Pheu Thai party opposes charter court's ruling

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Pheu Thai party opposes charter court's ruling



BANGKOK: --The Pheu Thai party issued a statement expressing its opposition to the Constitution Court’s ruling nullifying the February 2 election.

In the statement which was issued shortly after the court’s reading of the ruling, the party insisted that the ombudsman had no authority to submit the petition challenging the legitimacy of the election to the court for consideration.

The court’s ruling, said the party, will create more problem and affect a lot of people who have exercised their voting right.

That the election could be staged in all constituencies on February 2 because of the obstruction caused by the People’s Democratic Reform Committee, said the party which also expressed doubt about the integrity of some court judges who were framers of the Constitution.

By nullifying the election, the party said that the charter court acted as if had written a new Constitution.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pheu-thai-party-opposes-charter-courts-ruling/


-- Thai PBS 2014-03-21

[Cricketnut]

And it indeed has done so. Will be interesting to see the outcome.

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Independent law academic Verapat says Constitutional Court overrules charter

BANGKOK: -- Independent law academic Verapat Pariyawong said the Constitutional Court had overruled the constitution as the Charter allowed for elections to be staged at a later date if all the House seats were not occupied.

The charter stated that if 95 per cent of all House of Representative seats were occupied members could convene. It requires the seats to be fully occupied within 180 days.

There are 500 House of Representative constituencies.

"In my view, the Constitutional Court has ruled in a way that is against the constitution both in terms of the content and the process," Verapat said.

"However, the court did not bring the cause of the [problems related to] the election in the 28 constituencies, the obstruction of the election, into consideration.

-- The Nation 2014-03-21

[Fryslan boppe]

The UDD/RS Rally in Pattaya tomorrow will be a huge one.

It was already shaping up as that, before these 6 guys nullified all their votes.

Should be interesting.

[drand11]

Honestly, Reds should play this smart. Get voters ready to VOTE and have a plan for alternate PM when they win. Use this as a positive!! Go kick the Dems asses

[chainarong]

Well this is not surprising , perhaps a investigative jurno could do some investigating into the amount of times the PTP have disputed or challenged a court ruling and how many times they have agreed, over the past five years, stats never lie.

[somchaismith]

The UDD/RS Rally in Pattaya tomorrow will be a huge one.

It was already shaping up as that, before these 6 guys nullified all their votes.

Should be interesting.

Why, are they gunna burn down Walking Street this time?

Oh! So Jeff's been found?

[Tatsujin]

The UDD/RS Rally in Pattaya tomorrow will be a huge one.

It was already shaping up as that, before these 6 guys nullified all their votes.

Should be interesting.

You might be right ... might be a lot less tho if they don't count everyone there for the music festival ...

Unsurprising they dispute the ruling. PT have disputed everything from day one if it doesn't go their way.

Like a bunch of toddlers ... I want, I want, I want

[casualbiker]

All PTP and red shirts have to do is get rid of Shin and Co, and half their problems wil go away , but I guess brain is not the part of the body they like to use

BUT Phua Thai party ARE Shin and CO. It's Thaksin's party, The UDD are Thaksins lapdogs..

[j15mth]

So Yinglucks and Pheu Thai are above the Law and the Judges were appointed by ??

[whoisyourdaddy]

All PTP and red shirts have to do is get rid of Shin and Co, and half their problems wil go away , but I guess brain is not the part of the body they like to use

BUT Phua Thai party ARE Shin and CO. It's Thaksin's party, The UDD are Thaksins lapdogs..

Time to say " bye bye " to papa and stand on its own 2 legs.

If incapable of doing so, then step aside and let big dogs play

[Scamper]

" By nullifying the election, the party said that the charter court acted as if had written a new Constitution. "

How ? Which articles were rewritten ? The constitution states with great clarity that the election must be held on one day. The " independent academic " is wrong regarding the application of the 180 days. That applies if the election were held on one day and there weren't enough winners verified by the EC as being legitimate after the election had already taken place. Here we had an election take place where eight provinces were completely missing. There is nothing in the constitution that states it's OK to stage elections in various parts of the country at different times at will. If all constituencies are open for an election, and a 95 % quorum is not reached due to candidate infractions, then there are provisions for that. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what an " independent academic " thinks. And it certainly doesn't matter what Pheu Thai thinks. That's the ruling. Period. And casting aspersions on the makeup of the court is a clear signal to the UDD, without any question, and it is tantamount to stirring up civil unrest. That is what Pheu Thai is doing. They aren't just going after any court in the land. They have set their sights on discrediting the highest court in the land. Pheu Thai have never met a court ruling they liked. They have never met a court they liked. They never met an independent agency they liked. What does that tell you ? It tells you they are tailor-made for the UDD. They are tailor-made for Ko Tee. If the judicial system finds itself under attack from the UDD, the army will be obligated to defend them. Everyone knows that. And the courts should be protected. Pheu Thai by today's announcement, are now positioning themselves above the law. But by their rhetoric and tone, they have also left an open space. And the UDD is more than happy to fill that space. The UDD has been gearing up to act in ways that are obvious to all. Pheu Thai is openly encouraging a narrative that plays to the crazier elements of the UDD. It's unconscionable.

