Where to buy guns & do I need a permit for my Thai wife?

[impulse]

In my experience most people who are into (air gun) target shooting at a club use pre-charged pneumatics (PCP), which can be quite expensive.

Curiosity, any PCP airgun shops in Bangkok, or any of Thailand?

[Suradit69]

yammorat has the best selection although i heard they recently had banned high power rifles

or rifles with scopes or something because of the risk of snipers shooting people from a good distance away

and being hard to catch

Just looked up that name, "Yammorat" in goggle & came up with nothing other than my post. Be appreciated if you could be more specific.

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"Just looked up that name, "Yammorat" in goggle..."

Probably better to use Google (and maybe "yaowarat").

Good to know such sharp guys as you all will be armed in the near future.

For the rest of us, where can we buy Kevlar vests?

[impulse]

Good to know such sharp guys as you all will be armed in the near future.

For the rest of us, where can we buy Kevlar vests?

From post #11:

GPS N13 44 38.5 x E100 30 22.7 -on weekends, there's about a dozen regular kiosks on the street market every weekend. They have the best selection I have seen, but I suspect they're only there on weekends

In the alley directly away from the Wat at that location, there are a few permanent stores that carry quite a bit of kit, including amp-up parts, soft and hard cases, gillie suits, paintball armor, etc.

Kevlar vests fall under the "etc"

Because I'm sure you're not referring to millions of law abiding citizens around the world as monkeys, are you?

[connda]

yammorat has the best selection although i heard they recently had banned high power rifles

or rifles with scopes or something because of the risk of snipers shooting people from a good distance away

and being hard to catch

Just looked up that name, "Yammorat" in goggle & came up with nothing other than my post. Be appreciated if you could be more specific.

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"Just looked up that name, "Yammorat" in goggle..."

Probably better to use Google (and maybe "yaowarat").

Good to know such sharp guys as you all will be armed in the near future.

For the rest of us, where can we buy Kevlar vests?

555 Man, I love the poster! That's great.

[kimbathewhitelion]

I didn't post a gun debate, I asked a very specific question which I needed help from long standing members & it was answered with just a few posts. Everyone else went forward with changing it into a debate. I suggest you stop being such a "sensitive" person. Forums are there for people to converse whether to acquire specific information or just pass through the boredom.

Besides guns are fun & many don't buy them for home defense but purely as a sport. I myself don't like handguns, only rifles. So if you can't handle it or it makes you too upset, then just ignore the post.

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You got some useful answers but any question about guns brings out some who just want a fight. I wouldn't describe them as 'sensitive'.

Gun clubs may not have rifles to rent but they may have second hand rifles occasionally which, as I suggested previously, you might be able to buy and store there without a licence. I was once offered a second hand 9mm rifle with 'scope at our club where they have a good range for same. I took a few hours to think about it and it was gone!

You may also find a second hand rifle at a gun shop. Second hand guns may be purchased prior to applying for a licence. If you have already joined a club and they have agreed to store a rifle for you, you would be good to go.

Sorry, on an IOS device that doesn't allow sending messages or it maybe TV. In anycase, in particular, where might I seek out this club! How to go about it. I live Udom Suk, bangkok.

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[Morden]

oz893, I don't know Bangkok well enough to help you. Perhaps the gun shops could point you in the right direction or Google might hold some clues.

[crisp]

No longer matters as the wife is opposed to the gun idea, which includes pellet guns. She doesn't get that it's just a simple & very fun adrenaline Sport. And anyone with a Thai wife knows her being upset is no fun - i.e. You might as well be an outcast.

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I had the same problem with my wife being opposed to me having a pistol.

I took a bit of explaining to sway her to my way of thinking, but now she has no problem with us going to the range. Just got to get her to shoot now. we'll see!

[somchaismith]

One only needs a permit for Thai wives which are in the level 2 and upwards danger classification.

[Arkady]

oz893, if you intend to shoot only at a gun club, then you need neither a licence nor a gun of your own. Join a club and rent a gun by the session there.

