Popular Post Dogmatix Posted March 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2014 Nothing unusual..........you blow a whistle, you have a grenade thrown at you. Direct instructions from the new UDD leader. Right but the order pre-dates Jatuporn's leadership and comes from the top level overseas. The order is also not just for a single grenade. It is for a series of terrorist attacks - racking your house with gunfire, several bombs and grenades etc. This one is not finished yet. The idea is to show anyone who opposes him, no matter how rich and influential, that they are just ants that can be stamped out by his terror squads with impunity, since the police are on their side and maybe even actively involved in the terrorist incidents. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Grenade hurled at Tonson Tower in Chidlom, but fails to explodeBANGKOK: -- The grenade thrown at Tonson Tower on Ploenchit Road early on Tuesday morning was similar to the MK2 type, police said.The tower is about 100 metres from a military check point.Officials are to check CCTV footage both from roadside cameras and those at the Tonson building.-- The Nation 2014-03-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuthow Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Hmmmmmmmmmmm I was in the Army for 36 years and my experience of grenades was that when you pulled the pin out and threw it, it exploded after x seconds. If it didn't, it was faulty.These MK2 grenades pre-date before even your bootcamp. Not surprising large numbers of them are faulty.The Mk.2 was replaced by the M26-series and later M33 series. It was phased out gradually in service beginning with the Korean War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_2_grenade As unstable as they are, they could just as likely detonate prior to pin pulling and perhaps that will be how the perpetrators are eventually caught; after blowing themselves up. Because goodness knows whenever the police will ever apprehend them. . Edited March 18, 2014 by kuthow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kuthow Posted March 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2014 Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) police arrived and said it was a MK 2 hand grenade. A few days earlier, the property firm owner blew whistle at Deputy Prime Minister Kittirat na Ranong while taking part in a football match. Always disturbing to read that somehow a TNT-stuffed fragmentation grenade (MK 2 grenade)... image.jpg is a justifiable reaction to Winnie the Pooh (anti-government whistle)... image.jpg Always disturbing in three ways. 1. The media for not so subtly inferring a link between a grenade thrown at a building and the fact that the building was owned by a person who blew a whistle at the DPM at a football match a few days earlier 2. The hard of thinking lapping this story up 3. The even more hard of thinking linking the grenade thrown at a building, a whistle blown at the DPM and Jatuporn taking over as head of the UDD 4. The ever-increasing lengths some go to feebly try to discount what is becoming an ever-increasing occurrence. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) police arrived and said it was a MK 2 hand grenade. A few days earlier, the property firm owner blew whistle at Deputy Prime Minister Kittirat na Ranong while taking part in a football match. Always disturbing to read that somehow a TNT-stuffed fragmentation grenade (MK 2 grenade)... image.jpg is a justifiable reaction to Winnie the Pooh (anti-government whistle)... image.jpg Always disturbing in three ways. 1. The media for not so subtly inferring a link between a grenade thrown at a building and the fact that the building was owned by a person who blew a whistle at the DPM at a football match a few days earlier 2. The hard of thinking lapping this story up 3. The even more hard of thinking linking the grenade thrown at a building, a whistle blown at the DPM and Jatuporn taking over as head of the UDD Common sense isn't 'hard thinking' Where there is smoke, there's fire. The grenade at the residence of the whistle blower at emporium following day was unrelated to the day before? We know you make the link, just like to take the piss; I see it is your hobby, basically. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Nothing unusual..........you blow a whistle, you have a grenade thrown at you. Direct instructions from the new UDD leader. As for Jatuporn, live by the grenade, and (hopefully)....... by the grenade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Serious observers of Thai politics are left stunned and shocked by the ramping up of violence that has coincided by the out-on-bail-for-terrorism-charges Jatuporn being thrust into the UDD head position. Nobody could have foreseen this happening. "Serious observers of Thai politics" would wait until investigations have been carried out by the relevant officials and announcements made rather than make baseless accusations influenced by their own blind prejudice and hatred. It won't be long now, we'll be observing Yingluck in tears as a former PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabruce Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Nothing unusual..........you blow a whistle, you have a grenade thrown at you. Direct instructions from the new UDD leader. Got to love consistency! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Serious observers of Thai politics are left stunned and shocked by the ramping up of violence that has coincided by the out-on-bail-for-terrorism-charges Jatuporn being thrust into the UDD head position. Nobody could have foreseen this happening. "Serious observers of Thai politics" would wait until investigations have been carried out by the relevant officials and announcements made rather than make baseless accusations influenced by their own blind prejudice and hatred. "out-on-bail-for-terrorism-charges" is that the "baseless accusation" in question? History is written by the victors ! First they were charges and second do you know all the ins and outs of these charges ? Since they were charges and guilt has not been proven yet, yes, until proven guilty, that accusation is baseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bruce Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 We do not know for certain who has been throwing the grenades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyknee Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Serious observers of Thai politics are left stunned and shocked by the ramping up of violence that has coincided by the out-on-bail-for-terrorism-charges Jatuporn being thrust into the UDD head position. Nobody could have foreseen this happening. "Serious observers of Thai politics" would wait until investigations have been carried out by the relevant officials and announcements made rather than make baseless accusations influenced by their own blind prejudice and hatred. "out-on-bail-for-terrorism-charges" is that the "baseless accusation" in question? History is written by the victors !First they were charges and second do you know all the ins and outs of these charges ? Since they were charges and guilt has not been proven yet, yes, until proven guilty, that accusation is baseless. try read it again.Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MunterHunter Posted March 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2014 Serious observers of Thai politics are left stunned and shocked by the ramping up of violence that has coincided by the out-on-bail-for-terrorism-charges Jatuporn being thrust into the UDD head position. Nobody could have foreseen this happening. "Serious observers of Thai politics" would wait until investigations have been carried out by the relevant officials and announcements made rather than make baseless accusations influenced by their own blind prejudice and hatred. "out-on-bail-for-terrorism-charges" is that the "baseless accusation" in question? History is written by the victors ! First they were charges and second do you know all the ins and outs of these charges ? Since they were charges and guilt has not been proven yet, yes, until proven guilty, that accusation is baseless. Actually, until the charges are resolved his statement is truthful... Jutaporn is "Out on bail for terrorism charges" That title remains valid until the charges are dropped or the case is resolved, up until that point the title is completely factual and valid. His innocence or guilt is not relevant, his is "out on bail for terrorism charges" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Serious observers of Thai politics are left stunned and shocked by the ramping up of violence that has coincided by the out-on-bail-for-terrorism-charges Jatuporn being thrust into the UDD head position. Nobody could have foreseen this happening. "Serious observers of Thai politics" would wait until investigations have been carried out by the relevant officials and announcements made rather than make baseless accusations influenced by their own blind prejudice and hatred. Really? And you think Thai investigations are impartial and honest? I think most seasoned observers understand where the violence comes from, who is financing it and who leads and approves it. It doesn't take much nouse to work that one out! I will repeat part of a post made elsewhere. Those seasoned and serious observers who may have heard and understood the words of violence, the threats and the sheer hatred displayed by the speakers (including Jaturporn) at Chiang Mai's recent red meeting at the Convention Centre, can only draw one conclusion. And it is not a conclusion that leaves any room for doubt. The reds want violence, need violence and call for violence - they have no other avenue left whilst they try and defend the indefensible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Very strange no grenade or bomb thrown to the dem's ever explodes, but to civilians and police they do explode.? Anyone has an answer on that ? Are you suggesting dems aren't civilians? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Nothing unusual..........you blow a whistle, you have a grenade thrown at you. Direct instructions from the new UDD leader. yea but it is efective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Serious observers of Thai politics are left stunned and shocked by the ramping up of violence that has coincided by the out-on-bail-for-terrorism-charges Jatuporn being thrust into the UDD head position. Nobody could have foreseen this happening. "Serious observers of Thai politics" would wait until investigations have been carried out by the relevant officials and announcements made rather than make baseless accusations influenced by their own blind prejudice and hatred. Really? And you think Thai investigations are impartial and honest? I think most seasoned observers understand where the violence comes from, who is financing it and who leads and approves it. It doesn't take much nouse to work that one out! I will repeat part of a post made elsewhere. Those seasoned and serious observers who may have heard and understood the words of violence, the threats and the sheer hatred displayed by the speakers (including Jaturporn) at Chiang Mai's recent red meeting at the Convention Centre, can only draw one conclusion. And it is not a conclusion that leaves any room for doubt. The reds want violence, need violence and call for violence - they have no other avenue left whilst they try and defend the indefensible. AH. me thinks you forgot some of the others like suthep and not monk. They both have very trashy mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Most of you talking here are completely against the red shirts. But you al for got one thing they have been to court to face the charges. But your beloved suthep has not. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE??????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Most of you talking here are completely against the red shirts. But you al for got one thing they have been to court to face the charges. But your beloved suthep has not. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE??????????????????? Weren't they brought to the court to hear the charges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Most of you talking here are completely against the red shirts. But you al for got one thing they have been to court to face the charges. But your beloved suthep has not. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE??????????????????? Yingluck is refusing to acknowledges the charges against her, and Thaksin fled the country after one of the cases against him resulted in jail time... So basically... you are wrong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuthow Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Most of you talking here are completely against the red shirts. How very astute; nothing gets past you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 One officer said it did not explode because a safety pin which has been pulled out was broken while hitting the floor. Load of BS once the pin is out you can pick your teeth with the pin it wont make any difference to the grenade exploding... either it was a dud or the pin wasnt pulled it cant have been the excuse here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Most of you talking here are completely against the red shirts. But you al for got one thing they have been to court to face the charges. But your beloved suthep has not. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE??????????????????? Weren't they brought to the court to hear the charges? No, suthep has not been near a court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) police arrived and said it was a MK 2 hand grenade. A few days earlier, the property firm owner blew whistle at Deputy Prime Minister Kittirat na Ranong while taking part in a football match. Always disturbing to read that somehow a TNT-stuffed fragmentation grenade (MK 2 grenade)... image.jpg is a justifiable reaction to Winnie the Pooh (anti-government whistle)... image.jpg Always disturbing in three ways. 1. The media for not so subtly inferring a link between a grenade thrown at a building and the fact that the building was owned by a person who blew a whistle at the DPM at a football match a few days earlier 2. The hard of thinking lapping this story up 3. The even more hard of thinking linking the grenade thrown at a building, a whistle blown at the DPM and Jatuporn taking over as head of the UDD 4. The ever-increasing lengths some go to feebly try to discount what is becoming an ever-increasing occurrence. I'm not discounting that a grenade was thrown - just another example of knee jerk posting. If you read carefully you'll see I was pointing out the blatant inferred linkage by the media (and more than a few posters on here) between grenades being thrown and the UDD. You see there is no evidence of that being the case unlike say the linkage between the tavor toting gunmen and the peaceful PDRC guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm not discounting that a grenade was thrown - just another example of knee jerk posting. If you read carefully you'll see I was pointing out the blatant inferred linkage by the media (and more than a few posters on here) between grenades being thrown and the UDD. You see there is no evidence of that being the case unlike say the linkage between the tavor toting gunmen and the peaceful PDRC guards. Maybe you could do Thai public a favour and start reporting to authorities inside information you have on UDD/Red shirts militants? Has it ever occurred to you that Thai police is not doing their job and covering up on purpose? Or you believe that Thai police force is utterly incompetent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) police arrived and said it was a MK 2 hand grenade. A few days earlier, the property firm owner blew whistle at Deputy Prime Minister Kittirat na Ranong while taking part in a football match. Always disturbing to read that somehow a TNT-stuffed fragmentation grenade (MK 2 grenade)... image.jpg is a justifiable reaction to Winnie the Pooh (anti-government whistle)... image.jpg Always disturbing in three ways. 1. The media for not so subtly inferring a link between a grenade thrown at a building and the fact that the building was owned by a person who blew a whistle at the DPM at a football match a few days earlier 2. The hard of thinking lapping this story up 3. The even more hard of thinking linking the grenade thrown at a building, a whistle blown at the DPM and Jatuporn