International community slams coup

[love1012]

So not only do the yellows on here support a coup they take the opportunity off a bit of good old fashion thai bashing

You should be condemning dictatorship Not condoning it!

we are condoning a future dictatorship....a criminal one....thats why were not red!!!

[thailiketoo]

Given the International Community's track record, I'd say the military can pretty much ignore any hot air coming from that direction and do what is best for Thailand.

Can you think of any country where the military of that country has done what is best for the country?

[culicine]

Anyone who does not live here really do not have a clue what is going on. Foreign countries should really keep their noses out of others' business. The US is not the world's police force. How well is Iraq doing under their US form of democracy. I'm sure Prayuth is crying in his leo over 10M loss of military support. I left the West to escape Big Brother and the thought police. They can keep out of Thai affairs. Only Thais can fix their problems and don't need any outside advice.

[In Town]

You know what they all can't be wrong.

Take note of the overwhelming cry for democracy and elections ASAP.

It's about time that the elite yellows will just have accept the will of the thai people and not spit the dummy every time they get rolled at elections.

We all know the PTP will win in a landslide so the yellows should be asking themselves what can we do win over the people.

The coup is costing the Thais a lot of money and future possible investment and maybe soon even lives.

In a fair election with democrats standing in the north on equal terms they would be very close even with Thaksins bribery and corruption. But democrats are not allowed to stand - funny how the international community doesn't comment on that - do all countries in the west take their orders from Thaksin?

Maybe if they were invited over to witness peaceful men women and children protestors being blown up and shot on a daily basis they'd change their minds!!

Was it not the Democrats that prevented candidates from registering and voters from voting? Am I missing something?

[stickyrice2000]

Great, this site is now being monitored. The comments made against the Junta were removed. You see comments that are pro coup. LOL

[ggt]

What are the world's options...say nothing (not going to happen)...say...good for you Thailand...another military coup...(not)...so they have to say they are disappointed in the military taking over the gov't...but truth be know...they do not really give a shXt...

[mojorison]

yep and the Americans historically have done the region so much good , i' m thinking korea, vietnam, I' m sure they'll be sorely missed.

Oh don't forget WW2... you know the big one... that we (the good guys?) won. Really screwed that one up didn't we. You'd have bad words regardless because you are one-eyed anti-american... yet you are too ignorant to even see the alternatives. Sure Vietnam was a cock up, and that has been generally acknowledged. If there was no allied presence in the region, the region would not exist today, and you would not be sitting on your bar stool pontificating. Pol Pot, the SLORC and with some luck the Nth Korean loser will have all fallen because of western (primarily american) influence. Plus we are not run by the Chinese today, and in 1945, Russia did not set the standard for the new world order. So hate all you like. (I am not american BTW)

[Evilbaz]

No rice money from Jingluck - no vote.

No Kamnam slush fund - no vote.

Rural Isaan maybe uneducated but they're not dumb - just in hock to "the Chinese lady".

All their children outworkers sending most of their wages back home because someone stole the rice money - no vote

The Isaan bloc is no longer a Red given - maybe not enough change to cause more than a reduction in the majority - wasn't it less than 50% ?

Change can sometimes be infectious.

[SOTIRIOS]

......B.S.........

....how many countries have been decimated.....by these same......'objectors'.......

[FangFerang]

You know what they all can't be wrong.

Take note of the overwhelming cry for democracy and elections ASAP.

It's about time that the elite yellows will just have accept the will of the thai people and not spit the dummy every time they get rolled at elections.

We all know the PTP will win in a landslide so the yellows should be asking themselves what can we do win over the people.

The coup is costing the Thais a lot of money and future possible investment and maybe soon even lives.

after a massive reform, PTP will be history in the minds of Thais ...

You are living in a dream state. Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them. The cycle is perpetuated, not stopped by a coup.

[belg]

is there another banana republic except in africa, that has seen more military coups ?

time for the US to invade here, just need a good excuse ?

free the 200.000 forced prostitutes ?

[BigRick]

yep and the Americans historically have done the region so much good , i' m thinking korea, vietnam, I' m sure they'll be sorely missed.

