jacko45k Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 So did the number of accidents and fatalities in the Metropolitan area fall substantially during the protests? I wonder if they were more effective than the Traffic Police strict rule campaign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltandpepper Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Been in Thailand more than 15 years, and I hear that every 3 month or so. Nothing has changed. Nothing will. Not in my life time anyway.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie99 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Bless their little hearts. Don't they have a way of looking at things through those large, dark, uncomprehending eyes that makes one quiver with compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaijoe Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 cops do the same thing..run red lights.. drive motorcycles on the damm sidewalk. fine those Aholes 2,000 baht.period.. if they want to enforce the law, fine them big time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanlic Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Bless their little hearts. Don't they have a way of looking at things through those large, dark, uncomprehending eyes that makes one quiver with compassion. NO!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurboy Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 In all all honesty, I cannot make any useful contribution to this thread; please accept these instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Some people seem to forget that the poor traffic police have been hit hard financially by the anti government protests. These have been difficult times for them what with having to keep a low profile instead of being out and about collecting fines. did you forget they get a government salary as well ? all that tea money they collect is just a one of the "perks " of the job unless they been living well outside their means im sure a few weeks protest hasnt put them in financially " difficult times " and if it has then they deserve it Do you know how much a traffic cops salary is? Do you know how much the average traffic cop collects in 'off the record' fines daily? The 'fines' are not a perk of the job, it's the main reason they take the job, BB is quite correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryofthailand Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Thailand loves crackdowns. Why doesn't the traffic police check on public transportation such as busses and vans where the accident rate is high and many people killed each year. I'll tell you why is because that doesn't put any money in their pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Wow police actually doing their job. No wonder this makes the news. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app They aren't doing it yet,they are only saying that they will,which means they might try on some days but probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve C Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 It must be almost Songkran! OR April FOOLS DAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I wish them luck. It's like bailing water out of a leaking row boat with a thimble. Possible? Perhaps. But never ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam sen Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 educate/inform drivers and motorcycle riders then come down on them like a ton of bricks, all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Some people seem to forget that the poor traffic police have been hit hard financially by the anti government protests. These have been difficult times for them what with having to keep a low profile instead of being out and about collecting fines. did you forget they get a government salary as well ? all that tea money they collect is just a one of the "perks " of the job unless they been living well outside their means im sure a few weeks protest hasnt put them in financially " difficult times " and if it has then they deserve it did you forget they get a government salary as well ? Isn't that exactly what the BIB forget more often than not? "im sure a few weeks protest hasnt put them in financially " difficult times " Did the driving force "greed" ever cross your mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondan Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Shouldn't that headline read 'Thai traffic police to actually do their jobs, briefly'? Where else in the world can a crackdown be defined as strictly enforcing basic deadly practices such as speeding or drink driving? Strict enforcement is the default in any country serious about saving lives on the road! Sent from my GT-I9300T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sz1a Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Does anyone have the full list of what is being clamped down on? I heard no driving on the sidewalk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Some people seem to forget that the poor traffic police have been hit hard financially by the anti government protests. These have been difficult times for them what with having to keep a low profile instead of being out and about collecting fines. did you forget they get a government salary as well ? all that tea money they collect is just a one of the "perks " of the job unless they been living well outside their means im sure a few weeks protest hasnt put them in financially " difficult times " and if it has then they deserve it Gosh, that's my trouble I guess. I'm just too saintly and I only ever see the good in people..... even the police. And the average government salary of a Thai Traffic Policeman is?.. I think you had a valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphMichaels Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Keep those 20 THB notes handy for the quick "slip n slide" under the ticket book. Edited March 6, 2014 by AlphMichaels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackmirage2013 Posted March 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2014 This is so funny..... shouldn't the traffic police be doing this anyway as part of their regular job? That's like saying waiters in a restaurant will now start serving food to customers... Give me a break.... do your job and stop announcing it like it is EXTRA work beyond your required responsibilities!