Thaksin rejects Prayuth's proposal to have caretaker govt resign

[AsterixThai]

Peut-être en réponse Gen Prayuth peut enfin révoquer le passeport de Thaksin et obtenir un «mandat rouge" internationale pour l'arrestation de Thaksin délivré afin que interpol agira, le traquer et arrêter.

YES YES

[hansnl]

Ahhhh the truth of Democratic PTP

. Me me me.

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But at least kind of honest.

The only time one can seriously use "Shinawartra" and "honest" in the same sentence is when "dis" comes between the two.

It almost beggars belief that this man still pushes for amnesty. It shows his complete and utter contempt for Thailand and the Thai people. A truly self-centered sociopath.

Whilst on the other side of the coin, Suthep is being equally intransigent, digging his heels in and not making any compromise. With these two dunderheids, what hope is there of a positive outcome from the talks?

76 billion reasons make a great reason for pushing for amnesty.

[Arjay]

Seems Thaksin didn't understand the ultimatum he was given. His counter proposal of blanket amnesty was what started this whole mess. Now General Prayuth has spoken and it's coup d'estat! T.I.T. This is Thailand...

[Chris Lawrence]

I thought the General was there to mediate between the warring factions, and be impartial? ...seems more like he's asking for the same things that Suthep has been asking for all along?

It doesn't seem like the General is not going to get everything his own way at all, there seems very little in terms of "compromise" there?

There's no doubt the writing is on the wall for the PTP and the caretaker Government, they're still kicking and screaming and holding on, it's going to be a very brave man to stand up and tell them, resign with effect immediately or we will simply remove you, and put someone in, in your place... but it's not a coup!!

it's the irresistible force against the immovable object at the moment.

Maybe that would suggest to an intelligent person that perhaps what Suthep was asking for was actually quite reasonable. ~Suthep's MAIN request is for Shinawatras to stay out of Thai politics. Maybe...just maybe the penny could drop now that THAT is what EVERYONE wants except the ones paid, threatened and bullied by the Dubai fugitive. Thaksin Dictatorship IS far WORSE and far more removed from democracy than martial law!!

Posts like yours criticising the Armys actions are proof that red sorts want POWER and handouts NOT peace and Democracy. Its worth fighting and imposing laws to stop them getting those things in a DEMOCRATIC country!~!!

I thought the Fat was just stating the fact?

I wonder how the General marked the homework?

Do you remeber the smiling faces of the peopel at the meeting. But we didn't see the little guy under the table with the gun.

Suthep looks as though he has swallowed the canary; do you think he may be being set up.

A hanging always brings people together or assanation?

The course for Thailand has been mapped out by others maybe weeks or months ago. Sutheps antics have only played for time.

Which dictator do you think will be better at the job. One that wanted to dismantle the hold of the elite or the one that wants the upper echelons to maintain power and control?

Sounds like a really good Thai soap.

The General has a tuff job ahead.

[rubl]

Three amazing events in one short article.

1) What is Thaksin doing chiming in now? Talking about audacity – claiming this is not a remote control party and then unilatreally making the decisions for them?

2) They said Wednesday that General P was a non-involved mediator, and now they reveal he 'suggested' three solutions – claiming impartiality and then suggesting everyone do what fascist Suthep demands?.

3) The Jutaporn conviction on defamation was the most crazy, not because I like Jutaporn, but because the 'defamatory accusations' he made against Abhisit are yet to be settled in a court case against Abhisit that has never been processed. It's like saying "Well, you are guilty of false accusations, even though the truth of those accusations is yet to be determined." There is no valid logic that can make sense of that decision, no matter who you like.

All sides are lying through their teeth and hoping no one notices.

Regarding 2. the general didn't suggest to do what k. Suthep wants. That's just your interpretation.

Regarding 3. in January/February 2010 Jatuporn accused Abhisit of ordering the killing of red-shirts. Jatuporn cannot prove that accusation, therefor under Thai law he has defamed Abhisit.