Thank you Will Durant for that cutting historical observation. A. Korea was almost overrun by north Korea 98% it was a UN action that the US had to be involved in. Looks like the side we helped benefited greatly from our intervention North Korea not so much. B. Vietnam happened because of France a European power who lost its grasp on French Indochina. Vietnam was a bad foreign policy based upon the wrong assumption of China taking over(Vietnamese 3 China 1). I lived in Vietnam trust me the US had the chance to support Ho Chi Minh and not turn it into the custer F it was. But thanks to Europe we got involved in a place we should not have been. Living there you get to meet all kinds of people most of them are far from anti-American(That seems to be the realm of Europeans now). I had a GF whos great uncle was a war hero for the North I was invited to his home and treated with great kindness. He asked me one question "Why would America support France, We just want to be Vietnamese Not French Vietnamese only Vietnamese". Our good vs European good I think ours was a lot more just. How many European countries treated this part of the world as a resource factory of inferior people?

[chainarong]

To Everybody in Australia , don't take any notice of what One term Tony and he's cronies have to say, come on over , Thailand is still the same as it ever was , you never know you might even get a ride in a Tank.

[badgerbailey]

You know what they all can't be wrong.

Take note of the overwhelming cry for democracy and elections ASAP.

It's about time that the elite yellows will just have accept the will of the thai people and not spit the dummy every time they get rolled at elections.

We all know the PTP will win in a landslide so the yellows should be asking themselves what can we do win over the people.

The coup is costing the Thais a lot of money and future possible investment and maybe soon even lives.

In a fair election with democrats standing in the north on equal terms they would be very close even with Thaksins bribery and corruption. But democrats are not allowed to stand - funny how the international community doesn't comment on that - do all countries in the west take their orders from Thaksin?

Maybe if they were invited over to witness peaceful men women and children protestors being blown up and shot on a daily basis they'd change their minds!!

Have you ever been to the south? only difference is that the dems pay 2000 baht not 500 through their bribery and corruption, and if you think it doesn't happen you are completely wrong, i've seen it with my own eyes.

[stickyrice2000]

US should consider imposing higher tariffs on Thai export products to show their stand on disagreeing with the coup.

[VegasVic]

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Every developed country in the world and the majority of the country know what's happening. It's basically the entire world versus the Bangkok elites on this issue.

You are correct michael Should this military takeover continue through the summer without the hope for free elections at least by this fall then Thailand could not only face a disasterous tourist season next winter, but business sanctions from the United Nations and other individual countries as well. This is all in addition to the drying up of any international investment in the Kingdom as well as foreign investors pulling the plug on current projects and bailing on Thai stocks One bleak future possibility for Thailand would be that it becomes reliant primarily on China and gets thrust back into third world status as a vassel state of China. I think that some of these generals are looking at each other right now and asking "what the hell did we get ourselves into here"?

[VegasVic]

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yep and the Americans historically have done the region so much good , i' m thinking korea, vietnam, I' m sure they'll be sorely missed.

Thank you Will Durant for that cutting historical observation. A. Korea was almost overrun by north Korea 98% it was a UN action that the US had to be involved in. Looks like the side we helped benefited greatly from our intervention North Korea not so much. B. Vietnam happened because of France a European power who lost its grasp on French Indochina. Vietnam was a bad foreign policy based upon the wrong assumption of China taking over(Vietnamese 3 China 1). I lived in Vietnam trust me the US had the chance to support Ho Chi Minh and not turn it into the custer F it was. But thanks to Europe we got involved in a place we should not have been. Living there you get to meet all kinds of people most of them are far from anti-American(That seems to be the realm of Europeans now). I had a GF whos great uncle was a war hero for the North I was invited to his home and treated with great kindness. He asked me one question "Why would America support France, We just want to be Vietnamese Not French Vietnamese only Vietnamese". Our good vs European good I think ours was a lot more just. How many European countries treated this part of the world as a resource factory of inferior people?

Spot on Bigrick, outstanding post

[VegasVic]

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You know what they all can't be wrong.

Take note of the overwhelming cry for democracy and elections ASAP.

It's about time that the elite yellows will just have accept the will of the thai people and not spit the dummy every time they get rolled at elections.

We all know the PTP will win in a landslide so the yellows should be asking themselves what can we do win over the people.

The coup is costing the Thais a lot of money and future possible investment and maybe soon even lives.

after a massive reform, PTP will be history in the minds of Thais ...

You are living in a dream state. Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them. The cycle is perpetuated, not stopped by a coup.

