Junta brings back Pornthip as director of CIFS

[Lite Beer]

Junta brings back Pornthip as director of CIFS
Piyanut Tumnukasetchai
The Nation

Pornthip

BANGKOK: -- The National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) has ordered the Justice Ministry to reinstate forensics expert Khunying Pornthip Rojanasunand as director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science (CIFS).

Chanchao Chaiyanukit, deputy permanent secretary of the Justice Ministry, said yesterday that it had received an order from the NCPO on Tuesday to swap Lt-Colonel Anek Yomchinda's post as director of the CIFS with that of Pornthip's, who is the incumbent inspector-general at the Justice Ministry.

It was decided that the transfer would help the national policy agenda of improving the forensic-science sector and addressing problems in southern border provinces.

The transfer would also serve as an internal circulation of personnel within the Justice Ministry.

The new arrangement is effective immediately.

In reaction to the order Pornthip said: "The fieldwork in southern border provinces was something that I had previously been responsible for.

"In the past, I'd like [people] to ask local officers [so that they knew] there were orders not to send the DNA of insurgents to the military and prohibition of any conduct that would be against the law. However, CIFS officials who were working there were transferred out, so there has been no progress in investigations," she said.

Pornthip gained prominence because of her work on a number of high-profile cases including the murder of a medical student in 1998. She also investigated the murder of former Bangkok MP Hangthong Thammawattana.

Pornthip worked for the Centre for Resolution of the Emergency Situation, which was set up to deal with red-shirt protests in 2010.

She was appointed as a caretaker CIFS director in 2005, when the institute was tasked with the job of looking into the insurgency in the South.

She was later given the post permanently in 2008, but was removed from the post five years later and made inspector-general in May last year under justice minister Pol General Pracha Promnog. Anek was then moved to replace her at CIFS.

Pracha at that time tried to blame Pornthip for procurement of fake GT-200 bomb scanners, but Pornthip claimed not to have been involved in the deal.

However, Anek testified to the National Anti-Corruption Commission that he had signed the order to buy the GT-200 devices as ordered by his supervisor Pornthip, who insisted they were real.

Pornthip had many rows with the police.

In 2005, police reopened the identification process of victims of the 2004 tsunami after questioning the credibility of the work done by Pornthip's team, which had initially been assigned to the task by the Justice Ministry.

Pornthip also criticised police over their investigation into the murder of Akeyuth Anchanbutr, an outspoken critic of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, last year.

She spoke many times at rallies in support of the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee this year.

Anek has been in the forensic-science sector since its inception after being transferred from Phramongkutklao Hospital.

He moved up to become deputy director of the CIFS and later deputy director of the Southern Border Provinces Administrative Centre when Pol Colonel Tawee Sodsong was director.

-- The Nation 2014-06-21

[NongKhaiKid]

Will she be advising on explosive detectors too ?

[Bkungbank]

It started when tsunami that time Pronthip gets greater attention then his superior,she became dislike from poo yai even her performer is good, here ability not enough have know how to jack too.

The sky are opening , lights are shinning down and darkness are gone.

Edited June 21, 2014 by Bkungbank

[englishoak]

Will she be advising on explosive detectors too ?

shh dont mention that..........its not positive enough

[NongKhaiKid]

Will she be advising on explosive detectors too ?

shh dont mention that..........its not positive enough

Luckily i fueled my truck up yesterday. Am now heading for Swampy

[Chris Lawrence]

I thought it was Mick Jagger at first.....

A good democrat girl; helped the Thai Navy saying the boats with refugees had substances and chemical that was used for bomb making?

Likes the GT 200 but has never personally used one.

Is credited as a Human Rights Activist? This is not something you do when it suits your cause, it means that you have a passion for the rights of human beings.

As a sluth, maybe she can discover where the $1,000,000+ in brown paper bag payments went when accepted by the Thai Tobacco Co. This was reported in the US in 2010 and the offshore culprits were fined some $5,000,000? for their part. To my knowledge this is still unsolved?

Well in good company was chosen with brothel-tycoon Chuwit Kamolvisit as persons of the year for 2003, by the Nation?

[NongKhaiKid]

I thought it was Mick Jagger at first.....

A good democrat girl; helped the Thai Navy saying the boats with refugees had substances and chemical that was used for bomb making?

Likes the GT 200 but has never personally used one.

Is credited as a Human Rights Activist? This is not something you do when it suits your cause, it means that you have a passion for the rights of human beings.

