if a Thai girl who isn't a bar girl accepts money for sex....

[little mary sunshine]

TIT....Just another hooker that "claims to be educated" These sweet little "Things" can

scam you so fast....Some food for thought: Never believe..." Mama sick I need 3K baht"

.......Second date "I love you, You so Hasoom"......."You buy me motorbike, I love You"...

Oh, my friend's farang boyfriend love HER, He buy Her BIG GOLD.......Enjoy the sex,

if she's any good.....just don't get BURNT>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[wym]

In any western country to accept money for sex will be considered prostitution. But in Thailand this is quite different. In Thailand its generelly not accepted for a girl to have sex with someone she isnt married to, or to have a one night stand, a short term relationship or similar. On the other hand - if the sex is payed for its much more likely accepted than if not. Thats the moral and etichs in Thailand.....

Yes, most Thais would be scandalized by a girl going out and having casual sex for the fun of it, giving it away just because she liked the guys and happened to feel horny.

But if she's making a lot of money at it, or even only a little but "needs" it for whatever reason (don't we all), then many of that group would let her off the hook, it's completely understandable.

And for those explicitly in the sex industry, acclimated to its mores, there's almost nothing more shameful than a girl who gives it away or marries a poor guy for love, she's considered a right blooming idiot.

Personally I can see these ideas as OK, just a different set of standards is all. . .

[AngelsLariat]

No shortage of female university students in the West paying for their tuition - and lifestyles - with sex. Whether its sex with strangers or a series of 'sugar daddy' arrangements, is it really any different ?

He's not saying that there aren't part-time PFP girls in the West, he's saying that he wouldn't want to hook up with a woman who does that in the West. Probably he wouldn't want to hook up with one that's just looking for a sugar daddy either. Even in Thailand there are woman who are not just trying to catch a man for his money and it's not unreasonable for a man to prefer them over the golddiggers.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Until and unless the OP mentions just how much his friend offered the girls and she supposedly accepted, it's kind of pointless to comment on her her character.

The other thing is, people chatting online say things all the time that aren't true and/or that they don't have any intention of doing. She could have just been playing with the friend, just as he in fact fact was playing with her.

[wym]

If I read you correctly, then most of the girls we interact with, are indeed prostitutes,

its just that some also have day jobs.

All depends how you define it. There are indeed some groups of high-flying relatively wealthy young girls who are more liberated and globalized in their thinking who will have casual sex just for fun - generally only with young & hansum (& most likely of the same jetset class) but they are a very tiny percentage of the Thai female population.

Out of the rest, if they have sex with foreigners they are pretty much all (90+%?) doing so in order to try to improve their financial security in life. Personally I would only call maybe half of them actual sex-workers, and Thais only use such words as "prostitute" for those cheaply selling themselves in the street or karaoke/gogo bars.

[uptheos]

You are being completely ridiculous. A western girl would feel ashamed to accept cash for sex. But, she would be perfectly comfortable accepting three dinners, and one gift for sex. So, how is that any different? The Thai girl is being more honest, and displaying more integrity, is she not? She is telling you up front exactly what it is going to take. With the western girl it may be four dinners, and two gifts. It is going to depend upon her mood. Will she offer you sex if you are poor, and cannot afford the dinners? Very unlikely. So, what would you call the little exchange that is taking place? I call it pay for play. Of course, they would never admit that. But, I am calling it like I see it. There is nothing ethically or morally wrong with paying for sex. It is inherently honest. It is our religious upbringing that prevents us from seeing this.

All at one sitting?

Are dinners for sex causing obesity among women in the west?

[AngelsLariat]

OP - when you say that he offered a lot of money, are we talking about money like in the movie Indecent Proposal or money like one might spend in a soapy? If it was truly big money that he/you offered her then this might just be an example of what a defense attorney would call "entrapment".

[HooHaa]

what do you want us to say?

i reckon you are worse than she is. in fact you may be guilty of enticing her into a life of prostitution.

why wouldnt she shag your mate to clear half the months car payment?

shame on you

[Scarpolo]

No shortage of female university students in the West paying for their tuition - and lifestyles - with sex. Whether its sex with strangers or a series of 'sugar daddy' arrangements, is it really any different ?

