Civil war possible, says Dusit Poll

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Civil war possible, says Dusit Poll



BANGKOK: -- Dusit Poll released its latest survey of the people across the country with the majority fearing civil war is possible under the current political impasse plagued with violence.

From a total 1,434 people it questioned about their thoughts on possible civil war from ongoing political conflicts and escalation of the protests in the country same as other countries, the majority of respondents or 68.55% believed the chance was high citing the growing use of lethal weapon in many places and is likely to escalate beyond government control.

But 24.81% were uncertain, saying the situation was hard to predict; and 6.64% thought the chance for civil war to happen was slim because the Thai people were unlikely to do harm to their own country and fellow Thais.

Asked recommendation they should suggest to prevent the political conflict from turning into civil war, 48.36% said the government and protesters should resort to holding talks while 22.74% said neither side should resort to using force and dangerous weapons.

However 14.79% said law enforcing soldiers and police must adhere to international standards in keeping the situation under control, and 13.93% said the people must not become a political tool of either side in the conflict.

On a question of the caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra now facing impeachment by independent organizations over several political issues, the majority of 44.60% wanted her to be impeached in a straightforward and fair manner.

But 34.53% wanted those considering impeachment on the prime minister to explain to the people for a better understanding of all issues involved, and 20.87% wanted to see the results of the examination and to know whether she had done anything wrong as alleged.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/civil-war-possible-says-dusit-poll/


-- Thai PBS 2014-04-07

[Somtamnication]

These polls are slow. CV has been in the books since 2006.

[londonthai]

it's rather political analysis which can point to civil war, than a poll - threat of a judicial and even military coup, 200 military bunkers around bangkok's city centre, fascistic tendencies emerging once again in a hard core priviliged class all against organised grass root opposition to the above mentioned threats.

I see this poll as yet another pin against yingluck, that's what all those polls mean

Edited April 7, 2014 by londonthai

[AleG]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

[stickylies]

there's something rotten here too long .... not the last 10 years ..... too long ..... what must be shall be.... no poll can predict the future of thailand .....

only think i know is that MANY people i know are getting seriously fed up with all kinds of things .......... people on BOTH sides ............

[Pib]

These polls are great. Are there chances of civil war in Thailand? Sure..it could happen in any country and has happened in most countries if they have a significant history under their belt like the U.S. and their American Civil War. I'm looking forward to the poll that gives the stats and recommendations on a comet hitting Thailand, World War 3 beginning in Thailand, Corruption Being Eradicated, and other "what if" events.

[PREM-R]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

[stickyrice2000]

I do not wish to see more deaths. Why can't both sides back up one step to move the country in the right direction? It is a simple solution, but it's all of because of pride. Please don't value your honor and pride over the loss of people lives.

[stickyrice2000]

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This kind of thinking is the cause of civil war.

[fatdrunkandstupid]

Not risk whatsoever. Zero....nada...zip...

Civil war requires planning and management skills.

[eeworldwide]

Yet another useless and completely unhelpful"poll".

What is the point of asking people if Civil War is likely or possible?

Civil War is "possible" anywhere in any country.

We could be asking better questions, questions that promote peace and good feeling, rather than going round this same old issue.

History shows us very plainly that the Thais have been behaving like this for years and years.

The problems in the current societies here in Thailand are rooted very firmly in GREED and lack of responsible education.

The real problem Thailand is going to face is a crashing economy which is GOING to happen sooner or later. Tourism has been badly damaged, and will continue being damaged until an equilibrium is reached.

There is a weakening of faith in Thailand from other members of the Asean community.

The country is showing itself to be hugely unreliable, dishonest and horribly corrupt.

We are caught in a vicious cycle. Nothing short of a coup will actually get us out of the rut we are in.

Once out, we will quickly descend into another.

Thailand is heading rapidly towards the exit sign.

[Samaaw]

"Thai people were unlikely to do harm to their ow country & fellow Thais"

Good one !! hahahahahahahahahaha

[GeckosDiving]

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She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck. alt=bah.gif width=19 height=19>

This kind of thinking is the cause of civil war.

Only a red shirt would think like that !! Truth hurts the only thing she's able to do and has done is cry when she screws up and that seems like every day she's been in office !!

[dude123]

If civll war is likely and I sincerely hope not, maybe the Thai's should really think about who's behind it all and not fall for it. Many surrounding countries would prosper economically from industry and tourist re-direction if war broke out, so if the media would think before writing and use some common sense approach to it all, Thailand could be steered into a very positive direction.

Edited April 7, 2014 by dude123

[GeckosDiving]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

Don't you mean she came in on the back of her run away convicted criminal camel jockey brother who bought all her votes for her !! and she will be leaving the same way her brother left as a criminal !!

Well done YL

[chainarong]

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She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck. alt=bah.gif width=19 height=19>

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

She also came in with no experience in politics and doing her brothers dirty work, what do you expect, the people are foolish for falling for such a sham.

[AleG]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

Suthep has nothing to do with Yingluck's cases, so that's one red herring right there. Then, what is not democratic about the courts applying the law? Or would rather have her above the law?