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focus27 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Does anyone have the full list of what is being clamped down on? I heard no driving on the sidewalk? Yeah, there was a list... from when they announced the same thing a month ago. Still the best one is: #6 No overtaking other vehicles in public. Does anybody want to guess what that could possibly mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focus27 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Does anyone have the full list of what is being clamped down on? I heard no driving on the sidewalk? Found it... enjoy: 1. Parking in prohibited area 2. Double parking 3. Parking on sidewalk 4. Driving on sidewalk 5. Overtaking other vehicles in the congested traffic 6. Overtaking other vehicles in public 7. Driving against the arrow sign 8. Running red lights 9. Driving under the influence of alcohol 10. Not fastening seatbelt 11. Using mobile while driving 12. Driving without a license 13. Speeding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheReporter Posted March 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) The idea of a taffic fine in Thailand gives me the impression that the Police only wants to find new ways of making money for themselves and nothing else will come out of it. Allowing fines to be collected by the police officers on the streets and check-points is like giving a piece red meat to a Lion and ask him to deliver it to the supermarket for sale. All the systems involving police in Thailand are almost as if they are designed with a corruption in mind. There is no check and balance to ensure accountability of actions, let alone accounting for financial matters. No police personnel should handle any type of money involving the public. All fines must be paid at a designated authority, such as the court or special office set up for collecting fines. All fines must be recorded with serial number receipts with regular auditing to ensure there is no discrepency in the collection of payment. In a democratic society where fines are imposed as civil forfeiture, there must be a due process that ensure the fine is not just being imposed for no justifiable legal reason. In other words, no police officer is allowed to just write tickets without having to account for them and having to testify in court to show proof beyond reasonable doub that such offense did occur and that the law enforcement action taken is in line with the established policy and procedure. BUT then again, we are talking about Thailand, a country that is considered to be somewhat developed, but yet lacks so many basic fundamental systems to ensure things are actually working effectively with tangible results. In almost everything that is created by the government, there are major flaws that seem to be purposely overlooked. There is no consistency in any practice or standard of enforcement. Enforcement actions are often fluctuated from one person to the next depending on his or her status. I have witnessed so many times where a person driving a BMW or Mercedes is allowed to park in a certain area of the street where it is obviously illegal and unsafe for the general public, while at the same time, an ordinary car would be asked to move or be fined for doing exactly the same thing. This is known as selective enforcement, which is illegal and considered to be the same as corruption or abuse of authority. Edited March 6, 2014 by TheReporter 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falangadang Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Some people seem to forget that the poor traffic police have been hit hard financially by the anti government protests. These have been difficult times for them what with having to keep a low profile instead of being out and about collecting fines. did you forget they get a government salary as well ? all that tea money they collect is just a one of the "perks " of the job unless they been living well outside their means im sure a few weeks protest hasnt put them in financially " difficult times " and if it has then they deserve it Yes,.. and that salary is Pi$$ poor... that has a lot to do with their motivation for tea money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourauntbob Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 a bit early for an april fools joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttthailand Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Do these laws include when driving on sidewalks or just on the roads ? Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancub Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The last paragraph sums it up.....illegal parking is obviously a more serious endangerment to life than drunken or reckless driving. Twaddle ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 sutheps thugs are armed and dangerous should they want to remove any of their trucks and cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Yay! A "Crackdown"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) The Traffic Police Division is set to reinforce road rules Is it April Fools already? Anyway ... how do you "reinforce" a rule? Put scaffolding around it? Much better to just "enforce" it methinks. Edited March 6, 2014 by Fullstop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 They only going to enforce the rules on the road too or will it cover those driving on sidewalks too? It is not against the law to ride a motorcycle on the sidewalk. Why do you think a lot of sidewalks have the kerbs lowered at junctions? Certainly not for wheelchair users. OH, and this is Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The idea of a taffic fine in Thailand gives me the impression that the Police only wants to find new ways of making money for themselves and nothing else will come out of it. Allowing fines to be collected by the police officers on the streets and check-points is like giving a piece red meat to a Lion and ask him to deliver it to the supermarket for sale. All the systems involving police in Thailand are almost as if they are designed with a corruption in mind. There is no check and balance to ensure accountability of actions, let alone accounting for financial matters. No police personnel should handle any type of money involving the public. All fines must be paid at a designated authority, such as the court or special office set up for collecting fines. All fines must be recorded with serial number receipts with regular auditing to ensure there is no discrepency in the collection of payment. In a democratic society where fines are imposed as civil forfeiture, there must be a due process that ensure the fine is not just being imposed for no justifiable legal reason. In other words, no police officer is allowed to just write tickets without having to account for them and having to testify in court to show proof beyond reasonable doub that such offense did occur and that the law enforcement action taken is in line with the established policy and procedure. BUT then again, we are talking about Thailand, a country that is considered to be somewhat developed, but yet lacks so many basic fundamental systems to ensure things are actually working effectively with tangible results. In almost everything that is created by the government, there are major flaws that seem to be purposely overlooked. There is no consistency in any practice or standard of enforcement. Enforcement actions are often fluctuated from one person to the next depending on his or her status. I have witnessed so many times where a person driving a BMW or Mercedes is allowed to park in a certain area of the street where it is obviously illegal and unsafe for the general public, while at the same time, an ordinary car would be asked to move or be fined for doing exactly the same thing. This is known as selective enforcement, which is illegal and considered to be the same as corruption or abuse of authority. Well, I avoid renting & driving vehicles in Thailand at all costs and so don't really deal with this, but I know a simple speeding ticket in California, including fees & costs, can run USD300. That doesn't include traffic school (to get the points removed), increased auto insurance costs, etc. I know the Thai way is born of corruption, but it's sure a whole lot cheaper & easier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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