[WhizBang]

Pheu Thai party opposes charter court's ruling

Well, of course they do. Is anyone surprised?

[Gunna]

" By nullifying the election, the party said that the charter court acted as if had written a new Constitution. "

How ? Which articles were rewritten ? The constitution states with great clarity that the election must be held on one day. The " independent academic " is wrong regarding the application of the 180 days. That applies if the election were held on one day and there weren't enough winners verified by the EC as being legitimate after the election had already taken place. Here we had an election take place where eight provinces were completely missing. There is nothing in the constitution that states it's OK to stage elections in various parts of the country at different times at will. If all constituencies are open for an election, and a 95 % quorum is not reached due to candidate infractions, then there are provisions for that. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what an " independent academic " thinks. And it certainly doesn't matter what Pheu Thai thinks. That's the ruling. Period. And casting aspersions on the makeup of the court is a clear signal to the UDD, without any question, and it is tantamount to stirring up civil unrest. That is what Pheu Thai is doing. They aren't just going after any court in the land. They have set their sights on discrediting the highest court in the land. Pheu Thai have never met a court ruling they liked. They have never met a court they liked. They never met an independent agency they liked. What does that tell you ? It tells you they are tailor-made for the UDD. They are tailor-made for Ko Tee. If the judicial system finds itself under attack from the UDD, the army will be obligated to defend them. Everyone knows that. And the courts should be protected. Pheu Thai by today's announcement, are now positioning themselves above the law. But by their rhetoric and tone, they have also left an open space. And the UDD is more than happy to fill that space. The UDD has been gearing up to act in ways that are obvious to all. Pheu Thai is openly encouraging a narrative that plays to the crazier elements of the UDD. It's unconscionable.

PT & YS were told at the begining by EC and others that it wasn't going to be a valid election and it should be delayed until there were enough candidates. But they are desperate to hold onto power and continue to hide the true level of corruption over the last 2 years. Now by their actions they have cost Thailand an enormous amount of money with a voided election. EC should invoice PT with the cost for a senseless election.

[h90]

All PTP and red shirts have to do is get rid of Shin and Co, and half their problems wil go away , but I guess brain is not the part of the body they like to use

PTP and red shirt are Thaksin.....

It is like you would need to get rid of your head and your wallet......what is left?

[h90]

Pheu Thai party opposes charter court's ruling

Well, of course they do. Is anyone surprised?

I guess most criminals opposes the courts ruling.

[Gweiloman]

All PTP and red shirts have to do is get rid of Shin and Co, and half their problems wil go away , but I guess brain is not the part of the body they like to use

BUT Phua Thai party ARE Shin and CO. It's Thaksin's party, The UDD are Thaksins lapdogs..

Exactly. Seems like it's whoisyourdaddy that's not using his/her god given brain. What a waste.

[virtualtraveller]

Contempt of court. CC gave a poor reason for nullifying, that's the reason PT come out with this. The real reason is that you can't have a one-party parliament, it's silly, the govt would have no legitimacy and all those who didn't vote for a party, some 65% of the electorate just wouldn't co-operate in anything. It won't be a democracy. The results speak for themselves, sorry but Democrats boycott won out this time.

[whoisyourdaddy]

All PTP and red shirts have to do is get rid of Shin and Co, and half their problems wil go away , but I guess brain is not the part of the body they like to use

BUT Phua Thai party ARE Shin and CO. It's Thaksin's party, The UDD are Thaksins lapdogs..

Exactly. Seems like it's whoisyourdaddy that's not using his/her god given brain. What a waste.

Do you mean waste like your post or different kind of waste?

[whoisyourdaddy]

All PTP and red shirts have to do is get rid of Shin and Co, and half their problems wil go away , but I guess brain is not the part of the body they like to use

PTP and red shirt are Thaksin.....

It is like you would need to get rid of your head and your wallet......what is left?

