Popular Post casualbiker Posted February 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Pipkins wrote : " Hmm Now where was thaksin in 1997? Who was in power of the country that set off the Whole asian financial crisis and almost broke the back of the country? Lucky he came along or we would still be very much third world status." Well he was deputy Prime Minister in that government that brought Thailand to it's knees. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra And made most of his money in the devastation that followed! Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited February 10, 2014 by casualbiker 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Top bloke, did more for Thailand than anyone ever. Examples please, or is it satire? Sorry you seem to be getting short changed with your Bluesky subscription. Try a little googling or try listening to people who know more about the country and it's history than you do. Social Order policy Opened the airport at Swampy after 40 years of Elite/Dem corruption Healthcare for all Education extended One Tambon One free Uni Place in effect. Student placements and expansion of University system OTOP war on Drugs really lowered the amount on the street and now almost everybody just misquotes the figures. The policy was a success. PS, read the section on that and see who praised him for it!!!! Lowered Debt, balanced budgets After facing fiscal deficits in 2001 and 2002, Thaksin balanced the national budget, producing comfortable fiscal surpluses for 2003 to 2005. Despite a massive program of infrastructure investments, a balanced budget was projected for 2007 Income in the Northeast, the poorest part of the country, rose by 46% from 2001 to 2006.[62] Nationwide poverty fell from 21.3% to 11.3% Thaksin's economic policies helped Thailand recover from the 1997 Asian financial crisis and substantially reduce poverty. GDP grew from 4.9 trillion baht in 2001 to 7.1 trillion baht in 2006. Thailand repaid its debts to the International Monetary Fund two years ahead of schedule. Hmm Now where was thaksin in 1997? Who was in power of the country that set off the Whole asian financial crisis and almost broke the back of the country? Lucky he came along or we would still be very much third world status. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra#Economic_Policies Strange that people who have not lived in Thailand for very long, don't know anything at all about him.. Other than what they hear in a bar or go-go bar where the social order policy affected the trading in women. Bars are the only place in Bangkok that I really hear open critisism of him. I don't hear it at schools as part of my work, not from teachers or parents. Just the bar folk supporting him now So just the bar folk supporting Taksin now. OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 11 million voted for the Democrats in 2011, meanwhile the support for Pheua Thai under Yingluck has dropped to less than 10 million. The Shinawats are panicking because they have no replacement after Yingluck, no one with an attractive personality, it's so hard being a party totally run by one family, so few choices for PM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ameadi Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Dubai man is avoiding 2 years jail. Think why isn't coming back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikurauni Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If Thaksin stops controlling his puppets and moves away from the politics completely for good, the bad karna will be disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 A number of nonsense baiting posts and replies have been removed. Other "off topic" posts and replies were removed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Pipkins wrote : " Hmm Now where was thaksin in 1997? Who was in power of the country that set off the Whole asian financial crisis and almost broke the back of the country? Lucky he came along or we would still be very much third world status." Well he was deputy Prime Minister in that government that brought Thailand to it's knees. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra And made most of his money in the devastation that followed! Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app And I remember that Chavalit spent 35 million Baht on his election campaign in 1996, after he was elected he openly announced to the international press, Herald Tribune, if I can stay in power for 6 months I'm more than happy. Six months after that announcement the Baht floated, but not after Thaksin had transported wooden crates full of US$ out of the country. Edit : I need to correct, an estimated 10 Billion Baht was spent on that election, 30 Million baht was spent on vote buying only. http://books.google.co.th/books?id=X6afM-cAR2sC&pg=PA171&lpg=PA171&dq=money+chavalit+spent+on+1996+election&source=bl&ots=ZOqSE7Na-K&sig=0dQWXRx7aCCoItvHj-xKCapoacA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=m-T4Uo3vNJHjrAexk4GYDw&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=money%20chavalit%20spent%20on%201996%20election&f=false Edited February 10, 2014 by JesseFrank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted February 