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She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck. alt=bah.gif width=19 height=19>

This kind of thinking is the cause of civil war.

How so?

[NongKhaiKid]

There's no doubt that serious civil unrest is possible especially with some of those running the show on both sides. The words ' civil war ' are being bandies around more than more and it's as if some are willing it to happen which would be disastrous.

Thailand should worry this could become a self fulfilling prophecy that may suit / benefit some but the nation as a whole suffers badly.

[tomhell]

Thank you so much for sharing your opinion. This is the best I red a long time in this forum.

The main reasons for suffering according to Lord Buddha are:

1. Greed (attachment to material things)

2. Hate/Dislike (violence - project my inner frustration to people outside)

3. Ignorance (living in illusion - dont understand the true nature of existence)

In this forum (country) are so many negative and frustrated people. Please understand, it´s very easy to see the mistakes just in other people . We are all in this together.

What this country (all countries) needs are more mindful leaders. (politicians). Not important if they

are royalist, nationalist, democrats, socialists, redshirts or whatever.

Not to difficult to understand but difficult to practice.

Working for the greater good. Not just for me,me, me

Be the change you want to see. Do good - be good

A balanced society, Benefit for all. This is my deep wish for Thailand.

Tom

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Yet another useless and completely unhelpful"poll".

What is the point of asking people if Civil War is likely or possible?

Civil War is "possible" anywhere in any country.

We could be asking better questions, questions that promote peace and good feeling, rather than going round this same old issue.

History shows us very plainly that the Thais have been behaving like this for years and years.

The problems in the current societies here in Thailand are rooted very firmly in GREED and lack of responsible education.

The real problem Thailand is going to face is a crashing economy which is GOING to happen sooner or later. Tourism has been badly damaged, and will continue being damaged until an equilibrium is reached.

There is a weakening of faith in Thailand from other members of the Asean community.

The country is showing itself to be hugely unreliable, dishonest and horribly corrupt.

We are caught in a vicious cycle. Nothing short of a coup will actually get us out of the rut we are in.

Once out, we will quickly descend into another.

Thailand is heading rapidly towards the exit sign.

[bigbamboo]

"Thai people were unlikely to do harm to their ow country & fellow Thais"

Good one !! hahahahahahahahahaha

Civil war will not happen here for two reasons.

Thais may not be the most politically perceptive people in the world but they aren't completely stupid and they know whoever wins it wouldn't benefit them.

And of course they have better things to do...... like earning, drinking and sleeping.... to waste their time helping the rich on either side get richer.

[ramrod711]

On a question of the caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra now facing impeachment by independent organizations over several political issues, the majority of 44.60% wanted her to be impeached in a straightforward and fair manner.

Let's give her a fair trial, <REMOVED>. Fine with me, the sooner the Shins and their hangers on are gone, the happier i'll be. The very best solution I have seen here from some posters is the banning of all current MPs for life, kind of like flushing the political toilet.

Edited April 7, 2014 by Rimmer
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[billd766]

"Thai people were unlikely to do harm to their ow country & fellow Thais"

Good one !! hahahahahahahahahaha

Civil war will not happen here for two reasons.

Thais may not be the most politically perceptive people in the world but they aren't completely stupid and they know whoever wins it wouldn't benefit them.

And of course they have better things to do...... like earning, drinking and sleeping.... to waste their time helping the rich on either side get richer.

I think that IF a civil war starts it will be limited and only in some areas.

Where I live in rural Thailand most of the Thais I talk to are fed up with ALL the politicians in Thailand. It used to be a fairly big Red Shirt area but nowhere near as big now since the rice farmers know they have been screwed and pretty much who screwed them.

IF the Democrats got their act together and supported the workers, farmers etc they could win a lot of support out here. It would mean dumping the old guard and Abhisit too and get some smart people in and they could improve their results out here.

[SoilSpoil]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

She raped lady Democracy! Suthep is just a reaction on her thieving bunch of relatives and cronies.

Action equals reaction, Amnesty for her brother (No.1) triggered by Somchai, Samak and now Yingluck led to anti-government sentiments.

[Soutpeel]

Not risk whatsoever. Zero....nada...zip...

Civil war requires planning and management skills.

Although your remark was flippant, and not that I think Thailand will collaspe into a full blown civil war, but it does raise an interesting question, lets suppose Thailand did collaspe into a full blown civil war, do TV's esteemed members have a get out of dodge plan ?, if it did happen whats your plan ?, do you stand to loose everything becasue you have your eggs all in one basket ?, If you had to could you leave at start a new life somewhere else ?

Think these aspects might be better discussion points on the topic of a Thai Civil war, rather than the typical..."Sutheps a facist, its all his fault you know"

[WoopyDoo]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

One might consider that a resignation and announcement for the reds to go home and allow the country to reconcile after an attempt at reform, may actually go down well for her.

But no......

Clinging to power and keeping the eyes off the books is her only objective... They know that once the accounts are scrutinized, there will be many scandals exposed. To an extent that will not only see Thaksin's final hopes of a return dwindle to nothing, but also YL and a good many others will also be forced on the run. ... including all the Shins.

