Govt raises legal questions over election of new speaker

[Lite Beer]

Govt raises legal questions over election of new speaker
Khanittha Thepphajorn,
Jeerapong Prasertpolkrung
The Sunday Nation

Niwattumrong

BANGKOK: -- Acting PM wants check, amid fears that Surachai may move to impeach Yingluck

The election on Friday night of Surachai Liengboonlertchai as the new Senate Speaker is still in question despite the majority of senators voting for him.

Acting Prime Minister Niwattumrong Boonsongpaisan said the government would have the Council of State study the law to see whether Surachai could take the post after the government did not put the selection of a new Senate Speaker on the agenda when submitting a Royal Decree to have the special Senate session for royal endorsement.

On Friday night, Surachai beat Jongrak Jutanont, who is supported by the pro-Pheu Thai camp, 96 to 51.

Pheu Thai deputy spokesman Anusorn Iamsa-ard said the party's legal team would investigate to see if anyone involved in the selection of the Senate Speaker had violated the law.

Pheu Thai legal expert Kanin Boonsuwan said Surachai had violated the law as he did not resign from the Deputy Senate Speaker post before running as a candidate for the Senate's top job.

Kanin also said it was unlawful for the Senate to have a meeting on the agenda out of a House session.

Appointed Senator Paiboon Nititawan, who is on the side of the anti-government protesters, said despite the new speaker being voted in, the government would try to stop the Senate from proceeding with the impeachment process against former Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra.

Yingluck was indicted by the National Anti-Corruption Commission in the rice-pledging scheme case on Thursday.

Paiboon referred to a Council of State comment that an impeachment process can occur outside a House session only after the Parliament president submits a royal decree.

After the House dissolution on December 9, the government has not has the numbers to form a quorum in the Lower House so the Senate is the only legislative institution at the moment.

The Parliament president, who is also House Speaker, and the Parliament vice president, who is also Senate Speaker, are positions that have been vacant. There has been speculation that Surachai now has the capacity to nominate an interim PM because of the political crisis.

Former Senate Speaker Nikom Wairatpanij's term ended in March. His role as caretaker Senate Speaker ended later that month after he was indicted by the NACC for allegedly amending the constitution illegally.

Surachai has scheduled a special Senate meeting for tomorrow to discuss finding a solution to the political impasse.

-- The Nation 2014-05-11

[Thai at Heart]

Why do they even bother?

[wolf5370]

Interesting - the so-called PM calls the new speaker invalid as it was not timetabled; at the same time the acting PM is put under question as there ois no remit to appoint a PM other than via election or via the Senate.

[noitom]

It's boring.

[Thait Spot]

Interesting - the so-called PM calls the new speaker invalid as it was not timetabled; at the same time the acting PM is put under question as there ois no remit to appoint a PM other than via election or via the Senate.

Exactly.

What a bizarre situation.

I wonder if this was the intention

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[sjjmmi]

Never ending plots

[wolf5370]

Interesting - the so-called PM calls the new speaker invalid as it was not timetabled; at the same time the acting PM is put under question as there ois no remit to appoint a PM other than via election or via the Senate.

Exactly.

What a bizarre situation.

I wonder if this was the intention

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Probably - possibly a move to try and invalidate any call for the senate to elect a new PM (assuming the EC state they can't provide for a fair and safe election). Wheels within wheels.

[tezzainoz]

If we produced a movie on all this it would be classifies as FICTION

there will be some vert wealthy Lawyers at then of all this

I have said in the past, its the moves that PTP plan and make they give Suthep the fuel to keep going

If Yingluck had resigned when she was advised to, Suthep would have run out of go by now

[Piichai]

Acting PM wants check, amid fears that Surachai may move to impeach Yingluck

I suppose the acting PM would rather have an election, and *then* convict her thus removing her from office again.

One wonders what these people use instead of brains.

[Piichai]

Considering the 96 to 51 victory of Surachai, the chances are pretty good that Yingluck will be convicted.

PTP could win points by acting contrite, but instead they bluster.

So shameful to watch.

[chotthee]

If the new speaker is from Thaksin, I am sure exactly the same law mentioned above will be used to boot him out.

But it is the other way round, so it is perfectly OK.

[smedly]

F^F^S^ seriously - the people are fed up with this bull

If you could ever right a script for the mother of TV shows about political lunacy you couldn't get better than Thailand right out of the box, if it wasn't so serious it would be funny

This man thinks he's the Caretaker PM lol

Edited May 11, 2014 by smedly

[Artisi]

If the new speaker is from Thaksin, I am sure exactly the same law mentioned above will be used to boot him out.