A permit in your wife's name will not allow you to use her gun. You can apply for your own permit but success may be difficult for a foreigner.

It's very unlikely that either you or your wife could get a carry licence.

Agree completely. To get a permit, your wife will need to supply a very good reason for having it, and purchase a gun that is of a suitable type for purpose. As a foreigner, you have no chance of getting a permit in your name, or to be legally allowed to use the weapon outside of a gun club. Again, you need a very good reason to get a carry license - my wife was able to get that but it took a long time to get all the required approvals. If you are looking for a handgun, try the police - they sometimes sell used weapons (legally) if you (your wife) has a permit.

A foreigner is able to get a gun permit, but my understanding is you need to have permanent residency. My neighbor from Switzerland received a gun permit. He said he had to jump through some hoops. Some gun training, medical exam to make sure he was sane. a letter from a govt official saying he was a stand up guy.took about 1 month. so it is possible. I heard it is easier if you own a company.

Actually, there is nothing in the regulations that requires foreigners to have PR but it helps. You must have a tabien baan and the officers need to be satisfied that you are living in Thailand permanently, if you don't have PR. The manual tells the officers to look at things like how long they have been in Thailand, whether they have Thai or foreign family in Thailand (I presume Thai is better), whether they can speak Thai and, of course, whether they are a threat to national security. I don't think it makes any difference whether you own a company or not but all applicants, Thai and foreign, need to present evidence that they have a job. So, of course, you need a work permit and a company letter confirming your salary.

The manual issued by BORA, which is a part of DOPA which is a part of the Interior Ministry is here in Thai

http://www.bora.dopa.go.th/CallCenTer1548/index.php/menu-general/12-service-handbook/general/39-general-gun.

At this link you can find some information pertaining to foreigners that is more or less a direct translation from the above Thai guidelines.

http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php?topic=2747.15

I have PR and have obtain permits in the past when I believe it was less strict. I am thinking of buying a revolver and will let you guys know how I get on with the application.

[coconutbar]

Theres one in every toilet

[pgrahmm]

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Impulse is now on income equality and wants to it. Try in western countries like USA, Its working a peach there.

In America I own .357 Long barrel Marlin Lever Action, very fun! Can take the head off a deer at a hundred yards. And the great thing about scope-less rifles is you don't have to aim, just point & shoot.


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I find it hard to understand the fun in taking the head off a deer at 100 yards.

Particularly when there is NO skill involved. Just point and shoot.

Must mean you have REALLY BIG BALLS.

I guess.

I also have had a Marlin 357 lever action and it was one of my favorite guns (along with my Dan Wesson 357 side arm)......I'd take both riding the horses in the Sierras as I had 250,000 acres of untamed BLM land directly across from my property. There were some active bears including grizled bears (cross) which from time to time could be very aggressive unfriendly.

The Marlin 357 is a great gun and I would wish to have another - but it's not like the movies where they run shoot and something falls from 100 yeards away. It takes aim and practice. Especially with a carbine as the barrel length is shorter than that of a deer rifle. That's what makes them the ideal saddle gun as well as an all purpose tool/weapon/sporting arm.

If you are going to throw rocks just for the sake of throwing rocks try and represent yourself a little better. He was talking about a favorite gun he had used - you on the other hand seem to enjoy shooting/ your mouth/keyboard and are adding nothing to the discussion.

Edited July 4, 2014 by pgrahmm

[impulse]

but it's not like the movies where they run shoot and something falls from 100 yards away. It takes aim and practice.

I love the westerns where they get 15 shots from a 6 shooter, and it's bang, bang, bang- and 5 more bad guys hit the dust.

Please, please, please don't reopen this can of worms.

[ATF]

I haven't gone through the whole thread so please excuse me if I've double posted.

Best place to buy guns is around the Old Siam Plaza, Wangburapha, BKK. Your wife doesn't need a permit unless she intends to carry the gun in the car with her.