taking over as head of the UDD Common sense isn't 'hard thinking' Where there is smoke, there's fire. The grenade at the residence of the whistle blower at emporium following day was unrelated to the day before? We know you make the link, just like to take the piss; I see it is your hobby, basically. So, no evidence then, just pure supposition bolstered by your "common sense" and the ever reliable idiom "Where there's smoke there's fire". Well working on that theory I might just as well say I believe that it is the army as they have motive to discredit both the UDD and the PTP and if it all adds up to the government not being in a position to return as a government and Prayuths "good" people are in power (in whatever form it takes) then all well and good. See, that is just as credible as you blaming the UDD without reason - the only difference is this post won't have the minions falling over themselves to like each others "variation on a theme" posts. It's not common sense, just blind prejudice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) I'm not discounting that a grenade was thrown - just another example of knee jerk posting. If you read carefully you'll see I was pointing out the blatant inferred linkage by the media (and more than a few posters on here) between grenades being thrown and the UDD. You see there is no evidence of that being the case unlike say the linkage between the tavor toting gunmen and the peaceful PDRC guards. Maybe you could do Thai public a favour and start reporting to authorities inside information you have on UDD/Red shirts militants? Has it ever occurred to you that Thai police is not doing their job and covering up on purpose? Or you believe that Thai police force is utterly incompetent? Maybe you could, by reporting to the authorities how you know it is members of the UDD that are responsible for the grenade (functioning and non functioning) attacks. How ridiculous does that proposition sound? Precisely. Do you even stop to think what you are writing, before posting? Edited March 19, 2014 by fab4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Most of you talking here are completely against the red shirts. But you al for got one thing they have been to court to face the charges. But your beloved suthep has not. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE??????????????????? Weren't they brought to the court to hear the charges? No, suthep has not been near a court. The hearing of the charges was with the Attorney-general, not at court: Democrat party leader Abhist Vejjajiva and Surat Thani MP Suthep Thuagsuban today reported themselves to the Office of the Attorney-General (OAG) to formally acknowledge murder charges imposed for their role in the 2010 crackdown on red-shirt protesters. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/abhisit-suthep-hear-formal-murder-charge-oag/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebruce Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 As You Do..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Most of you talking here are completely against the red shirts. But you al for got one thing they have been to court to face the charges. But your beloved suthep has not. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE??????????????????? Weren't they brought to the court to hear the charges? No, suthep has not been near a court. Kneejerk reactions and reading and interpretation problems as usual. Now please pay attention I will only explain this once! Our diehard chap wrote that red-shirts had been to court to face charges already. That seemed to refer to UDD leaders as he followed up with 'but not Suthep'. Now that's why I wrote that I thought "they (i.e. UDD leaders) had been brought to court to hear charges as in 'surrendered to the police on the 19th of May 2010 and put in protective custody and still in that custody'. Now if you have information to correct what I thought, please go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuthow Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) police arrived and said it was a MK 2 hand grenade. A few days earlier, the property firm owner blew whistle at Deputy Prime Minister Kittirat na Ranong while taking part in a football match. Always disturbing to read that somehow a TNT-stuffed fragmentation grenade (MK 2 grenade)... image.jpg is a justifiable reaction to Winnie the Pooh (anti-government whistle)... image.jpg Always disturbing in three ways. 1. The media for not so subtly inferring a link between a grenade thrown at a building and the fact that the building was owned by a person who blew a whistle at the DPM at a football match a few days earlier 2. The hard of thinking lapping this story up 3. The even more hard of thinking linking the grenade thrown at a building, a whistle blown at the DPM and Jatuporn taking over as head of the UDD 4. The ever-increasing lengths some go to feebly try to discount what is becoming an ever-increasing occurrence. I'm not discounting that a grenade was thrown - just another example of knee jerk posting. If you read carefully you'll see I was pointing out the blatant inferred linkage by the media (and more than a few posters on here) between grenades being thrown and the UDD. You see there is no evidence of that being the case unlike say the linkage between the tavor toting gunmen and the peaceful PDRC guards. The ever-increasing lengths just increased with attempts to misdirect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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