That leaves us with "why indeed did Thaksin allegedly chime in"?

[rubl]

I thought the General was there to mediate between the warring factions, and be impartial? ...seems more like he's asking for the same things that Suthep has been asking for all along?

It doesn't seem like the General is not going to get everything his own way at all, there seems very little in terms of "compromise" there?

There's no doubt the writing is on the wall for the PTP and the caretaker Government, they're still kicking and screaming and holding on, it's going to be a very brave man to stand up and tell them, resign with effect immediately or we will simply remove you, and put someone in, in your place... but it's not a coup!!

it's the irresistible force against the immovable object at the moment.

Maybe that would suggest to an intelligent person that perhaps what Suthep was asking for was actually quite reasonable. ~Suthep's MAIN request is for Shinawatras to stay out of Thai politics. Maybe...just maybe the penny could drop now that THAT is what EVERYONE wants except the ones paid, threatened and bullied by the Dubai fugitive. Thaksin Dictatorship IS far WORSE and far more removed from democracy than martial law!!

Posts like yours criticising the Armys actions are proof that red sorts want POWER and handouts NOT peace and Democracy. Its worth fighting and imposing laws to stop them getting those things in a DEMOCRATIC country!~!!

I thought the Fat was just stating the fact?

I wonder how the General marked the homework?

Do you remeber the smiling faces of the peopel at the meeting. But we didn't see the little guy under the table with the gun.

Suthep looks as though he has swallowed the canary; do you think he may be being set up.

A hanging always brings people together or assanation?

The course for Thailand has been mapped out by others maybe weeks or months ago. Sutheps antics have only played for time.

Which dictator do you think will be better at the job. One that wanted to dismantle the hold of the elite or the one that wants the upper echelons to maintain power and control?

Sounds like a really good Thai soap.

The General has a tuff job ahead.

This will only work if reforms can be made to ensure Thai are equal by law and effectively. AND when those reforms can be made binding, enforcible.

Both the corrupt Pheu Thai with it's stronghold on the poor and the old guards in the PDRC need to step down, relinquish control and keep out of politics. That means a.o. that Suthep may not have much time for his victory party as he can't be part of the 'after reforms' situation. Of course also the Shinawatras are out, and Banharn, Newin, and many others.

The problem maybe to find new, young blood not tainted by their fathers' sins.

[h90]

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Is google getting sarcastic?

[givenall]

Thaksin rejects Prayuth's proposal to have caretaker govt resign

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra rejected the proposal by Army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha that the Pheu Thai-led caretaker government resign, a Pheu Thai source said on Thursday.

The source said Prayuth came up with three proposals during the seven-partite meeting on Wednesday. First, he proposed that a caretaker Cabinet to resign, secondly that an interim government be formed and thirdly, that both the red-shirt movement and the People's Democratic Reform Committee end their rallies, according to the source.

The Pheu Thai representatives duly informed Thaksin of the proposals but he rejected them all and told Pheu Thai to fight to the full extent possible within the legal framework.

The source said Thaksin counter-proposed that the Army should instead arrange for blanket amnesty for all sides and the Shinawatra family would wash its hands of politics.

The source said Thaksin would also campaign to step up pressure on the Army to have the next election held as soon as possible.

-- The Nation 2014-05-22

loo

So where. Is Thaksin now. He should come back now;-) ;-)

Too bad all the money he spent is gone. But all his so called friends richer now.

[JesseFrank]

This is not about my brother, it's me who is prime minister.

I haven't talked to my brother lately

My brother is not ruling PTP .

I don't cling to power

[ramrod711]

Thaksin rejects Prayuth's proposal to have caretaker govt resign

Yingluck is not my puppet, I am her caddie, she is in charge. I'm not sure I believe that, it may be a misrepresentation of the facts.

