae Hong Son Drug Dependence Treatment Center, Pattani Drug Dependence Treatment Center, Songkhla Drug Dependence Treatment Center, Udon Thani Drug Dependence Treatment Center and the renouned Thanyarak Institute in Bangkok.

As for the attitude of Buddhists, Thamkrabok Temple runs one of the most famous drug treatment centres in the world. Again, treatment is free for Thais.

[CobraSnakeNecktie]

Ayuhusca or DMT is difficult chemical to control because everyone produces it in their body and it's literally in every living thing.

It can be extracted from many plants such as grass clippings. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml

It can't be tested to see if someone has taken it recently.

The Ayuhusca vine tea taken with a MAO inhibiter takes some hours to clear while DMT is fast acting and short effect.

It's fascinating subject and DMT has been called the "Spirit Molecule".

Documentary. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1340425/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine

One theory is that meditation increases endogenous production of DMT to facilitate conscious exploration.

Interview with Dr. Rick Strassman who is UNM DMT researcher.

The Shaman or guide is a big part of the experience so probably best to save your bahts to visit Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia for the best results.

[Sheryl]

DMT is a Category 1 controlled psychotropic substance in Thailand:

"Import/export/possession strictly prohibited without permission from the MOPH".

[jackspade]

Yes, there are fully legal treatment centers offering ayahuasca treatment in Thailand.

[jackspade]

Ayuhusca or DMT is difficult chemical to control because everyone produces it in their body and it's literally in every living thing.

It can be extracted from many plants such as grass clippings. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml

It can't be tested to see if someone has taken it recently.

The Ayuhusca vine tea taken with a MAO inhibiter takes some hours to clear while DMT is fast acting and short effect.

The Shaman or guide is a big part of the experience so probably best to save your bahts to visit Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia for the best results.

Ayahuasca and DMT are not the same thing. DMT is a component of ayahuasca. DMT is present in all living things, but ayahuasca is a combination of two or more plants, one of which contains DMT.

[CobraSnakeNecktie]

Yes, there are fully legal treatment centers offering ayahuasca treatment in Thailand.

I just read this

Where?

[Aussieroaming]

The only two South American country's where this is still legal is Peru and Brazil..it was deemed illegal in the Netherlands but the government was taken to court by a religious group and this law was overturned if the drug was administered as part of a religious ceremony.

From what I understand it's a drug that you would want to do under some reasonable supervision i.e. A Shaman similar.

Anyway unless country's have changed their stance that's the last stance I heard.

[music065]

There's also at least 2 churches that have been allowed to use it for ceremonies in the USA as a result of court decisions. 

[gamesgplayemail]

anybody found it in thailand now ?

[Sheryl]

Still mor legal here.