If she did shoot someone at your house then the police always say to give the gun to the permit owner and make sure the permit owner has actually fired the gun to leave powder residue on their hand. They will be tested. A 20 gauge shotgun would be the best home defense weapon for your wife, with 00 or BB shot.

Although she can take a completely unloaded firearm with no ammo to the range by herself with a copy of your permit.

For all the anti gun mob out there guns aren't going away anytime soon but the laws in Thailand are getting stricter all the time and guns are very expensive now.

It has always amazed me why you need a driving test for a car but not a shooting test for a gun, it's the same the World over.

Legal gun owners are usually law abiding, it's illegal gun owners who commit most crimes and it's easy to get illegal guns in Thailand, but owning one comes with very harsh penalties.

[chrisinth]

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I haven't gone through the whole thread so please excuse me if I've double posted.

Best place to buy guns is around the Old Siam Plaza, Wangburapha, BKK. Your wife doesn't need a permit unless she intends to carry the gun in the car with her.

If she did shoot someone at your house then the police always say to give the gun to the permit owner and make sure the permit owner has actually fired the gun to leave powder residue on their hand. They will be tested. A 20 gauge shotgun would be the best home defense weapon for your wife, with 00 or BB shot.

Although she can take a completely unloaded firearm with no ammo to the range by herself with a copy of your permit.

For all the anti gun mob out there guns aren't going away anytime soon but the laws in Thailand are getting stricter all the time and guns are very expensive now.

It has always amazed me why you need a driving test for a car but not a shooting test for a gun, it's the same the World over.

Legal gun owners are usually law abiding, it's illegal gun owners who commit most crimes and it's easy to get illegal guns in Thailand, but owning one comes with very harsh penalties.

Hi ATF, not sure where you got your information from, but I don't think it is correct.

In Thailand, only licensed gun owners may lawfully acquire, possess or transfer a firearm or ammunition.

Whether it be a Thai or a falang.

Edit: There is nothing in the Thai gun laws that state a falang cannot own a gun licence. The additional requirements are that he/she must prove a permanent address (blue or yellow book) and I believe a minimum income of 100K baht (I may be wrong with the actual figures). And of course is mentally sound at the time of application.................

Every weapon will have its own licence and will be required to be submitted to the registrar for marking.

As an aside, be prepared to pay between 80 - 100K baht for the weapon, inclusive of paperwork (licence is 1,00 baht). This is based on a new Glock 19, so obviously prices are very changeable. If you decide to go for second hand, make sure you use a reputable gun shop, the last thing you would need is for the weapon's history to catch up with you if you ever needed to use it for self protection............................

Edited July 5, 2014 by chrisinth

[opalred]

you crazy? let thai girl near a gun there bad enough when a knife is around good luck

[ClutchClark]

Impulse is now on income equality and wants to it. Try in western countries like USA, Its working a peach there.

In America I own .357 Long barrel Marlin Lever Action, very fun! Can take the head off a deer at a hundred yards. And the great thing about scope-less rifles is you don't have to aim, just point & shoot.

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No one going to call BS?

Edited July 5, 2014 by ClutchClark

[slipperylobster]

You are not unlike my friend, who wished to marry a divorce lawyer.

[NeverSure]

Impulse is now on income equality and wants to it. Try in western countries like USA, Its working a peach there.

In America I own .357 Long barrel Marlin Lever Action, very fun! Can take the head off a deer at a hundred yards. And the great thing about scope-less rifles is you don't have to aim, just point & shoot.

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No one going to call BS?

Google point and shoot. I'll do it for you. LINK

It's amazing how instinctive our eyes and bodies can point. You can point your finger right at something.

With practice you can extend that to a firearm and I can outshoot most guys who use the sights without bringing the gun clear up to my eyes. I just look over the top of the slide or barrel. Obviously with this technique I can bring the gun to position and fire a lot more quickly too. I can repeat shots more quickly.

There's nothing to not like about point and shoot aiming. The guy who carefully aims down the sites is taking a lot of time which can make him shakey. The guy who just squeezes the trigger from instinct doesn't have time for that.