[Robby nz]

"Thai people were unlikely to do harm to their ow country & fellow Thais"

Good one !! hahahahahahahahahaha

Civil war will not happen here for two reasons.

Thais may not be the most politically perceptive people in the world but they aren't completely stupid and they know whoever wins it wouldn't benefit them.

And of course they have better things to do...... like earning, drinking and sleeping.... to waste their time helping the rich on either side get richer.

You are right about the vast majority of people in this country, however there are those who will do whatever they are paid to do including kill and injure.

We see this now with the attacks on the protesters.

It will not take a great number of those who we are told are being recruited and trained to instigate terror attacks similar to what we see happening in the south.

Thaksin has been pushing for some time for the military to step in so he can scream coup and have an excuse to bring out his armed reds but now his advisors have managed to convince him it will not happen, so now the excuse has turned to judicial coup.

When the law runs its course and should Yingluck be convicted Thaksin will have his excuse and we see right now his paid red 'leaders' making none to veiled statements threatening violence against the courts the judges and checks and balances organisations should they hand down verdicts against Yingluck or PT.

This may not be a civil war in the true sense of the term but rather a campaign of terror and no doubt done in the name of democracy.

[Pimay1]

Not risk whatsoever. Zero....nada...zip...

Civil war requires planning and management skills.

Although your remark was flippant, and not that I think Thailand will collaspe into a full blown civil war, but it does raise an interesting question, lets suppose Thailand did collaspe into a full blown civil war, do TV's esteemed members have a get out of dodge plan ?, if it did happen whats your plan ?, do you stand to loose everything becasue you have your eggs all in one basket ?, If you had to could you leave at start a new life somewhere else ?

Think these aspects might be better discussion points on the topic of a Thai Civil war, rather than the typical..."Sutheps a facist, its all his fault you know"

Being one of TV's esteemed members, now that's a joke guys so don't start beating me up, if that did happen I would be hard pressed to leave for a new destination and start a new life. Not because of any financial or wife/girlfriend ties here but like a lot of you guys after living in quite a few Asian countries I just like it here. I don't buy land or build houses and put in other peoples name. I learned that lesson many years ago when I first came here. Once is enough. I did break down and buy my previous old girlfriend a second hand truck. When she passed away last May the family agreed to sell the truck and give me the money. Things are not as bad up here in the Esaan remote villages as one might think, other than the frigging Internet. As I have said before if you treat people with the same respect you want to be treated with and give the temple a few Baht every now and then you make friends and they are good friends, not fair weather friends. Of course if for some stupid reason these folks turned against foreigners and started shooting up the house I would have to reconsider. I would probably take the new old girlfriend, if she would go and ease over to Savannakhet or I would go by myself. But I don't see that happening here.

[FangFerang]

Rants and dirges aside, do a single one of you believe that Thaksin invented Thai corruption, Thai murder, Thai falsehoods and Thai human trafficking? Do a single one of you actually think Suthep is anything less than a deranged megalomaniac with delusions of godhood? Does anyone really believe only PTP members benefited from the rice pledging fiasco or any other dirty deed done dirt cheap here? I honestly think we are looking at one horse from two different angles, and calling one a gnarly oldmare and the other a thoroughbred -- which is plainly unintelligent.

Go ahead, wave your pommy poms for your chosen side, but this situation has been brewing for decades, and as one poster noted, the people are fed up with it all -- reds, browns, greens, blues and yellows. People are learning not to trust political parties, and they are not going to put up with anymore wholesale corruption or surrender their votes. Retail corruption, now well that's business as usual, and putting out policies that favor constituents is also an honored American and English tradition.

If every single Shinawatra left the country and never came back, nothing would change. If Suthep and every single one of his many clones perished simultaneously from sudden onset malaria, nothing would change.

We are watching history fold, not unfold, and we are watching a fledgling democracy destroyed by predation from two sides. If either side put one-tenth of their energy into growing infrastructure and education we would all see Thailand blossom like a flower, but instead all we see is a relentless legal assault perpetually launched by both sides, sapping the energy and resources from beneficial policy making, and nickel oo-yings, do-yings and none-yings out the yin yang posing for pictures and singing karaoke on TV.

[Local Drunk]

Not risk whatsoever. Zero....nada...zip...

Civil war requires planning and management skills.

Although your remark was flippant, and not that I think Thailand will collaspe into a full blown civil war, but it does raise an interesting question, lets suppose Thailand did collaspe into a full blown civil war, do TV's esteemed members have a get out of dodge plan ?, if it did happen whats your plan ?, do you stand to loose everything becasue you have your eggs all in one basket ?, If you had to could you leave at start a new life somewhere else ?

Think these aspects might be better discussion points on the topic of a Thai Civil war, rather than the typical..."Sutheps a facist, its all his fault you know"

A highly esteemed TV member swirls and sniffs his Bordeaux as he stares blankly into space. As he ponders his fate in an uncertain world, he suddenly raises an eyebrow and asks himself the question, "Do I have all of my bottles in the same basket?"

Edited April 7, 2014 by Local Drunk

[dezeure]

I've been staying this since the beginning of these protests. Reason I left that place and without any regrets as all I read is a straight forward way to Civil War... Lost land.