angsta Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 You can't drink on the trains in North Korea either. This lot have only just started. I hope all you ex-pats who have purchased houses illegally through Thai companies are ready to lose them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 An inflammatory post has been removed as well as the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 You can't drink on the trains in North Korea either. This lot have only just started. I hope all you ex-pats who have purchased houses illegally through Thai companies are ready to lose them. Who wants to go to N Korea ? Whats with the houses ? Are you some little English teacher on 10,000 a month looking at all the farangs here who have made something of their lives ? your dingy little room not up to scratch ? I've built two houses here,legally, eat your heart out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I don't get it. The company employs a beer drinking, drug abusing rapist and as a result of their uselessness they are going to ban sale of alcohol to their customers? How does that solve the problem of the company's HR inadequacies? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I predicted this reactionary response, millions of uneventful trips completed by passengers on the rail, millions of beers consumed. An awful, tragic event...reaction? no more beer sales or consumption. So now instead of one unfortunate victim, all those travelers that enjoy a drink on board the train are victims also. Perhaps you didn't read the article.Alcohol consumption will still be allowed...discreetly. I would consider the victim to be more than unfortunate and I would suggest you reconsider your idea that not being able to buy alcohol on the train is even remotely similar to her fate. Perhaps you read te article but not properly? "Passengers can bring their alcoholic drinks on board but if they are seen drinking on board they will be invited to get off the trains, he added. This is Thailand, that wont happen,that would be like enforcing the traffic laws Agreed. If they can't stop the problems of mini van drivers being off their face on yaba then what chance is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Great news, with the absence of the odd and sometimes slightly intimidating atmosphere created by intoxicated Railway Police and SRT staff, maybe the restaurant carriages will become more of a pleasant place to sit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbolai Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The ladies only carriage idea is a good one. And keep lady boys away from all carriages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbolai Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The drunks can not go alcohol free for the journey? Get your own transport, take a taxi and drink yourself stupid. . Lady carriages are overdue and please ban men impersonating females. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 You can't drink on the trains in North Korea either. This lot have only just started. I hope all you ex-pats who have purchased houses illegally through Thai companies are ready to lose them. Who wants to go to N Korea ? Whats with the houses ? Are you some little English teacher on 10,000 a month looking at all the farangs here who have made something of their lives ? your dingy little room not up to scratch ? I've built two houses here,legally, eat your heart out. There's nothing like an uncivilised lack of modesty to overshadow accomplishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Knee Jerk Reaction, for the actions of one sub-contractor. More to the point who was supervising this contractor? Probably better to ban employees and contractors from drinking before and while on duty, and any passenger who's behaviour is not acceptable (anti-social or offensive) will face being refused travel or being removed from a train (at the next station). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Good call. Nothing worse than sitting next to someone stinking of beer or whisky all trip. Drinking shouldn't be allowed around children anyway. I remember the time I got sat next to a "Pattaya Farang" on the plane. He ordered beer after beer for 13 hours. After the third, he took of his leather jacket to reveal his unwashed vest and unleash his BO, and then proceeded to slurp and burp before falling asleep and snoring. That was me. I did it just to piss you off. Why do i believe this ?. The best thing they can do is ban all beer having heard what happened all you Falangs that think about gettin pissed on the train well hahaha it's stopped it won't kill you till you reach your destination and if you dare to consume the beer discreetly they will be plenty of Thais or lads like me to grass you up ??? You were doing well until the "grass you up" bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malt25 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The ladies only carriage idea is a good one. In theory is a great idea if all staff are only female as well. What's the point if staff still male ? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooMuchToLearn Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Alcohol didn't make this man a rapist and killer, nor did drugs. Being a rapist and killer made him a rapist and killer. The drugs and alcohol just lowered his inhibitions, and made it easier for him to unleash his true personality. Odds are, this was not the first time he's raped someone. A better screening process might have filtered him out...but probably not. Do you have any idea HOW INCREDIBLY EASY it is for a Thai person to change their identity? It's stunningly simple. A new screening process can't weed out the bad apples...if it's not connected to competent ID system. They need a new screening process...and a new everything else having to do with IDs and histories! Of course, they've got to start somewhere, and doing SOMETHING to improve is better than doing nothing to improve. But I wouldn't hold-out much real hope...for quite a long time. Lastly, for the person who has said a couple of times, "Read the article. It says you can still drink. You just have to do it discretely." (paraphrased) -- No, it DOESN'T say that. Read the article. It says you can still BRING alcohol on the train, but it DOESN'T say you can drink it. They are acknowledging that people go shopping...and sometimes carry alcohol home or on vacation with them. They're saying it's a SELLING and CONSUMING ban, but not a TRANSPORTING ban. I agree with the consensus here: This ban is silly and does nothing to address the real problem. And it takes away a service that people clearly want...and eliminates a revenue stream the system clearly needs. In addition, which is likely to make a more "secure" environment for the travelers--having the officers patrolling the cars looking for customers to buy alcohol...or taking away their reason for making the walk, at all? These are not "security officers," of course; but they ARE an "official presence" that might be helping to keep things somewhat under control. Is taking away their reason for "patrolling"...really a way to make everyone more..."secure?