But it is the other way round, so it is perfectly OK.

No no no, it is just PTP running scared that the ex-clone will get the big chop from the Senate.

[jayjayjayjay]

Let's see shit really hit the fan as Surachai appoints Suthep.. 55555555555555

[ginjag]

Whoever is elected in any position that is not connected to PTP -it is invalid, if any court has members that are not connected to PTP and convict it is a judicial coup, anyone dares to intervene with the PTP they are fascists, any anti gov posters comments are jumped on straight away as anti democratic.

Do any other posters see the trend.??? it means towing the PTP lines or else, we bring in DADS ARMY (the red one as the others are professional)

[geriatrickid]

It is a valid legal question and should be addressed. If it has no legal basis, then it will not proceed any further. I do note that the majority of votes came from Senators who were appointed by the former military dictatorship and Abhisit administration. That does cause a bit of a stench.

[Robby nz]

When I read the headline the first question that came to mind was "What Government"

The country hasnt got a government just the few remaining caretaker cabinet ministers who in reality have no power to do anything.

The only part of a government that is in place at present is the senate and with the senate elections completed and the elected senators in place, along with the appointed senators who have yet to finish their 6 year term, they are a legal entity.

[Prbkk]

Considering the 96 to 51 victory of Surachai, the chances are pretty good that Yingluck will be convicted.

PTP could win points by acting contrite, but instead they bluster.

So shameful to watch.

No, what is genuinely shameful to watch is the conga line of TV suckholes endorsing the illegitimate overthrow of democracy

[ginjag]

Considering the 96 to 51 victory of Surachai, the chances are pretty good that Yingluck will be convicted.

PTP could win points by acting contrite, but instead they bluster.

So shameful to watch.

No, what is genuinely shameful to watch is the conga line of TV suckholes endorsing the illegitimate overthrow of democracy

What a ridiculous post---What democracy ??? democratically elected maybe BUT democratically governed NO WAY.

If you call the PTP and it's 3 years of non achievements and antics democratic--that has to be a mega joke or a complete wind up.

Whether you like them or not the fact is they self destructed big time in their governance. Be a bit more honest and do inform all about their super democratic governing by pointing out their fantastic forward steps from 2012 13 14 ??? (were their no abnormal decisions made?? did they flout the law???)

[Rob8891]

Considering the 96 to 51 victory of Surachai, the chances are pretty good that Yingluck will be convicted.

PTP could win points by acting contrite, but instead they bluster.

So shameful to watch.

No, what is genuinely shameful to watch is the conga line of TV suckholes endorsing the illegitimate overthrow of democracy

Some posters have such a quaint turn of phrase. Such name-calling is usually indicative of a lack of cogent argument, so rather than denigrate others (and yourself in the process) maybe it would be a good idea to sit by and watch.

Posters will know that you are one of the Thaksinistas, and as such your post totally ignores the fact that nepotism and corruption have been the name of the game for far too long, and especially under k. Yingluck. She got (some of) what she deserved, but that does not imply that all the dirty washing has Shin DNA in it. There is the stink of rampant corruption on both sides of the divide.

Anyone thinking with even a smidgeon of intelligence will see that reforms are necessary to try to get Thailand out of the mire into which it is fast disappearing. Reformsdoes not mean those not led by Suthep, as he is clearly barking mad and is acting way outside the law, for which he must pay, but reforms led by an experienced and non corrupt cross-section of the political arena, which should exclude anyone facing (or fleeing from) criminal charges, those who are currently banned from politics and anyone of any persuasion who is clearly and closely linked to either of the main protagonists.

Then, and only then, might Thailand lumber and lurch, like a baby taking its first steps, towards a freer and fairer election.

So there you are, Prbkk. Not one wee swearie word, not one 'red kwai' insult. Just a post trying to make a point or two. Not too hard, was it? On you go, see how well you can do.

[Thait Spot]

It is a valid legal question and should be addressed. If it has no legal basis, then it will not proceed any further. I do note that the majority of votes came from Senators who were appointed by the former military dictatorship and Abhisit administration. That does cause a bit of a stench.

And if that then prompts questions about the legitimacy of Mr. Short time Poly Syllable's selection as temporary, interim, stand-in, substitute, acting , caretaker prime minister that ultimately leads to the political vacuum that some desire, dies that therefore leave us in a status of som nam na that you will accept?

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[robblok]

Considering the 96 to 51 victory of Surachai, the chances are pretty good that Yingluck will be convicted.