He's not saying that there aren't part-time PFP girls in the West, he's saying that he wouldn't want to hook up with a woman who does that in the West. Probably he wouldn't want to hook up with one that's just looking for a sugar daddy either. Even in Thailand there are woman who are not just trying to catch a man for his money and it's not unreasonable for a man to prefer them over the golddiggers.

In the US there are all sorts of services being transacted by girls, who you would never suspect are in the P4P game

before I went to Thailand, I didnt think very highly of this,

I now see thngs VERY differently

[ABCer]

In any western country to accept money for sex will be considered prostitution. But in Thailand this is quite different. In Thailand its generelly not accepted for a girl to have sex with someone she isnt married to, or to have a one night stand, a short term relationship or similar. On the other hand - if the sex is payed for its much more likely accepted than if not. Thats the moral and etichs in Thailand.....

If I read you correctly, then most of the girls we interact with, are indeed prostitutes,

its just that some also have day jobs.

Mangkhut, Scarpolo and others. Afraid you are all slightly wrong.

Stop thinking all girls to be prostitutes. And stop being sad over it.

Above all do not mention 'Thai', morals and Ethics when talking about females, males and sex.

Accept one biological fact (I deliberately do not refer to many other factors that may be considered induced or simply result of brainwash).

The biological fact is: both men and women want sex - sometimes, for whatever reasons.

The crucial difference between genders is:

- men must have an erection;

- women do not need it.

This biological fact is the basis of all disparities, grudges, conflicts between the genders. Use your imagination or experiences to create all sorts of pictures.

Don't blame me - I haven't created this situation.

And stop bashing Thais for this. There are plenty of other more valid reasons.

Edited April 4, 2014 by ABCer

[HooHaa]

College educated, has a bachelors degree...

Did your friend gain a B.A. from college?

how is that relevant to anything

It's relevant because a B.A. would be gained from a university.

Your story doesn't add up.

Nice try.

well thanks for that insight into you limited world view and poor grasp of english beyond the confines of your own immediate experience.

And you managed to do it all while completely ignoring the actual point of the post.

you are 2 for 2 today, keep rolling those dice.

Edited April 4, 2014 by HooHaa

[PattayaPhom]

So you would have no problem pursuing a relationship with a Thai girl who was willing to accept money for sex?

Hooker.....many Thai and other nationality girls are poor but do not resort to prostitution. Get rid.

[stickylies]

as long as she cuts your ingrown toenails for FREE. that's all that matters to most TV dudes!

[stickylies]

ps. this TV site REALLY needs two login/portals. one for the clowns and one for the geniusses.

clown site 150000 members

genius site 1000 members

[transam]

This must be a wind up thread....................

[asupeartea]

it be that the OP is American in which case the aforementioned degree was attained at a college (known to others as a university?)

It's American idiom, you fool (for want of a more accurate term). If an American is in university s/he would say, "I am going to college." They don't mean A college necessarily, just tertiary education.

idiom: a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light ).

synonyms:

language, mode of expression, turn of phrase, style, speech, locution,diction, usage, phraseology, phrasing, phrase, vocabulary, terminology,parlance, jargon, argot, cant, patter, tongue, vernacular;

tertiary: Tertiary education, also referred to as third stage, third level, and post-secondary education, is the educational level following the completion of a school providing a secondary education

[i claudius]

To be honest all my ex wives accepted money from me and i had sex with them ,

[jsflynn603]

Mr Worldwide got it right.

Not likely the first time. If you didn't use a condom wait a few months and get a standard STI/STD battery of tests. Of course it won't test for human papiloma virus (HPV) nor herpes virus (HSV), nor Hep a or b, no need to worry about Hep C. (and a condom helps but does not prevent HPV or HSV. Just a part-time bar girl without a bar, makin' ends meet.