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 You can't drink on the trains in North Korea either. This lot have only just started. I hope all you ex-pats who have purchased houses illegally through Thai companies are ready to lose them. Who wants to go to N Korea ? Whats with the houses ? Are you some little English teacher on 10,000 a month looking at all the farangs here who have made something of their lives ? your dingy little room not up to scratch ? I've built two houses here,legally, eat your heart out. There's nothing like an uncivilised lack of modesty to overshadow accomplishment. I was born modest; not all over,but in spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The ladies only carriage idea is a good one. In theory is a great idea if all staff are only female as well. What's the point if staff still male ? Just wondering. No one would want to rape the males Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwinfc Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 What is their line of thinking? It was not another passenger who got drunk and raped this poor little girl! It was one of their employees who did it. So why are they intent to punish all train travellers by banning alcohol consumption on trains? This may be a reactionary response but the action does not suit the terrible crime committed by that employee and surely it would not prevent another employee from bringing whiskey on a train to drink after everyone is asleep. The SRT is punishing the passengers for their own mistakes by other employees allowing this man to drink while on duty. since this is the LOS we're talking about, one is very much inclined to believe that NO THINKING was involved at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The ladies only carriage idea is a good one. And keep lady boys away from all carriages. Nah. They can sit on the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfish Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 They really need to Ban alcohol across the country on the days there are overnight train travel, especially in Phuket, Pattaya and Samui.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdecas Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 It's unfortunate that bureaucrats and politicians feel the need to make knee-jerk responses in the wake of tragedy, often with unintended consequences. They are usually to placate public opinion and be seen to be 'doing' something about the problem, in reality rarely addressing the cause directly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 When the freedoms of many are limited by the actions of a few, it's called a nanny state, isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tom Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Pathetic.Coincidentally this monster was on a train. Stopping the sale of alcohol is good enough. You're welcome to board the train under the influence though and discretely get inebriated quietly in a corner to ponder your dark thoughts. And well let you off at a stop in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night regardless of your age where is also safe from loud drunk people. We're not going to pay for more security though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The ladies only carriage idea is a good one. this way a possible perpetrator knows where to go? Rape on the train. Now even better, you have a choice !! Gone are the old days where you relied on coincidence,travel the new convenient way,a comfortable seat next to the women's carriage,booking in advance is recommended. Sick, you need professional help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The ladies only carriage idea is a good one. this way a possible perpetrator knows where to go? Rape on the train. Now even better, you have a choice !! Gone are the old days where you relied on coincidence,travel the new convenient way,a comfortable seat next to the women's carriage,booking in advance is recommended. Sick, you need professional help! sarcasm is not your thing is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 "Passengers can bring their alcoholic drinks on board but if they are seen drinking on board they will be invited to get off the trains, he added". And.......if the invitation is declined? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 "Passengers can bring their alcoholic drinks on board but if they are seen drinking on board they will be invited to get off the trains, he added". And.......if the invitation is declined? 200 Baht should see you alright,and a little sip from the whiskey bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmonman Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I predicted the response of some posters thinking not getting a beer on a train because of a rape/death of a 13 year old girl that they were the real victims. That is not the point. The point is that the government's response is a knee-jerk reaction that doesn't address the problem but makes it look like they are doing something serious. Since rapes by drunken men can occur anywhere, not just on trains, why not ban alcohol altogether, everywhere? I'm sure there are politicians who would like to do so (remember Purachai?) but it wouldn't solve the problem and would just create others. No one is saying the inconvenience of not being able to drink on the train is anywhere near equivalent to the horror of being raped. How you could get that from any of the responses so far is beyond me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanet Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Having a couple of beers on the train while watching the sun setting over the fields was a great pleasure for a great many peace loving and law abiding people, who are allowed to drink on trains the world over. This is a ridiculous knee-jerk response from a ridiculous knee-jerk government. Banning SRT employees from drinking is all that's needed here. Knee jerk response would be someone reading one news article and forming an opinion rather than considering the larger context that alcohol abuse has been an issue on these trains for some time and not from the folks like you or me who just had a drink or two while watching the sunset. Do you travel By train in Thailand? You sound like one of those politically correct 'elf 'n' safety zealots from the western world. The kind who take pleasure in ruining everyone's enjoyment by banning everything that's fun but a tiny little bit risky. And yes, I've travelled by train in Thailand many times. Banning alcohol won't stop psychopaths from perpetrating crimes like these. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Ban alcohol? I thought alcohol is banned during day hours and election days? The outcome - 4th highest alcohol consumption country in th world and a very corrupt gov as we are finding out ( even though we already knew) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Ban alcohol? I thought alcohol is banned during day hours and election days? The outcome - 4th highest alcohol consumption country in th world and a very corrupt gov as we are finding out ( even though we already knew) CB illegal, banned, against regulations, Thailand. Silly boy,how long have you lived here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westaurel Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 In the same point of view why not ban alcohol too in music concerts, shows and festivals to prevent the risk of fight or rape to drunken young thai people ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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