[kingstonkid]

Perhaps in response Gen Prayuth can now finally revoke Thaksin's passport and get an international 'red warrant' for Thaksin's arrest issued so that interpol will act, track him down and arrest him.

International 'red warrant' for Thaksin's arrest issued so that interpol... this should have happened years ago. Often wondered why the Democrats did not do it when they were in power. Perhaps they considered that things would be quieter with him out of the country rather then sitting in a prison cell.

The reason that they do not want to issue the warrant is if he is caught he has to come back here to go to prison. Can you imagine how much of a circus that would be.

[Mister Fixit]

Perhaps in response Gen Prayuth can now finally revoke Thaksin's passport and get an international 'red warrant' for Thaksin's arrest issued so that interpol will act, track him down and arrest him.

Interpol will never act to arrest somebody who is wanted on trumped up politically motivated charges.

What politically motivated charges?

Thaksin was convicted in a court of law in a proper manner, skedaddled before he could do time (or pay his debt to the society he'd screwed) and is a wanted man.

The fact that no-one in the inept DSI could write an international arrest warrant in English is not only jaw-droppingly abysmal, but also equally incompetent and demonstrates complete uneducated ignorance on the part of the entire department.

They should have sent it to me, I'd have done it in less than an hour - free.

[outsider]

Shows Khun Thaksin is still firmly in charge, despite all the spins about how he's not.

[Mister Fixit]

And isn't this the same man who quit politics after the last coup?

Can you trust him not to come back again?

Can you trust the Army repeatingly saying it is not a coup? It IS a coup de facto.

No, it is a de facto coup d'etat ...

[LuckyLew]

More proof that all PTP are puppets to the hugew a hole in dubau

Would be fantastic if the military did decide to revoke his Thai passport and issue an interpol arrest warrant

Would be sweet as it gets to see him in cuffs getting off a plane in Bkk

Comon Prayuth ... do it

[djjamie]

That didn't take long did it - a complete "article" based on the alleged revelations of an unnamed source. Mention Thaksin to wind everybody up and let it fly

Why say tha……..

Ohhhh, you want to believe that thaksin is not really the boss of the PTP..

Ok guys…..This is a fake news story. Fake…Nothing to see here. Nothing to see...

An unelected, accused terrorist, accused mass murderer convicted criminal fugitive is not really running the PTP.

Move on. Fake story...

[Bangmod]

So if there is anyone to blame for the coup, it's Thaksin

[ggt]

I smell amnesty...for Thaksin...! Why else...would a convicted felon...on the run...be allowed to voice an opinion on current politics....?

[cnxdefyer]

The source said Thaksin counter-proposed that the Army should instead arrange for blanket amnesty for all sides and the Shinawatra family would wash its hands of politics.

Amnesty is not needed in order to wash your hands of politics..Takki!! It can be done without amnesty as well, maybe even better.

He must be tired of Middle Eastern food. Just think, all this trouble just to come home. I hope he is prohibited from ever coming back.

[bristolgeoff]

trying to cover himself and friend s over this,now he may have too to look over his shoulder along with a few others.the long arm of the law may catch him soon

[millwall_fan]

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What the <deleted> has this got to do with Thaksin? Since when does he/should be get a say in anything?

If he actually IS the one pulling the strings behind Pheu Thai and Yingluck (which up until recently they have vehemently denied), then there is a strong case for dissolving the party for election fraud as HE wasn't on the party list.

Because, like it or not, he has been headline news since 1999. Firstly as PM, then as the overthrown exiled PM. Like it or not, he is part of the equation. Still popular with the masses for what he gave them, there will never be peace here without the RE making peace with him.

[valvenus]

The source said Thaksin counter-proposed that the Army should instead arrange for blanket amnesty for all sides and the Shinawatra family would wash its hands of politics.

Amnesty is not needed in order to wash your hands of politics..Takki!! It can be done without amnesty as well, maybe even better.

He must be tired of Middle Eastern food. Just think, all this trouble just to come home. I hope he is prohibited from ever coming back.