But the one woman that I almost married in Chiang mai would have slugged me and walked away had I made the slightest offer. I would have run away. About 12~ of all woman engage in the sex trade, some in massage parlors, some in bars, and some that are occasional.

Just my opinion though...

[Card]

I think people who offer Thais money for sex as a 'test' have themselves passed the test for being the lowest of the low. I remember an ex- friend of mine who offered a poor Cambodian motorcycle taxi driver money for sex and he refused, so my ex-friend kept upping the price to see how far the driver could resist. He had no intention of giving him money - just wanted to show how vulnerable the guy was. Anyway the driver resisted all offers and I chastised my ex-friend for showing such disrespect and stupidity.

Remember for every bribe taken by a poor person, there is a slimy richer briber behind it.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Card

[Eric Loh]

If you been here long enough, you will realise that there are working and university girls who do part-time prostitution. Not trying to imply anything but just stating a known information.

[realenglish1]

I would dump her in a heart beat. Its that simple She does not have good character .

Accepting money for sex is prostitution according to the Websters dictionary. And that is the dictionary that is used in a court of law

This is a no brainer

[bushwacker]

I think she is liberated like you. She thinks like you also. Sex is great exercise. Some times you play the game because it is fun, and sometimes you play because the other person is paying you. Both good exercise.

[AngelsLariat]

You are being completely ridiculous. A western girl would feel ashamed to accept cash for sex. But, she would be perfectly comfortable accepting three dinners, and one gift for sex. So, how is that any different? The Thai girl is being more honest, and displaying more integrity, is she not? She is telling you up front exactly what it is going to take. With the western girl it may be four dinners, and two gifts. It is going to depend upon her mood. Will she offer you sex if you are poor, and cannot afford the dinners? Very unlikely. So, what would you call the little exchange that is taking place? I call it pay for play. Of course, they would never admit that. But, I am calling it like I see it. There is nothing ethically or morally wrong with paying for sex. It is inherently honest. It is our religious upbringing that prevents us from seeing this.

The morality of prostitution is a bit tangential to the original post. If he wouldn’t want to date a lawyer in his home country, it’s completely legitimate for him to not date a lawyer in Thailand. If he wouldn’t want to date a prostitute in his home country, it’s completely legitimate for him to not date a prostitute in Thailand. That doesn’t change even if you think that there is being a lawyer is no worse than having any other job.

[Card]

I would dump her in a heart beat. Its that simple She does not have good character .

Accepting money for sex is prostitution according to the Websters dictionary. And that is the dictionary that is used in a court of law

This is a no brainer

And what about the slime behind people who bribe? That's a no-brainer too.

[brewsterbudgen]

I would dump her in a heart beat. Its that simple She does not have good character .

Accepting money for sex is prostitution according to the Websters dictionary. And that is the dictionary that is used in a court of law

This is a no brainer

Since when has accepting money for sex been a sign of bad character? I wonder what world some people are living in!

[asupeartea]

To be honest all my ex wives accepted money from me and i had sex with them ,

What's the difference between an ex-wife and a prostitute? The prostitute takes your money before she screws you.

[Kerryd]

Yeah, first thing I do whenever I meet a new girl is get one of my buddies to have sex with her (for money) and if he's successful, ask a bunch of random strangers if I should still consider going out with her !

Then my "buddy" can fill me in on all the "gory" details so I'll know what it may be like if I have sex with her, and it won't be awkward at all if I take her out somewhere and my "buddy" happens to be there 'cause I know he'd never consider paying her for sex again, and I know that now she is with me, she'll never consider selling sex to anyone again.

Right teerak ? Teerak ? Where did you go ? "Buddy" - did you see where teerak went ? "Buddy" ? Hmmm, where did "buddy" go. Odd that he and teerak seem to disappear at the same time wherever we go out together. Maybe they just have to go to the bathroom at the same time, every time.

Oh wait, there they are, both coming back at the same time from wherever they disappeared to. Ah look, they're smiling and laughing. Must have told a funny joke or something. And look, "buddy" is holding her hand to make sure she doesn't slip and fall or something ! What a great guy "buddy" is, he's giving her some money. Must be to pay the bill with !