As a sluth, maybe she can discover where the $1,000,000+ in brown paper bag payments went when accepted by the Thai Tobacco Co. This was reported in the US in 2010 and the offshore culprits were fined some $5,000,000? for their part. To my knowledge this is still unsolved?

Well in good company was chosen with brothel-tycoon Chuwit Kamolvisit as persons of the year for 2003, by the Nation?

Where do you live so I can pick you up and we can head for Swampy together ?

[Payboy]

Didn't know Steven Tyler was a forensics expert.

[HerIndoors]

Hmmm ....the old story of 'My enemy's enemy is my friend'. I'm given to understand that the BIB hate her so maybe she can't be all that bad a choice ?

[h90]

I thought it was Mick Jagger at first.....

A good democrat girl; helped the Thai Navy saying the boats with refugees had substances and chemical that was used for bomb making?

Likes the GT 200 but has never personally used one.

Is credited as a Human Rights Activist? This is not something you do when it suits your cause, it means that you have a passion for the rights of human beings.

As a sluth, maybe she can discover where the $1,000,000+ in brown paper bag payments went when accepted by the Thai Tobacco Co. This was reported in the US in 2010 and the offshore culprits were fined some $5,000,000? for their part. To my knowledge this is still unsolved?

Well in good company was chosen with brothel-tycoon Chuwit Kamolvisit as persons of the year for 2003, by the Nation?

????

[chainarong]

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NongKhaiKid, on 21 Jun 2014 - 09:27, said:

englishoak, on 21 Jun 2014 - 09:25, said:

NongKhaiKid, on 21 Jun 2014 - 08:03, said:

Will she be advising on explosive detectors too ?

alt=cheesy.gif width=32 height=20> alt=cheesy.gif width=32 height=20> alt=cheesy.gif width=32 height=20> shh dont mention that..........its not positive enough alt=whistling.gif>

Luckily i fueled my truck up yesterday. Am now heading for Swampy

I was there Thursday night , nothings changed.

[thumper101]

Looks like a 1980s Greenham Common dyke.

Only thing different is that she is not chained to a fence.

[pookiki]

Is that a gun in your skirt or are you happy to see me?

[JesseFrank]

Will she be advising on explosive detectors too ?

They don't need new ones yet, they're still using the ones that have been proofed not to function.

[ratcatcher]

I thought it was Mick Jagger at first.....

A good democrat girl; helped the Thai Navy saying the boats with refugees had substances and chemical that was used for bomb making?

Likes the GT 200 but has never personally used one.

Is credited as a Human Rights Activist? This is not something you do when it suits your cause, it means that you have a passion for the rights of human beings.

As a sluth, maybe she can discover where the $1,000,000+ in brown paper bag payments went when accepted by the Thai Tobacco Co. This was reported in the US in 2010 and the offshore culprits were fined some $5,000,000? for their part. To my knowledge this is still unsolved?

Well in good company was chosen with brothel-tycoon Chuwit Kamolvisit as persons of the year for 2003, by the Nation?

"I thought it was Mick Jagger at first....."

Mick doesn't have bad hair days, these guys do..................

[bkkden]

This lady is a great person and a hero from the tsunami crisis! If you don't know about her you can find a lot about her if you try to. If you make fun of her... Get a life!!

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

[atyclb]

She is not a stupid person but one cannot deny her stance on the bogus explosive detectors is credibility damaging and questionable. Theres a youtube video about her and family. seems she copleted a residency in pathology in usa.

the hairstyle is fine as a high % of medical doctors are fairly boring and conservative.

give her a guitar and mic.

Edited June 21, 2014 by atyclb

[Neurath]

If one's claim to fame is to have fought power with truth, and then one uses that fame to fight truth with power well, the ledger isn't exactly all positive.

Edited June 21, 2014 by Neurath

[Chris Lawrence]

I thought it was Mick Jagger at first.....

A good democrat girl; helped the Thai Navy saying the boats with refugees had substances and chemical that was used for bomb making?

Likes the GT 200 but has never personally used one.

Is credited as a Human Rights Activist? This is not something you do when it suits your cause, it means that you have a passion for the rights of human beings.

As a sluth, maybe she can discover where the $1,000,000+ in brown paper bag payments went when accepted by the Thai Tobacco Co. This was reported in the US in 2010 and the offshore culprits were fined some $5,000,000? for their part. To my knowledge this is still unsolved?

