webfact Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 One thousand logs of protected wood seized in KalasinKALASIN, 25 March 2014 (NNT) – Kalasin police have confiscated more than one thousand logs of Siamese Rosewood, believed to be worth nearly 10 million baht.Kalasin police, together with Phuphan National Park rangers, raided a property in Na Khu District following an intelligence report that smuggled objects might be in storage in the household.During a quick inspection, authorities found more than a thousand logs of protected Siamese rosewood stored at the property. It's believed that the timber was being assembled for delivery to foreign buyers. The owner of the property managed to flee the scene before authorities arrived.According to police, the timber would have been worth up to 10 million baht if it had been smuggled out of the country.Thailand is believed to be home to the world's only remaining Siamese Rosewood forests.-- NNT 2014-03-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I suggest that a law that anyone who is found to have cut down a tree that is protected and anyone who sells it, buys it, transports it or manufactures it should lose a limb or twig of their own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetrout Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) if my caculations are right it averages out at $10,000 baht per piece. if they were stored in the house they must be small pieces . no wonder this guy was risking this profession. it is a shame they are destroying the forest. good old capiitalism. Edited March 25, 2014 by davetrout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookhaht Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Well, at least they know it was the property owner. No how hard could it be to look that up at the Amphoe (district) records, and search for the guy? Probably too complicated or bothersome for the local authorities to pursue. However to cut down a thousand trees (noise, transport, etc.) had to be carried out by paying off similar, if not the same authorities, for a considerable amount of time. Possibly somebody missed a payment? Edited March 25, 2014 by Fookhaht 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daak Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I lived there 3 years ago and wow this is an ongoing racket for most. No police in many areas, no forestry personnel who have time to do anything about it. It's all that's left and there ( the drug addicted> drunk locals) are all in on it. The village head was a woman who's husband owned the timber mill > I'm sure everyone can see Just how things work in a law less area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Well, at least they know it was the property owner. No how hard could it be to look that up at the Amphoe (district) records, and search for the guy? Probably too complicated or bothersome for the local authorities to pursue. However to cut down a thousand trees (noise, transport, etc.) had to be carried out by paying off similar, if not the same authorities, for a considerable amount of time. Possibly somebody missed a payment? You have no way of knowing any of this and are just "assuming" the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan michaud Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The going rate was $10,000 per cubic meter a couple of months back, so it is impossible for us to judge the value without seeing the size of the logs, but the valuation sounds reasonable. Of course the question has to be how the owner managed to flee in advance and surely they must know who owns the property? With this amount of money involved you know for sure the RTP were deeply involved along with local politicians and other scum that has managed to float to the top of local society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookhaht Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Well, at least they know it was the property owner. No how hard could it be to look that up at the Amphoe (district) records, and search for the guy? Probably too complicated or bothersome for the local authorities to pursue. However to cut down a thousand trees (noise, transport, etc.) had to be carried out by paying off similar, if not the same authorities, for a considerable amount of time. Possibly somebody missed a payment? You have no way of knowing any of this and are just "assuming" the worst. "You have no way of knowing any of this..." YOU ARE QUITE CORRECT "...and are just "assuming" the worst. I AM ASSUMING THE PROBABLE, living here near Kalasin for 10+years and having a number of Thai friends in the city government & police force. (Another naysayer trying to prove everyone a liar or discount their posts. Some posters, instead of contributing new thoughts to these forums, mostly prefer to just sit back and take pot-shots at those who do. Get a life. ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDGRUEN Posted March 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Well, at least they know it was the property owner. No how hard could it be to look that up at the Amphoe (district) records, and search for the guy? Probably too complicated or bothersome for the local authorities to pursue. However to cut down a thousand trees (noise, transport, etc.) had to be carried out by paying off similar, if not the same authorities, for a considerable amount of time. Possibly somebody missed a payment? You have no way of knowing any of this and are just "assuming" the worst. "You have no way of knowing any of this..." YOU ARE QUITE CORRECT "...and are just "assuming" the worst. I AM ASSUMING THE PROBABLE, living here near Kalasin for 10+years and having a number of Thai friends in the city government & police force. (Another naysayer trying to prove everyone a liar or discount their posts. Some posters, instead of contributing new thoughts to these forums, mostly prefer to just sit back and take pot-shots at those who do. Get a life. ) A huge percentage of what is posted on any forum on any website worldover is just 'Opinion'... sometimes opinion based on experience -- 'been there done that'... or 'lived it'... Some people just cannot handle people stating such opinion .... Those intolerant people often think of themselves as tolerant - but actually they are tolerant only when they agree with what is posted. There are far too many on TVF who seem to suffer from an obsessive - compulsive Control Complex .... just unable to resist the urge to Control what other people say... Edited March 25, 2014 by JDGRUEN 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loong Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The local school had 3 of these trees in its grounds. About 5 days ago, they disappeared in the middle of the night. I don't know how true, but I was told that the value of these 3 trees was about 1 million Baht. They left behind branches that were still extremely valuable, apparently. Fact: The trees were cut down with a chainsaw Fact: They needed heavy vehicles to cart away the trees Fact: There is a roadside police station about 50 metres away, but nobody heard anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Transportation of timber on the Thai Cambodia border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The local school had 3 of these trees in its grounds. About 5 days ago, they disappeared in the middle of the night. I don't know how true, but I was told that the value of these 3 trees was about 1 million Baht. They left behind branches that were still extremely valuable, apparently. Fact: The trees were cut down with a chainsaw Fact: They needed heavy vehicles to cart away the trees Fact: There is a roadside police station about 50 metres away, but nobody heard anything. Here's something for the schoolkids to discuss in their next philosophy class: If a tree is cut down with a chainsaw in the middle of the night and none of the police around hear a sound does that make it a crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianP Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The guilty should be sentenced to re-planting the rosewood forests! Then Brazil, then India,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesDean3 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I guess no one will go to jail as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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