Garden waste

[Cloggie]

Is there a reason why Thai burn all there garden waste instead of converting into fertile compost?

Somebody told me that Thai burn everything so snakes can't hide, which makes sence...

[loong]

1. They're pyromaniacs

2. Lack of knowledge

3. Most times when the garden waste is raked into piles more than 50% is plastic bags, bottles and other inorganic waste.

4. Compost piles have to be actively managed. If just left to its own devices, composting will be very slow.(usually too wet or too dry)

5. If a pile is left unprotected, local chickens will re-distribute it over the garden.

[soidog2]

So true!

[samuijimmy]

One of the problems is to get a compost going, is that green matter is needed, to get a compost "cooking"... not many Thai's have lawn clippings!

Many leaves are waxy, and don't break down easily either! ... it's a bit of a dilemma, unless one has a shredder !

[Cloggie]

Why not just dig a 'deep' hole and dump everything in it, hole full, make a new one etc. etc. - let nature do the rest.

[loong]

Why not just dig a 'deep' hole and dump everything in it, hole full, make a new one etc. etc. - let nature do the rest.

That could lead to anaerobic conditions and a slimy stinking mess.

Also note in my earlier reply

3. Most times when the garden waste is raked into piles more than 50% is plastic bags, bottles and other inorganic waste.

I really can't see the average Thai sorting the inorganic from the organic waste.

[Packdee]

How to turn garden waste into mushroom.

Gather fallen tree leaves in a pile.

Fill it into a sack.

Weight it.

Mix quick lime 5 grams to 1 liter of water.
(lime 500 grams to water 100 liters)

Dunk the whole bags 4 to 5 hours.

Hang the bag to let water drained.

(to be continued)

[Cloggie]

Will wait for the next post - looks interesting so far.

[Packdee]

soidog2, I could not post to answer you in that thread.

That is bamboo mushroom but it is edible or not I am not sure.

At least we know that the bamboo mushroom can be grown in Burirum.
We were told that this mushroom is poisonous while we import it from China for cooking.

Dr.Anon, my professor, is trying to convince our people that the bamboo tissue in Chinese soup is from this mushroom and we can grow it in Thailand.
http://www.anonbiotec.com/Bamboomushroom.html

[Packdee]

Dry leaves 5.5 kg, after soaking and hanging overnight 12.5 kg.
So the moisture of substrate = [(12.5-5.5)/12.5] x 100 = 56%

That is good for growing milky mushroom. Other mushrooms may need higher water content.

The sack is made of fiber of jute plant.
It is very good source of cellulose so I spawned the sack with milky mushroom grain spawn, rolled and wrapped it with cling film.

On the left, 20 x 30 inches plastic bag filled with lime soaked leaves mixing milky mushroom grain spawn.

On the right, rice sack wrapped with cling film.

[Packdee]

Hi all friends here,

I have some difficulty posting in this forum.
So please follow my post about mushroom cultivation and use POC for Isaan Farmers Meeting No. 10
at my FaceBook : https://www.facebook.com/packdee.tongon With respect to all of you.
Col.Packdee

[Cloggie]

Col Pakdee,

Thanks, we (myself and my girlfriend) will follow you on Facebook.

See that you already accepted my "friend-request"

[Packdee]

Finally we get two flushes of the milky mushroom from garden waste.
The mushrooms will last until March 29 (Isaan Farmers Meeting No.10)

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/702448-isaan-farmers-meeting-no-10-end-of-march-2014/page-4

[teletiger]

Not quite following this Col Packdee. Garden waste is initially in a jute bag for weighing and liming, then is in a plastic bag, (?) then milky mushrooms finally pop up through a straw medium. What happened to the spawned jute bags?

The reason I am so interested is that locally, I can get tons, literally, of leaf substrate. We live in a heavily wooded area and people here, in the dry season, sweep up the leaves and sell them for 3 Baht per large clear plastic bag.

I do follow you on facebook but seem to have missed something somewhere along the line.

Regards.

[Packdee]

Albums "How to turn garden waste into mushrooms" in my FaceBook.
https://www.facebook.com/packdee.tongon/media_set?set=a.738723559485553.1073741855.100000437475390&type=3

I buried tree bags under rice husk and straw to keep the moisture high.

Mycelium in jute bag is still running, it takes longer time to fully colonize. (More nutrient, slower mycelium grows)