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Appreciate the comment Shannon. It highlights that demagoguery is a major key to the regime's success. Projection. Demagoguery relies on condemning the outgroup for what the ingroup is doing. This step is absolutely necessary for scapegoating (that is, for holding some group responsible for the ingroup’s problems) The PTP's flag ship policy was the rice scheme. It has lost billions, the PM is being investigated for corruption, 15 ministers have been charged and the true litmus test of this failure is the people that it was supposed to help are now protesting a non payment by the PTP. What do demagogues do? They blame the "out group" Bad behavior on the part of in-groups (PTP) is explained externally (The non payment is justified as they were forced into it by the PDRC) and is dismissed as meaningless; bad behavior on the part of out group members (shutting down government ministries), however, signifies their true identity. Good behavior on the part of in-group members (PTP pleading for time to allow payments to be made) signifies their true identity, and good behavior on the part of out group members (DEMS or PDRC offering money to farmers to help there cause in pursuing payment) is explained by external characteristics or bad motives. i.e "There not helping the farmers, they are doing this to make the PTP look bad" Thaksin does need to be praised. Praised for being one of the most successful demagogues in history. I notice you called them a "silly bunch". This exemplifies what a demagogue does. Demonize and belittle an opposition for offering facts and balance and asking for answers which is a democratic right. A bit like a deputy PM that called voters garbage for asking for an explanation regarding the water management scheme. Like I said previously, before you know it your defending a regime that is dictatorial and is hiding under the guise of a democracy. "Silly bunch", "garbage"…..All words used by dictators to describe opposition. Those words are the start of a journey to a dictatorial end. The end is when there is no opposition left. Be careful what you wish for Shannon. Edited February 10, 2014 by djjamie 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted February 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2014 So the police are associating with a wanted criminal, just goes to show how bad the thai police really are, they all have brown rings on their ankles like the ptp politicians and our own group of thaksin lovers, they will be all besides themselves over this, pathetic. The day this man dies will be worthy of a huge celebration, even more so if he can take all of his family with him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Misterwhisper Posted February 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2014 I am convinced he creates his bad karma all by himself through his constant meddling, ceaseless interfering, boundless greed, and being on an eternal ego trip. Hence, he also is the only one who has the power to rectify and correct his bad karma, i.e. by finally staying out of it all and changing his ways. I just don't see it happen anytime soon, if ever. No Buddha, no spirits, no merit-making whatsoever can remedy what he alone has brought upon himself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I can think of no one more who deserves to be reincarnated ...... as a flea on an elephants behind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I can think of no one more who deserves to be reincarnated ...... as a flea on an elephants behind i already feel sorry for the elephant! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBobThai Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Would not it be sweet if Yingluck and brother were treated to the same ending as Ceaușescu and his wife, Elena. Quick and to the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickcyclist Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Is there anybody out there that can rebut the Pipkins input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LuckyLew Posted February 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2014 Top bloke, did more for Thailand than anyone ever. Examples please, or is it satire? Sorry you seem to be getting short changed with your Bluesky subscription. Try a little googling or try listening to people who know more about the country and it's history than you do. Social Order policy Opened the airport at Swampy after 40 years of Elite/Dem corruption Healthcare for all Education extended One Tambon One free Uni Place in effect. Student placements and expansion of University system OTOP war on Drugs really lowered the amount on the street and now almost everybody just misquotes the figures. The policy was a success. PS, read the section on that and see who praised him for it!!!! Lowered Debt, balanced budgets After facing fiscal deficits in 2001 and 2002, Thaksin balanced the national budget, producing comfortable fiscal surpluses for 2003 to 2005. Despite a massive program of infrastructure investments, a balanced budget was projected for 2007 Income in the Northeast, the poorest part of the country, rose by 46% from 2001 to 2006.