I'm so lucky. I should get "buddy" to pay for sex with all my prospective girlfriends first ! What could ever go wrong ?

Seriously. A "good" girl (especially with a decent education) isn't likely to shag the first farang that chats her up and flashes some cash. There are some college/uni girls that like to supplement their income with some extra-curricular activities for sure, but they generally are not considered "good" girls. There are also a lot of girls that claim to be college/uni girls that "play for pay".

The uni girls that I know of that like to earn a bit on the side generally stick to the "Thai" venues that don't have a lot of farang customers (a number of my Thai friends like to go to those places, especially when there is some kind of school holiday that allows more of the girls to make the trip). They (usually) go to places far removed from where they are going to school (or living) to try and avoid being recognized.

And then there are whole places dedicated (so I've heard) to catering to "schoolgirl" thing, where the ladies all dress up and pretend to be college/uni girls.

It used to be that a "good" girl wouldn't even go on a date (with anyone) unless she brought a chaperon to protect her reputation. Times "are a changing" but prostitution is still not considered a "virtuous" profession and any girl that is seen (or even thought of) as selling sex, especially to farangs, is not going to fare well in the reputation department, especially if she is still in college/uni.

If I was going out with a "good" girl I sure as #*&~! wouldn't be asking a friend to try and have sex with her for money ! And if I found out she was turning tricks on the side with anyone that had a pulse and cash, I'd be looking for a new "soon-to-be-ex" in a flash, not asking a bunch of strangers if I should stick with her.

(ps: if you need a "buddy" to try out some of your future prospective "good" girlfriends, give me a call. My rates are cheap and my discretion is reasonably assured. Gifts, photos, videos and "proof of consummation" cost extra. Results not guaranteed. Offer void if "prospective g/f" doesn't match online photos. Cash in advance. No refunds. Money advanced may be spent on Sang Thip and ladies of questionable virtue (other than your prospective g/f). Work product may be outsourced to cheaper labour pool. Not responsible if your "prospective g/f" decides to dump you and go with me instead !)

Edited April 4, 2014 by Kerryd

[Mangkhut]

In any western country to accept money for sex will be considered prostitution. But in Thailand this is quite different. In Thailand its generelly not accepted for a girl to have sex with someone she isnt married to, or to have a one night stand, a short term relationship or similar. On the other hand - if the sex is payed for its much more likely accepted than if not. Thats the moral and etichs in Thailand.....

If I read you correctly, then most of the girls we interact with, are indeed prostitutes,

its just that some also have day jobs.

Mangkhut, Scarpolo and others. Afraid you are all slightly wrong.

Stop thinking all girls to be prostitutes. And stop being sad over it.

Above all do not mention 'Thai', morals and Ethics when talking about females, males and sex.

Accept one biological fact (I deliberately do not refer to many other factors that may be considered induced or simply result of brainwash).

The biological fact is: both men and women want sex - sometimes, for whatever reasons.

The crucial difference between genders is:

- men must have an erection;

- women do not need it.

This biological fact is the basis of all disparities, grudges, conflicts between the genders. Use your imagination or experiences to create all sorts of pictures.

Don't blame me - I haven't created this situation.

And stop bashing Thais for this. There are plenty of other more valid reasons.

Yeas you are probably correct that both men and women want sex now and then. But for a thai girl that are not married - it is not considered culturally and morally right to have sex - and thus most unmarried thai women will not have casual sex/one night stands etc even though she have sexual desires. You will of course find exceptions from this and times and moral and etichs are changing in Thailand as well as in other countries. But still - the main rule is as above mentioned....

I dont think that all girls are prostitutes, but Thailand has it fair share..... ;-)

[larsjohnsson]

She is just one of many thousend sexworkers that are online in dating sites to make money.

If you like to see a prostite, then meet her. If not then skip those dating sites. Most of them are worse than bargirls

[stickylies]

... university girls who do part-time prostitution. Not trying to imply anything but just stating a known information.

sure, and the same happens in the west. plenty of girls paying their studies with pussee. next pls.