Little correction, USE to be Thaksin

It is time for them to evolve and stick their heads out of the sand.

Red shirts, the leaders are paid muppets and the followers do not have enough brain to analyze anything.

They have been brained washed to believe it some elite that makes them poor, where the reality is far from truth.

IF one does not want to be singled out, then do not wear black suit to a white only party

[lungmi]

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The UDD/RS Rally in Pattaya tomorrow will be a huge one.

It was already shaping up as that, before these 6 guys nullified all their votes.

Should be interesting.

Frysian Boob, go .... (you are masochist too?)

[HonestQuietBob]

All PTP and red shirts have to do is get rid of Shin and Co, and half their problems wil go away , but I guess brain is not the part of the body they like to use

If the PTP and the Reds got rid of the Shinawatras, they'd get along just fine, nothing much would change, they will continue to win massive majorities in elections.

The ones it would really affect are the coup-mongers who would have to try and sell their apartheid without a someone to demonise to win support from the gullible and to provide a distraction to hide their true motives from the masses.

Without Thaksin the yellow fig leave is removed and the undemocratic, greedy authoritarian monster is revealed.

[xminator]

You can lie or dislike whoever is in power, but that does not change the fact that the Constitution Court have made a ruling that could be in opposition to the Constitution. There was a minority vote among the judges that thougt so, so what is the check and balance against the Constitution Court?

Or the fact that there is a legal dispute on the procedure used to raise the case to the court in the first place.

[xminator]

So Yinglucks and Pheu Thai are above the Law and the Judges were appointed by ??

Problem is, what do you do when the court set aside the law and make a ruling based on its own wishes?

[geriatrickid]

The CC court ruled, but the PTP has every legal and moral right to object and to contest the ruling.

Rather, than argue over the flawed decision, the PTP whould concentrate its efforts into winning the next election and taking its case directly to the people. The Democrat party and military junta appointed judges have been overtly hostile to the government. Well, that was to be expected. The Democrat and military appointed EC officials have been unco-operative with the government. That too was to be expected.

Now is the time to get the election underway, to make sure the candidates are registered and to hold the election asap. Take the case to the people and let the people decide. I expect that the people will vote in the PTP.

[MunterHunter]

The CC court ruled, but the PTP has every legal and moral right to object and to contest the ruling.

Rather, than argue over the flawed decision, the PTP whould concentrate its efforts into winning the next election and taking its case directly to the people. The Democrat party and military junta appointed judges have been overtly hostile to the government. Well, that was to be expected. The Democrat and military appointed EC officials have been unco-operative with the government. That too was to be expected.

Now is the time to get the election underway, to make sure the candidates are registered and to hold the election asap. Take the case to the people and let the people decide. I expect that the people will vote in the PTP.

I expect you will be disappointed.

[rubl]

The CC court ruled, but the PTP has every legal and moral right to object and to contest the ruling.

Rather, than argue over the flawed decision, the PTP whould concentrate its efforts into winning the next election and taking its case directly to the people. The Democrat party and military junta appointed judges have been overtly hostile to the government. Well, that was to be expected. The Democrat and military appointed EC officials have been unco-operative with the government. That too was to be expected.

Now is the time to get the election underway, to make sure the candidates are registered and to hold the election asap. Take the case to the people and let the people decide. I expect that the people will vote in the PTP.

Wow, the legal and moral right! Rather than argue a flawed decision!

Now there are a number of assumptions there which suggest you do not think the CC made the correct ruling.

Typical, we respect the court's ruling, but we think it's flawed.

Anyway, now is the time to really start of reform.

[rubl]

So Yinglucks and Pheu Thai are above the Law and the Judges were appointed by ??

Problem is, what do you do when the court set aside the law and make a ruling based on its own wishes?

Nice question, what's next, asking if the temperature outside was of influence?

What if the court read the law and made the right decision?

[fab4]

So Yinglucks and Pheu Thai are above the Law and the Judges were appointed by ??

Problem is, what do you do when the court set aside the law and make a ruling based on its own wishes?

Nice question, what's next, asking if the temperature outside was of influence?

What if the court read the law and made the right decision?

It would be a refreshing change.

[rubl]

So Yinglucks and Pheu Thai are above the Law and the Judges were appointed by ??

Problem is, what do you do when the court set aside the law and make a ruling based on its own wishes?

Nice question, what's next, asking if the temperature outside was of influence?

What if the court read the law and made the right decision?

It would be a refreshing change.

The "would" in your reply suggests that you don't agree that the ruling today is based on the law and the right decision. Maybe just my poor understanding of that queer language called English