You're right, he doesn't seem too thrilled with it.

[Rorri]

Ah Thailand, the only place, I know of, where an on the run fugitive can tell an Army coup leader he rejects his proposals. Come back, to Thailand Thaksin, be brave, and stand by those who support you.

[ratcatcher]

The source said Thaksin counter-proposed that the Army should instead arrange for blanket amnesty for all sides and the Shinawatra family would wash its hands of politics.

Amnesty is not needed in order to wash your hands of politics..Takki!! It can be done without amnesty as well, maybe even better.

He must be tired of Middle Eastern food. Just think, all this trouble just to come home. I hope he is prohibited from ever coming back.

You're right, he doesn't seem too thrilled with it.

I love that picture. Thaksin's expression as he looks at the goat and thinks "This could be me"

[Credo]

More proof that all PTP are puppets to the hugew a hole in dubau

Would be fantastic if the military did decide to revoke his Thai passport and issue an interpol arrest warrant

Would be sweet as it gets to see him in cuffs getting off a plane in Bkk

Comon Prayuth ... do it

Thailand doesn't issue an interpol arrest warrant, interpol issues the arrest warrant. I believe interpol has been consulted about this in the past and for some reason an arrest warrant was never issued.

Getting rid of his Thai passport will do little. He has other passports and nationalities.

[Baerboxer]

Perhaps in response Gen Prayuth can now finally revoke Thaksin's passport and get an international 'red warrant' for Thaksin's arrest issued so that interpol will act, track him down and arrest him.

Interpol will never act to arrest somebody who is wanted on trumped up politically motivated charges.

He's not wanted on trumped up charges. He's been convicted and chose to flee rather than even appeal. The other 15 outstanding charges don't seem trumped up either.

Interpol may not agree with you claim to know better.

[rebelplatoon]

Well, at least it's clear who's in charge of both PTP and the Government.

[Artisi]

More proof that all PTP are puppets to the hugew a hole in dubau

Would be fantastic if the military did decide to revoke his Thai passport and issue an interpol arrest warrant

Would be sweet as it gets to see him in cuffs getting off a plane in Bkk

Comon Prayuth ... do it

Thailand doesn't issue an interpol arrest warrant, interpol issues the arrest warrant. I believe interpol has been consulted about this in the past and for some reason an arrest warrant was never issued.

Getting rid of his Thai passport will do little. He has other passports and nationalities.

You can bet this Thai passport has somehow been mislaid and he is now on some other 3rd world passport sporting a Chalerm inspired disguise and frantically looking for a rock to crawl under well away from Thailand's extradition treaties.

[Artisi]

Ah Thailand, the only place, I know of, where an on the run fugitive can tell an Army coup leader he rejects his proposals. Come back, to Thailand Thaksin, be brave, and stand by those who support you.

Well it certainly seems to have had some effect today - probably one of the final straws in bringing on the full-blown coup

Edited May 22, 2014 by Artisi

[Artisi]

And isn't this the same man who quit politics after the last coup?

Can you trust him not to come back again?

Can you trust the Army repeatingly saying it is not a coup? It IS a coup de facto.

No, it is a de facto coup d'etat ...

More like a Clayton's coup.

Wiki.

"Claytons is the brand name of a non-alcoholic, non-carbonated beverage coloured and packaged to resemble bottled whisky. It was the subject of a major marketing campaign in Australia and New Zealand in the 1970s and 1980s, promoting it as "the drink you have when you're not having a drink" at a time when alcohol was being targeted as a major factor in the road toll. The jingle was written by Australian social satirist, John McKellar.^[1]

Although the product is no longer being actively marketed, the name has entered into Australian and New Zealand vernacular where it represents a "poor substitute" or "an ineffective solution to a problem". It can also be used to describe something that is effectively in existence but does not take the appropriate name, e.g. a common-law couple might be described as having a "Claytons marriage"."