This entire exercise reminds me of Albert Einsteins famous definition of Insanity " doing the same thing over and over again and expecting to get different results" The PTP will of course win by a landslide again and again, and the Generals know this that is why they have preformed this takeover and suspended the Thai Constitution, a Constitution that they themselves "tweaked" just 6-7 years ago themselves The will of the Thai people will win out in the end, however it is up to the military leaders just how bloody things get in the interim period . The world is watching with interest this time around

[timewilltell]

The 'international community' are concerned for themselves and the potential for instability in a key ally in the region. I do not think the protestations have much to do with an overwhelming desire for democracy.

Added to which I doubt that many countries have a true understanding of what is going on here nor do they care further than how it benefits them.

As for Thailand, how can you have democracy when free speech is so hampered. If you know there is corruption you dare not speak out for fear of reprisal or imprisonment. The lese majeste law is not just used to shield the monarchy, for which there should at least be respect whatever your affiliation, but it is used also as a political tool which does not sit well with democratic principles. Then there is the defamation laws which prevent people exposing pretty much anything whether true or not for fear of criminal court proceedings. That does not promote free speech and is so much more draconian than simply protecting innocent people from public attack.

Thailand is a country surrounded in mystery, not because it is mysterious but because the truth is hidden in every quarter, it is a Thai trait that the truth should never be plainly stated but must be shrouded in a mist, nay fog, of misinformation and disinformation to hide the truth. The reason for this is that the truth does not fit with the image, not nearly, not at all. Huge corruption financially, criminally and throughout business and government is the norm but you are not allowed to expose it in case the apple cart is upset.

This is an imposition by people to protect themselves against the exposure of their deceit and theft of funds belonging to the country or others. It is a selfish, self serving shield that has nothing to do with benefit for the country. Laws should benefit society as a whole.

Given the whole game of smoke a mirrors to hide the reality that Thailand is a country run by factions entirely focussed on self interest and having no regard for the state, given the fact the international community is focussed on stability in the country for their own purposes with complete disregard for what is good for Thailand, perhaps Thailand is best ignoring the advice of others in this specific circumstance since it well understands deceit.

Given the complete disconnect between the foreign embassies and what is happening on the ground, even if the international community did gave Thailand's interest at heart, they have no clear understanding of what the reality is, partly because those in power don't want anyone to know how evil and corrupt they really are and partly because of the complete ambivalence of the foreign missions masquerading as embassies here.

Thailand is strangled by corruption, none more than was inflicted on it by the last government. It is strangled by idiocy of those in power who really have NO capability nor desire to run the country save to dream up ways to steal the country's finances by schemes that can be promoted as benefitting the poor (who are too uneducated to see the reality through the propaganda smokescreen), yet in reality benefit the people in government and their cronies.

Those in opposition are little better either, but social media is beginning to shine a tiny light into the black hole of Thailand's corruption. Scary to the politicians is that! Now Thais speak in terms of what colour shirt you wear and the hate speeches from the PTP and Suthep's gang have set people against each other. Why! For the benefit of Thailand? I think not, more to keep the gravy train of corruption Alive for the winners.

Driving the country toward civil war for personal gain is beyond evil, neither side prepared to back down in true Puu Yai style that epitomizes Thailand's social disorder. As bad as the coup appears through the fog to those foreigners who are blessed with an understanding of democracy, yet ignorance of the facts here, it is better than civil war and really the time had come for some rationale and action to stop further deterioration.

The hope now is that some sense can prevail and both sides start on the road to compromise and a government focussed on driving Thailand forward rather than driving the state funds into the private bank accounts of the politicians and their followers. Someone had to try to resolve the deadlock and it is sad that the leaders of either side were so greedy in taking all and their egos prevented democracy from finding a solution.

Maybe the Army can arrange a boot camp at the Army Club to teach the leaders and would be leaders the principles of democracy and good governance. That would be money wisely spent.

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[chooka]

You know what they all can't be wrong.

Take note of the overwhelming cry for democracy and elections ASAP.

It's about time that the elite yellows will just have accept the will of the thai people and not spit the dummy every time they get rolled at elections.

We all know the PTP will win in a landslide so the yellows should be asking themselves what can we do win over the people.

The coup is costing the Thais a lot of money and future possible investment and maybe soon even lives.

after a massive reform, PTP will be history in the minds of Thais ...

Will be the same dog, just a different collar

[robione]

You know what they all can't be wrong.

Take note of the overwhelming cry for democracy and elections ASAP.