Well in good company was chosen with brothel-tycoon Chuwit Kamolvisit as persons of the year for 2003, by the Nation?

"I thought it was Mick Jagger at first....."

Mick doesn't have bad hair days, these guys do..................

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Yeah you are right Rat, but I just looked quickly at her and first thought was Mick. Appologies to Mick

[citizen33]

And replacing an official with a more sympathetic alternative has been known to cost others high office!

[Chris Lawrence]

She is not a stupid person but one cannot deny her stance on the bogus explosive detectors is credibility damaging and questionable. Theres a youtube video about her and family. seems she copleted a residency in pathology in usa.

the hairstyle is fine as a high % of medical doctors are fairly boring and conservative.

give her a guitar and mic.

She sounds like a gun for hire, for hard cases. Don't know of how her track record is as an expert witness, but from what I have been reading about the Thai Judicial system, no jury, no record taking except by the judge, she may be favoured by certian elite factions?

Undoubtable a very intelligent person.

[fab4]

Looks like a 1980s Greenham Common dyke.

Only thing different is that she is not chained to a fence.

"Greenham Common dyke"

That phrase says so much about you, it's uncanny. You must really miss the Daily Mail online now that the junta have banned it. I suppose there's always The Sun, but even they are probably on borrowed time once the present regime finds out about what advice they gave the Argentinian military rulers, something about "Stick It Up Your............", I believe.

Edited June 21, 2014 by fab4

[tonbridgebrit]

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/10/11/national/national_30085759.php

No explosive residue: Pornthip

By Piyanuch Thamnukasetchai
The Nation
Published on October 11, 2008

An inspection of the scene of bloody clashes between police and the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) has found no explosive residue, renowned forensic expert Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand said yesterday.

"There's also no trace of any such substance on the clothes or bodies of the injured victims," she told a press conference.

Pornthip, head of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, conducted the inspection to assist the National Human Rights Commission. It focused on whether tear gas could blow off people's limbs, and if not, why so many protesters lost legs, arms and fingers during Tuesday's bloody clashes.

The deaths and serious injuries raised questions about whether police used lethal force - and not only tear gas - to disperse PAD demonstrators.

While Pornthip was inspecting the scene of Tuesday's events in front of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, many injured victims showed up to tell her what happened to them on that day. They also allowed Pornthip's team to examine their wounds.

National artist Naowarat Pongpaiboon also called on Pornthip to give justice to fellow artist Chingchai Udomkij, who lost a hand in the violence.

"It's impossible for such an artist to carry bombs," Naowarat said in response to police suggestions that some victims had inadvertently harmed themselves from carrying bombs.

Pornthip said the cause of Chingchai's injuries had yet to be determined.

"Our team has used a GT200 substance detector and found no substance used in making bombs. We've already checked the clash scenes and the bodies and clothing of the injured victims," she said.

However, she said the detector had collected chemicals from the scenes and victims that could be used for comparisons later.

Pornthip said the Royal Thai Police would next week show how the different types of tear gas worked.

"Then we can collect the chemicals from their demonstration and compare them with what we found at the clash scenes," she added.

Meanwhile, Pol Lance Corporal Nattawoot Jantorn - the policeman caught aiming his gun at an unidentified target on Tuesday in a video clip - yesterday came out to tell his side of the story.

"I just wanted to puncture a tyre in the pickup that ran over another policeman," Nattawoot said.

Photos and the video of his actions have been posted on the Internet, attracting widespread condemnation against the police.

Police earlier maintained no policemen had carried arms to control the PAD crowds.

"No, there was no PAD demonstrator at the scene when I drew my gun, only the pickup and a policemen," Nattawoot told a press conference.

He also explained he was not a riot policeman and was thus allowed to carry a gun.

"I was driving a bus carrying special equipment, and I had a gun to protect the equipment," Nattawoot said.

He said he ended up not firing his weapon.

"An examination of my gun will prove what I say," the 22yearold said.

Nattawoot said he had already submitted a report on what he was doing in the video to his supervisor.




( this last bit of writing now, is not from the article, the GT200 was used to determine whether bombs might have been involved).

[djjamie]

On can be assured that if a family member was a victim of government assassination the first person they would turn to for help would be Pornthip. Not the police forensic team. Pornthip. Akeyuth's family thought the same thing. The family can then be assured that they will get a professional unbiased truthful report that will not be swayed by a political agenda or a few baht. I would want justice served if my family came to a ill fated end at the hands of the government and I would not get that through the police. I would get it through Pornthip.