PTP could win points by acting contrite, but instead they bluster.

So shameful to watch.

Great seems curtains for YL seems the Dems finally have some power in the senate.

Bit by bit the evil dictatorship is being broken down. Good will triumph over corruption and evil.

[Piichai]

Considering the 96 to 51 victory of Surachai, the chances are pretty good that Yingluck will be convicted.

PTP could win points by acting contrite, but instead they bluster.

So shameful to watch.

No, what is genuinely shameful to watch is the conga line of TV suckholes endorsing the illegitimate overthrow of democracy

Until all can canvass without fear of intimidation, there is no democracy.

[WoopyDoo]

It is a valid legal question and should be addressed. If it has no legal basis, then it will not proceed any further. I do note that the majority of votes came from Senators who were appointed by the former military dictatorship and Abhisit administration. That does cause a bit of a stench.

Ahhh right...

So you have the list of who voted for who?

Good, so we can see exactly which ones voted where and who they are alligned with and whether they were appointed or elected..... Any chance you can share the data, as I have never seen such details that not even the 150 senators have access to. You must be very well connected. I am amazed how the red camp always seem to have access to 'facts' that nobody else is privy to.

Personally I used to think that they just made things up to give their posts a bit of credibility, such as know that all attacks on PDRC are other PDRC supporters etc....

Would be nice if we could all have access to the same facts, but seems you first have to support the government for this secret info perk.

On a different note..... The 'so called' acting PM shouldn't be throwing stones from his very fragile glass house. His own position and how he acquired it is also very questionable, and a hell of a lot more shaky than the election of a senate speaker which was a lot more democratic than his own appointment.

I will give this a week. and YL will be impeached and also this jerk removed from office, and senate proceedings started to appoint a new PM and cabinet. I can see the senate seeking an extension to their session via royal decree and I don't doubt for a minute that they will get it.

It seems that if anything the PTP are attempting to create a political vacuum with their blocking of this and that...... If the country is to move forward at all... It is becoming increasing clear that the rest of these idiots need to be replaced, and only then can they hope for improvement.

Edited May 11, 2014 by WoopyDoo

[fab4]

Considering the 96 to 51 victory of Surachai, the chances are pretty good that Yingluck will be convicted.

PTP could win points by acting contrite, but instead they bluster.

So shameful to watch.

No, what is genuinely shameful to watch is the conga line of TV suckholes endorsing the illegitimate overthrow of democracy

Until all can canvass without fear of intimidation, there is no democracy.

Oh that canvassing thing again. Any luck with some details I asked for in the other thread? Rather than you just blithely saying that Democrat Party canvassers were murdered and beaten up in the North. I gave you links to what I could find, any chance of you doing the same?

Or is it the usual scattergun accusation approach in the hope that it will be believed, so beloved of certain posters on here.

Edited May 11, 2014 by fab4

[h90]

Considering the 96 to 51 victory of Surachai, the chances are pretty good that Yingluck will be convicted.

PTP could win points by acting contrite, but instead they bluster.

So shameful to watch.

Great seems curtains for YL seems the Dems finally have some power in the senate.

Bit by bit the evil dictatorship is being broken down. Good will triumph over corruption and evil.

I don't think the Dems got some power....I think the common sense got some power.

[robblok]

Considering the 96 to 51 victory of Surachai, the chances are pretty good that Yingluck will be convicted.

PTP could win points by acting contrite, but instead they bluster.

So shameful to watch.

Great seems curtains for YL seems the Dems finally have some power in the senate.

Bit by bit the evil dictatorship is being broken down. Good will triumph over corruption and evil.

I don't think the Dems got some power....I think the common sense got some power.

Also an option of course.. I always thought senators would vote for what party they support no matter if it was right or wrong.. at least it went that way before.

[bigbamboo]

"Acting PM wants check".

Well at least the new leader seems to know the form.

[GeckosDiving]

Considering the 96 to 51 victory of Surachai, the chances are pretty good that Yingluck will be convicted.

PTP could win points by acting contrite, but instead they bluster.

So shameful to watch.

No, what is genuinely shameful to watch is the conga line of TV suckholes endorsing the illegitimate overthrow of democracy

No what really really is shemeful and never ending stink is your always boring red buffalo posts that's what shameful

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[MaxLee]

Interesting - the so-called PM calls the new speaker invalid as it was not timetabled; at the same time the acting PM is put under question as there ois no remit to appoint a PM other than via election or via the Senate.

The so called PM is the same rotten crook and commander of Thaksin's rice pledging scam, isn't he?

So no wonder that the show goes on...