It's about time that the elite yellows will just have accept the will of the thai people and not spit the dummy every time they get rolled at elections.

We all know the PTP will win in a landslide so the yellows should be asking themselves what can we do win over the people.

The coup is costing the Thais a lot of money and future possible investment and maybe soon even lives.

[johnlandy]

You know what they all can't be wrong.

Take note of the overwhelming cry for democracy and elections ASAP.

It's about time that the elite yellows will just have accept the will of the thai people and not spit the dummy every time they get rolled at elections.

We all know the PTP will win in a landslide so the yellows should be asking themselves what can we do win over the people.

The coup is costing the Thais a lot of money and future possible investment and maybe soon even lives.

What does the international community know about what should, should not be done, what is best for Thailand etc., many of these a'hole countries cannot even manage their own countries and they should wait and judge the outcome not the process.

There has been a lot of talk about democracies, the word is not in the Thai vernacular, and Thailand whilst it may have had a pseudo democracy it has never had a true democracy.

IMHO this coup was a long time over due.

Edited May 24, 2014 by johnlandy

[Fookhaht]

The International Community is not my older brother

Thais believe in saving face and appearance is everything, but in reality they do not give two hoots what others say

It is too much of a me me me country for things to change for the better

Well-illustrated in the following rant by a Thai academic...

[robione]

honestly what do you expect when you said ur country is a democratie? like u go back to military coup when it fits the need of an "elite". other countries ur refer to are dealt with. It looks like Thailand and Asia in general love two

things: taking the money of everybody and not respecting international rules they sign on.

We should freeze all thai assets around the world to see

[johnlandy]

The International Community is not my older brother

Thais believe in saving face and appearance is everything, but in reality they do not give two hoots what others say

It is too much of a me me me country for things to change for the better

Well-illustrated in the following rant by a Thai academic...

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I would hardly call it a rant, the guy is right on the money.

[Thaddeus]

Who are 'the international community' ?

[seajae]

if the general does this right Thailand is going to be a lot better country for it. So far he is doing well, he is culling the trouble makers and treating all sides equally, something no one else has done. The biggest whingers are those that want thaksin back, its not what the thais want but what the thaksin lackies want, just look at them in here and the crap they are sprouting. This country has a chance to sort out all its problems but thaksins appologists dont want that, they want to see blood and guts on the streets, the idea that every thai can have a better life is beyond them. If the udd and pdrc can hold hands and try to look for a better way out then so should everyone else, this is about the good of every thai citizen, not thaksin and his bank account

[Fookhaht]

The International Community is not my older brother

Thais believe in saving face and appearance is everything, but in reality they do not give two hoots what others say

It is too much of a me me me country for things to change for the better

Well-illustrated in the following rant by a Thai academic...

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I would hardly call it a rant, the guy is right on the money.

Like the petulant teenage daughter that says, "You don't understand me. Nobody understands me. Everybody go away!"

It's strange how mostly elite Thais think their "Thai-ness" is inscrutable.

Edited May 24, 2014 by Fookhaht

[slipperylobster]

yep and the Americans historically have done the region so much good , i' m thinking korea, vietnam, I' m sure they'll be sorely missed.

Oh don't forget WW2... you know the big one... that we (the good guys?) won. Really screwed that one up didn't we. You'd have bad words regardless because you are one-eyed anti-american... yet you are too ignorant to even see the alternatives. Sure Vietnam was a cock up, and that has been generally acknowledged. If there was no allied presence in the region, the region would not exist today, and you would not be sitting on your bar stool pontificating. Pol Pot, the SLORC and with some luck the Nth Korean loser will have all fallen because of western (primarily american) influence. Plus we are not run by the Chinese today, and in 1945, Russia did not set the standard for the new world order. So hate all you like. (I am not american BTW)

and how thankless and weak-gutted are they who bitch and cry about the state of the world...yet do nothing except that.

[ableguy]

Great to see the world condemning the illegal action of the military leadership!

I hope sanctions will be introduced swiftly.

Thai resistance to the coup has almost started immediately yesterday and will grow in the next few weeks.

The Thai economy will suffer and this will bring more people into opposition to the junta and the puppets they will appoint as "civilian government "

Yes let's get a bunch of thieves back running things then they can scrap all the checks and balances, pardon all criminals for past crimes, whilst eating mouldy rice. Paradise??????