His Majesty recognized it.

Social Development and Human Security Ministry recognized it.

Amnesty International have recognized it.

Human Rights Watch recognized it.

She is a role model to young Thai women that through perseverance , through determination, through an unwavering commitment to seeking the truth even a women can get to the top of a male dominated field. She stood up to critics and is guilty of one thing which is showing the regime and the police force for what they truly are. Criminals.

The only people that don't recognize her suitability to the role are the same ones who saw nothing wrong with Surapong becoming the Foreign Minister. Those peoples opinions shouldn't really be respected when they saw nothing wrong with that transfer.

With that said if my family member was a GT200 bomb detector I would not recommend her. My family are human. She is an expert on human forensics. She is the best person for the job when humans are involved. Bomb detectors. Not so much. Humans….You bet ya.

Edited June 21, 2014 by djjamie

[Thailand]

"She spoke many times at rallies in support of the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee this year."

Reward time?

[fab4]

She sounds like a gun for hire, for hard cases. Don't know of how her track record is as an expert witness, but from what I have been reading about the Thai Judicial system, no jury, no record taking except by the judge, she may be favoured by certian elite factions?

Undoubtable a very intelligent person.

Don't know what you mean

Of course she also investigated David (KungFu, Kill Bill) Carradine's death as a result of auto-eroticism, which brought up these classic comments (not by Pornthip, I hasten to add)

(http://www.kcrg.com/news/entertainment/47066587.html)

"An initial autopsy report revealed Carradine died from a sudden lack of oxygen and his body showed no signs of struggle, a hospital worker who had read the report told AFP on condition of anonymity.

He died from acute lack of air, the worker said,"

and from the Police Commander;

"Under these circumstances we cannot be sure that he committed suicide but he may have died from masturbation, he said."

Who needs Forensic Scientists?

[FangFerang]

It started when tsunami that time Pronthip gets greater attention then his superior,she became dislike from poo yai even her performer is good, here ability not enough have know how to jack too.

The sky are opening , lights are shinning down and darkness are gone.

This is not a Thainglish forum. Thanks for being a yellow intruder.

[doremifasol]

I favor the reinstatement. At least when presented with a cadaver

she knows the difference between shit and shithole

[Lite Beer]

Porntip vows to devote to work

BANGKOK: -- Khunying Porntip Rojanasunan said she would devote to work for the country until her term expires.

Posting on her Facebook page today, Khunying Porntip thanked all supports given to her, and recalled the first time she was approached by the Justice Ministry to set up the Central Institute of Forensic Science in Year 2000 under the previous bureaucracy reform programme.

However when she was transferred to work, change of government also forced changing of its transparency policy which stresses separation of forensic science from law enforcement process as acceptable as international standard, she said.

She was told to work mainly on standards matters while brushing aside justice matters which she fought for to bring it to the Asean standard level.

She recalled that she was granted extension in service at the institute for another year in 2013 but was informed by the justice minister that politics wanted her sacked.

She said there was information from politicians that political party wanted to dissolve the institute as called for by the police but this remained unconfirmed if it was true or false.

However she recalled that many things have happened, particularly suggestions to halt all activities dealing with justices and not to have conflicts with the police.

But she said the return today to the institute was considered a protection by Dhamma and she vowed to devote to work at best until her term expires.

Khunying Porntip served as director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science of the Justice Ministry from May 2008-2013. She was then transferred to the ministry as inspector-general until she was put back to her position by the National Council for Peace and Order.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/porntip-vows-devote-work/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=porntip-vows-devote-work

-- Thai PBS 2014-06-21

[EyesWideOpen]

Here is where she went down in flames....So to me , she has no credibility whatsoever...

Hopefully not too many soldiers died because of her support of a piece of crap..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT200

Pornthip Rojanasunand, Director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, also defended the use of the GT200 devices, claiming that they were effective when searching for bombs and even nails under water. She said: "I do not feel embarrassed if the bomb detector is proven ineffective. Personally, I have never handled the device myself. But my people have used it and it is accurate every time. Long long time ago, people believed that the Earth is flat and anyone who said otherwise faced execution. Things which are not visible does not necessarily mean they do not exist. The devices are there and no one has the right to ban their use. I will continue to use it."^[58]