Read a little. It's the only way that shooting without a scope from moderate distances should be taught.

[teatree]

Gun people are selfish. Meaning ....yes its a sport for some but involves weapons that are deadly to targets animals and people. Give me one good reason to own a gun. Especially a pistol

To protect your household against a home invasion.

To allow the wife to feel more secure when home alone.

I have never owned a gun but can see the obvious self defence advantage it would bring.

[opalred]

i think all countrys like oz should destroy them i grew up in oz with guns living in the bush for shooting wildlife was the thing to do at that time but regret it now

in that time 3 freinds were accidently killed and knowone should lie as holding a gun makes you feel power theres no wildlife in this country to shoot

to defend against a thai with stick if feel insecure put extra bars on window will make feel in old home country again

[ATF]

Hi ATF, not sure where you got your information from, but I don't think it is correct.

In Thailand, only licensed gun owners may lawfully acquire, possess or transfer a firearm or ammunition.

Whether it be a Thai or a falang.

Edit: There is nothing in the Thai gun laws that state a falang cannot own a gun licence. The additional requirements are that he/she must prove a permanent address (blue or yellow book) and I believe a minimum income of 100K baht (I may be wrong with the actual figures). And of course is mentally sound at the time of application.................

Every weapon will have its own licence and will be required to be submitted to the registrar for marking.

As an aside, be prepared to pay between 80 - 100K baht for the weapon, inclusive of paperwork (licence is 1,00 baht). This is based on a new Glock 19, so obviously prices are very changeable. If you decide to go for second hand, make sure you use a reputable gun shop, the last thing you would need is for the weapon's history to catch up with you if you ever needed to use it for self protection............................

You are totally correct but living as husband and wife the police don't get bothered too much about whose name the license is in except in a car. Falungs can own firearms but most put them in their wife's name. I've never had a problem buying ammo though any shop will sell it.

[luckytrev]

If your wife wears a muzzle you should be exempt from obtaining a permit.

what about a silencer and where do I get one?

[Kudel]

And al the people claiming Thailand is so safe ahummm

Try living a low profile life and buy a few rottweilers ,i hope some of you gun lovers never have any burglars but just in case you shoot one and his family has higher connections than you i think you can shuv al the permits and what little legal rights you have as a foreigner in Thailand up your @rse.

[slipperylobster]

Food for thought.

I had a very good friend, he was just in his early 30's. His father thought it would be great for him to have a gun, as he lived in the Philippines. Well, my friend married a girl (yes a bar girl), and one day she called me to say my friend shot himself. That happened 2 days prior to the call. The father and mom arrived, and no investigation was done. Two days was plenty of time to mop up the area. Also, she claimed his personal computer was stolen (was he trying to contact somebody? I asked how his son was able to purchase a pistol, and the dad said it was a gift..."just an old 38 that was hanging around the house."

Yes, a few people I know were killed by intruders..some for specific reasons, not many random. If you feel insecure, then get a home in a gated community, and by all means, a security dog, alarms, bars, etc. If you feel death by gunfire in your home is imminent, then by all means, purchase a weapon.

Edited July 5, 2014 by slipperylobster

[teatree]

Food for thought.

I had a very good friend, he was just in his early 30's. His father thought it would be great for him to have a gun, as he lived in the Philippines. Well, my friend married a girl (yes a bar girl), and one day she called me to say my friend shot himself. That happened 2 days prior to the call. The father and mom arrived, and no investigation was done. Two days was plenty of time to mop up the area. Also, she claimed his personal computer was stolen (was he trying to contact somebody? I asked how his son was able to purchase a pistol, and the dad said it was a gift..."just an old 38 that was hanging around the house."

Yes, a few people I know were killed by intruders..some for specific reasons, not many random. If you feel insecure, then get a home in a gated community, and by all means, a security dog, alarms, bars, etc. If you feel death by gunfire in your home is imminent, then by all means, purchase a weapon.A responsible owner would have a gun safe/

A responsible owner would have a gun safe.