[62] Nationwide poverty fell from 21.3% to 11.3% Thaksin's economic policies helped Thailand recover from the 1997 Asian financial crisis and substantially reduce poverty. GDP grew from 4.9 trillion baht in 2001 to 7.1 trillion baht in 2006. Thailand repaid its debts to the International Monetary Fund two years ahead of schedule. Hmm Now where was thaksin in 1997? Who was in power of the country that set off the Whole asian financial crisis and almost broke the back of the country? Lucky he came along or we would still be very much third world status. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra#Economic_Policies Strange that people who have not lived in Thailand for very long, don't know anything at all about him.. Other than what they hear in a bar or go-go bar where the social order policy affected the trading in women. Bars are the only place in Bangkok that I really hear open critisism of him. I don't hear it at schools as part of my work, not from teachers or parents. Just the bar folk supporting him now His war on drugs policy is tantamount to crimes against humanity, over 2000 people murdered on with this great policy, no trial ... just said to be guilty and not it has not lowered the drug availability in Thailand. So Thaksin ok'd thousands to be killed all because his son decided to get high. For this Thaksin deserves to be sent to the Hague. You neglected to comment on his policies in the South, how many people died during his watch? how many people died at the Thai Bek? more crimes against humanity How many billion did he pilfer from the Thai coffers? Your man is a convicted felon one the run Yes he might have helped certain regions up north by giving them a few extra dollars to spend but at what cost, his crimes and thievery far out weight that. He wanted to not only rule Thailand but he decided it was his right to play God 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealth Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) looks like the Cambodian witchcraft doctors couldn't work it out for him and now he's trying this. although he go lots of control over Buriram(could be Surin, - correct me on this) or so which is Khmer speaking. Edited February 10, 2014 by wealth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namatjira Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Many Thais tell me Thaksin will be reincarnated as a buffalo.....no lower to go they say. Thaksin Kwai.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holeyman1 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I have in-laws who used to sell drugs, all small timers. During the time of taksin's war on drugs, they practically turned over a new leaf overnight. What a bloody blessing, else they would either have O.D'ed or got shot by rival dealers. I've seen 1st hand, what drugs can do to a person. Life here is cheap. Druggies will kill for a mere 20bht to score a high. Imagine that! 20bht! Bet my last baht, every single one of you are worth billions if not trillions. Insurgency in the south? Many will have to read up on south's history before judging. His way of dealing things is nothing short of a territorial dispute. I bet we've read up on be-headings of teachers and the likes here on TV. Now who's executing crimes on humanity? (Excuse the pun) Reported or not, any country waging war have all see some form of collateral damage.. It's inevitable. It's a necessity in winning a war. Same sh*t, different day. Ps I side neither color, am simply a spectator in the stands giving his one satang worth! Pps I don't condone the raping of a nation to benefit oneself. somtam palah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post englishoak Posted February 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2014 So the police are associating with a wanted criminal, just goes to show how bad the thai police really are, they all have brown rings on their ankles like the ptp politicians and our own group of thaksin lovers, they will be all besides themselves over this, pathetic. The day this man dies will be worthy of a huge celebration, even more so if he can take all of his family with him. Such an educated and thoughtful statement ... How far would you like the gene pool eradication to go ? children maybe extend it to brothers sisters, cousins ? nephews ? nieces their etc as well ? Im not even sure Suthep wishes that being its just 2 year jail term hes avoiding, but congratulations in taking the time to highlight such a well thought out sentiment and solution ..... pathetic for sure ill agree with that 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post casualbiker Posted February 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2014 So the police are associating with a wanted criminal, just goes to show how bad the thai police really are, they all have brown rings on their ankles like the ptp politicians and our own group of thaksin lovers, they will be all besides themselves over this, pathetic. The day this man dies will be worthy of a huge celebration, even more so if he can take all of his family with him. Such an educated and thoughtful statement ... How far would you like the gene pool eradication to go ? children maybe extend it to brothers sisters, cousins ? nephews ? nieces their etc as well ? Im not even sure Suthep wishes that being its just 2 year jail term hes avoiding, but congratulations in taking the time to highlight such a well thought out sentiment and solution ..... pathetic for sure ill agree with that Thaksin is NOT just avoiding a two year jail term. As I think you already know there are several pending cases with his name on them! Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 And then he had tea with Aung San Suu Kyi. Which was nice. Sure ! it is there right also and real people fighting for democracy have to join... The majority of foreign governments do not follow Suthep, but yes...... the followers and sure the "farang" lovers of suthep believe they know better than the majority . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So the police are associating with a wanted criminal, just goes to show how bad the thai police really are, they all have brown rings on their ankles like the ptp politicians and our own group of thaksin lovers, they will be all besides themselves over this, pathetic. The day this man dies will be worthy of a huge celebration, even more so if he can take all of his family with him. Such an educated and thoughtful statement ... How far would you like the gene pool eradication to go ? children maybe extend it to brothers sisters, cousins ? nephews ? nieces their etc as well ? Im not even sure Suthep wishes that being its just 2 year jail term hes avoiding, but congratulations in taking the time to highlight such a well thought out sentiment and solution ..... pathetic for sure ill agree with that Thaksin is NOT just avoiding a two year jail term. As I think you already know there are several pending cases with his name on them! Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Such as charges or something worthy of the death penalty as wished for by the above ? please list them do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Merit making, not enough days left in his natural life to make up for what he has done to Thailand and its people. He never learns. He tried it before the courts sentenced him to two years in jail. He was in Chiang Mai making merit by visiting 99 Wat's in three days. Maybe it worked it got him to Dubai. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Is there anybody out there that can rebut the Pipkins input? no need to, its all innuendo and twisted crap, he leaves out all the killings/murders he did, all the corruption he was responsible for and that the judge only let him off because he was pm, the man is a criminal and anyone trying to say otherwise does this far too much and is full of **** Edited February 10, 2014 by seajae 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So the police are associating with a wanted criminal, just goes to show how bad the thai police really are, they all have brown rings on their ankles like the ptp politicians and our own group of thaksin lovers, they will be all besides themselves over this, pathetic. The day this man dies will be worthy of a huge celebration, even more so if he can take all of his family with him. Such an educated and thoughtful statement ... How far would you like the gene pool eradication to go ? children maybe extend it to brothers sisters, cousins ? nephews ? nieces their etc as well ? Im not even sure Suthep wishes that being its just 2 year jail term hes avoiding, but congratulations in taking the time to highlight such a well thought out sentiment and solution ..... pathetic for sure ill agree with that Thaksin is NOT just avoiding a two year jail term. As I think you already know there are several pending cases with his name on them! Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Such as charges or something worthy of the death penalty as wished for by the above ? please list them do. No charges he just changed the law to make it OK for him to order the killing of 2,500 drug suspects even though 1,500 of them were innocent. Guilt but no charges. You obviously don't understand who he is. Your line of thought is what has got Thailand into the trouble it is in now. The current government continues on with what their leaders say's. Buy rice but don't pay for it. Wait until me and my elite high so so's have bought up more land at cheap prices from the poor farmers. Don't worry about me I am fine here in Dubai. The money is continually rolling in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So the police are associating with a wanted criminal, just goes to show how bad the thai police really are, they all have brown rings on their ankles like the ptp politicians and our own group of thaksin lovers, they will be all besides themselves over this, pathetic. The day this man dies will be worthy of a huge celebration, even more so if he can take all of his family with him. Such an educated and thoughtful statement ... How far would you like the gene pool eradication to go ? children maybe extend it to brothers sisters, cousins ? nephews ? nieces their etc as well ? Im not even sure Suthep wishes that being its just 2 year jail term hes avoiding, but congratulations in taking the time to highlight such a well thought out sentiment and solution ..... pathetic for sure ill agree with that Thaksin is NOT just avoiding a two year jail term. As I think you already know there are several pending cases with his name on them! Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Such as charges or something worthy of the death penalty as wished for by the above ? please list them do. you have google, dont be a lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OMGImInPattaya Posted February 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2014 Top bloke, did more for Thailand than anyone ever. Examples please, or is it satire? Sorry you seem to be getting short changed with your Bluesky subscription. Try a little googling or try listening to people who know more about the country and it's history than you do. Social Order policy Opened the airport at Swampy after 40 years of Elite/Dem corruption Healthcare for all Education extended One Tambon One free Uni Place in effect. Student placements and expansion of University system OTOP war on Drugs really lowered the amount on the street and now almost everybody just misquotes the figures. The policy was a success. PS, read the section on that and see who praised him for it!!!! Lowered Debt, balanced budgets After facing fiscal deficits in 2001 and 2002, Thaksin balanced the national budget, producing comfortable fiscal surpluses for 2003 to 2005. Despite a massive program of infrastructure investments, a balanced budget was projected for 2007 Income in the Northeast, the poorest part of the country, rose by 46% from 2001 to 2006.[62] Nationwide poverty fell from 21.3% to 11.3% Thaksin's economic policies helped Thailand recover from the 1997 Asian financial crisis and substantially reduce poverty. GDP grew from 4.9 trillion baht in 2001 to 7.1 trillion baht in 2006. Thailand repaid its debts to the International Monetary Fund two years ahead of schedule. Hmm Now where was thaksin in 1997? Who was in power of the country that set off the Whole asian financial crisis and almost broke the back of the country? Lucky he came along or we would still be very much third world status. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra#Economic_Policies Strange that people who have not lived in Thailand for very long, don't know anything at all about him.. Other than what they hear in a bar or go-go bar where the social order policy affected the trading in women. Bars are the only place in Bangkok that I really hear open critisism of him. I don't hear it at schools as part of my work, not from teachers or parents. Just the bar folk supporting him now And don't forget, providing all that economic growth in issan provided alternative employment opportunities for young women and men. They no longer had to migrate to bangkok to work as maids, gardeners, and drivers. The big-haired khunyings and thampuyings of bangkok have never forgiven him for this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) So the police are associating with a wanted criminal, just goes to show how bad the thai police really are, they all have brown rings on their ankles like the ptp politicians and our own group of thaksin lovers, they will be all besides themselves over this, pathetic. The day this man dies will be worthy of a huge celebration, even more so if he can take all of his family with him. Such an educated and thoughtful statement ... How far would you like the gene pool eradication to go ? children maybe extend it to brothers sisters, cousins ? nephews ? nieces their etc as well ? Im not even sure Suthep wishes that being its just 2 year jail term hes avoiding, but congratulations in taking the time to highlight such a well thought out sentiment and solution ..... pathetic for sure ill agree with that Actually anyone one related to him through blood or marriage would suffice(how many can he fit on his jet), that would satisfy most people apart from those with brown rings around their ankles, they just have to make sure to always wear long socks. Edited February 10, 2014 by seajae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JesseFrank Posted February 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Thaksin's economic policies helped Thailand recover from the 1997 Asian financial crisis and substantially reduce poverty. GDP grew from 4.9 trillion baht in 2001 to 7.1 trillion baht in 2006. Thailand repaid its debts to the International Monetary Fund two years ahead of schedule. Strange that people who have not lived in Thailand for very long, don't know anything at all about him.. Other than what they hear in a bar or go-go bar where the social order policy affected the trading in women. Bars are the only place in Bangkok that I really hear open critisism of him. I don't hear it at schools as part of my work, not from teachers or parents. Just the bar folk supporting him now Yeah sure, because people who stayed in Thailand at that time would know that he repaid the IMF with a loan from Temasek. Edited February 10, 2014 by JesseFrank 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) actually he was probably there so he could pay off his ptp/redshirt/police stooges and promise to hand out bonuses if they can get him back, the man is a coward of the highest order and deserves nothing but shit Edited February 10, 2014 by seajae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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