[ClutchClark]

Impulse is now on income equality and wants to it. Try in western countries like USA, Its working a peach there.

In America I own .357 Long barrel Marlin Lever Action, very fun! Can take the head off a deer at a hundred yards. And the great thing about scope-less rifles is you don't have to aim, just point & shoot.

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No one going to call BS?

Google point and shoot. I'll do it for you. LINK

It's amazing how instinctive our eyes and bodies can point. You can point your finger right at something.

With practice you can extend that to a firearm and I can outshoot most guys who use the sights without bringing the gun clear up to my eyes. I just look over the top of the slide or barrel. Obviously with this technique I can bring the gun to position and fire a lot more quickly too. I can repeat shots more quickly.

There's nothing to not like about point and shoot aiming. The guy who carefully aims down the sites is taking a lot of time which can make him shakey. The guy who just squeezes the trigger from instinct doesn't have time for that.

Read a little. It's the only way that shooting without a scope from moderate distances should be taught.

Yep...you pretty much summed it up with the sentence, "I can repeat shots more quickly" because thats what you will need to be doing if you just start throwing lead at a 100 yards at a deers head.

My freezer is not quite half full of venison, both whitetail and mulie and I've got a recipe for jerked venison thats been in the family for 100 years. I am a responsible hunter and that means I believe in putting an animal down with one shot. Its respect for the animal and it doesn't destroy meat. I use a scope for that reason.

What you are talking about is sport shooting. There is nothing responsible about not aiming at a live animal just so you can go have some fun with the boys and "blow an animals head off" as junior describes.

And what you are hopefully talking about is rapid fire instinctive shooting in range conditions because if junior or you sees a deer at 100 yards and just throws up and starts throwing lead open sight then I guarantee that you have not properly looked at what lies behind your target...such as other hunters.

And when you snap shoot, especially at 100 yards, you have not taken time to see what size rack the animal has and if its even legal. Both important when filling your tag.

So I guess I will be the one to call BS.

Cheers

Edited July 5, 2014 by ClutchClark

[Pundi6446]

yammorat has the best selection although i heard they recently had banned high power rifles

or rifles with scopes or something because of the risk of snipers shooting people from a good distance away

and being hard to catch

Just looked up that name, "Yammorat" in goggle & came up with nothing other than my post. Be appreciated if you could be more specific.

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its bangkoks "chinatown" district (i probably spelled it wrong )

there is gunshops next door to each other though

once your there ,you cant miss them

Yes I was there when we bought our 9mm SW simi-auto, many shops, mostly all run by Indians, you can find anything from A-Z, interesting place

[opalred]

you know what usually happens to gun owners in thailand girlfriend tells friend has a gun in house friend tells another etc etc

till drug element in area find out a gun to them as they cannt buy is worth more than gold or there all there yaba

so naturally have to have at any cost think about it and donnt think my girl wont talk they all do its there culture cheers

[ATF]

you know what usually happens to gun owners in thailand girlfriend tells friend has a gun in house friend tells another etc etc

till drug element in area find out a gun to them as they cannt buy is worth more than gold or there all there yaba

so naturally have to have at any cost think about it and donnt think my girl wont talk they all do its there culture cheers

All the more reason to have multiple guns and other weapons.

[chrisinth]

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you know what usually happens to gun owners in thailand girlfriend tells friend has a gun in house friend tells another etc etc

till drug element in area find out a gun to them as they cannt buy is worth more than gold or there all there yaba

so naturally have to have at any cost think about it and donnt think my girl wont talk they all do its there culture cheers

That is such a difficult thought process for me to follow. If, and I do mean if, the information that you have a weapon on the premises is out in the wild it should act as a deterrent instead of a magnet for a break in. You wouldn't want to break into a premises knowing there may be a surprise waiting on the other side of the door.

Try a trip to any of the border towns around Thailand, spend a couple of days and see what is available to buy.................

Generally speaking, it is not weapons that kill, but the people using the weapons, many of which are obtained as above or similar. Lets not fool ourselves, there is a lot of stuff out there on the streets.