webfact Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Culty temple goes after guy who mocks its merit-by-debit scheme By Coconuts BangkokBANGKOK: -- A controversial temple with a reputation for encouraging followers to donate cash for spiritual merit said it will go after a netizen who accused it of taking credit cards for donations. Dhammakaya Temple, housed in what looks like a giant UFO on the northern outskirts of Bangkok, said Monday it will accuse a Facebook user identified only as “Puk Boo” for defaming the organization in comments made online. In a screenshot taken by Khaosod, the user posted a message claiming Buddhists may earn merits by swiping credit cards at the Phra Dhammakaya Temple, even if they cannot afford it. "Swipe the card for fast merits. Borrow if you can't afford it!" read the post, which has since been deleted. "Phra Dhammakaya Temple's new promotion: Get a Krung Thai Bank ATM [card] today and make merit through the temple. No money? Get a loan to donate to the temple. Promotion supported by Krung Thai Bank." Although Puk was referring to a real temple promotion with Krung Thai, he might have confused how debit and credit cards work. The bank does offer a Dhammakaya-themed debit card to facilitate their merit-making, suited to the lifestyle of merit-needy spiritual seekers short on time for good deeds. [read more...]Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co//2014/07/30/culty-temple-goes-after-guy-who-mocks-its-merit-debit-scheme [cnb]2014-07-30[/cnb] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai at Heart Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 Who ever came up with this marketing hook up between a temple and a credit card really is a marketing genius. I mean what can go wrong. You are using debt to buy merit. I guess this is the antithesis of pay it forward. Buy it forward for yourself.... I would like to say, only in Thailand, but it really might be, only in Thailand. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eddy B Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 Well!! This looks like a complete con to me!! Time for the Junta to jump on this!! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iReason Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 "The bank does offer a Dhammakaya-themed debit card to facilitate their merit-making, suited to the lifestyle of merit-needy spiritual seekers short on time for good deeds." Amazing Thailand. Now, with short-time sheep. What a twisted society... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 Well!! This looks like a complete con to me!! Time for the Junta to jump on this!! A church, religous group, temple, is trying to get their congregation, followers, adherents to donate cash. Religion and money, now there's a concept. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 I've always worked on the basis that if there is a "higher power" they are more than capable of seeing what my good deeds actually are without the need to pay or bribe to get them delivered to him/her/it . . . 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Payboy Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 Bangkok temple goes after guy who mocks its merit-by-debit scheme Aren't they supposed to forgive? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post american12bthai Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 i would like to thank the temple for making this a very big deal. so everybody-nose. i would like to thank the guy who pointed this out. you are a responsible guy for pointing out problems. noone can buy merit. but it is a great way to launder money. buy ash pressed figurines for 50,000 baht. lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeremy50 Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 Might as well, religion is a con anyway. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I think my head is spinning from just looking at this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Bangkok temple goes after guy who mocks its merit-by-debit scheme Aren't they supposed to forgive?Wrong "religion". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 Religion,money and power go hand in hand,not just here but throughout the whole world. I thought Buddha preached that you don't need to build temples,under a tree is just fine,and don't make any images,in todays world you need the Disneyland experience! regards Worgeordie 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BillyBobThai Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 Waiting for the day the world gives up on religion. Probably the day that the aliens land. Would love to see the expression on the pope when he is told aliens have landed. I'll probably die first. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fabianfred Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 Buddhist teaching says that one without debt has peace of mind. Any temple or anyone encouraging debt is doing wrong. Getting oneself into debt will never make merit but the opposite. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Waiting for the day the world gives up on religion. Probably the day that the aliens land. Would love to see the expression on the pope when he is told aliens have landed. I'll probably die first. It's my theory that's why the aliens stay away. And avoiding the warmongering parasites that inhabit the earth... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lostmebike Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 @BillyBob ... Looking at Morakot's pictures, I would say the aliens have landed already. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Religion,money and power go hand in hand,not just here but throughout the whole world. I thought Buddha preached that you don't need to build temples,under a tree is just fine,and don't make any images,in todays world you need the Disneyland experience! regards Worgeordie yes but where is the profit if you sit under the tree and think about life? Religion is always a bit like Amway minus the plastic. Buddhist, catholic or muslims, it is all about the money. And it attracts people who don't like to work. These parts who teach that monks should work are always hated from the mainstream (jesuits, santi asoke, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Buddhist teaching says that one without debt has peace of mind. Any temple or anyone encouraging debt is doing wrong. Getting oneself into debt will never make merit but the opposite. Well all the religions teach that you shouldn't kill.....and all the monks can't await to bless new weapons at the army....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinostar Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Temples in Thailand are for the monks and abbot. Only here Buddhism has gone to the status of commercialism. Nice architecture though...for a football stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prbkk Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2014 Swiping credit cards for merit? My ex-wife is beyond nirvana status. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Might be my last post because I truly can't take more of the wolf in sheep's clothing for other reasons, but with her being a card carrying member of this, one thing I have to say for sure is that it doesn't really seem to be on the take as much as most charitable organizations. For those that don't know and although not to my taste, it runs a 24 hr. station promoting peace, Buddhism, and English education on top of funding throughout the country and many services done by it's virtual army of monks. That's from somebody that finds it hard to say a good thing about anything that has to do with religions and killing people just because they don't believe the same. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvw53 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Who ever came up with this marketing hook up between a temple and a credit card really is a marketing genius. I mean what can go wrong. You are using debt to buy merit. I guess this is the antithesis of pay it forward. Buy it forward for yourself.... I would like to say, only in Thailand, but it really might be, only in Thailand. "marketing genius"? Nobody has ever done better than the Augsburg based Fugger banking family in their dealings with the Vatican around the year 1500 : they were the ones who suggested to the Pope that sinners should also be allowed to pay penalties (indulgences) for their sins. That was those days really "jackpot". Just google for "Jakob Fugger" Compared to this gigantic Fugger business the transactions by the controversial temple are stuff for the kids..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjunadawn Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 "Fast world; busy people; modern era; simplicity..." Rationalize all they want, this is abhorrent. This action crystallizes how equal this is to former Christian indulgences. Whereas the Buddhist social contract between temples and the lay represents the lay enabling monks the means that enable attainment in consciousness- which benefits the whole community, and in turn temples ministering/praying/supporting the lay, this current temple/bank arrangement is simple Simony (purchasing heaven). Considerable institutional wisdom must be lacking to proceed with such a plan. Arrogance must be present to defend it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanpierre Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 i make donation once a week trow money at my home in the air all the lord can grap he can keep the rest is mine!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 cool building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Pay or Pray or lost the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pii Kate Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Think Tom Cruise is a member? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Think Tom Cruise is a member? Nah, I think that is some science lot..... Wat Phra Dammakaya does do some good.... but the adherents pay through the nose, it is true. They are sincerely dedicated, and ignore the controversies over the land dealings, motor vehicles and "trappings". Notwithstanding, I thought it a little hard to swallow that the former Chief Nun, a disciple of the founder, had a change of heart every day whilst laying in the sarcophagus... ruby one day, sapphire another..... And my friend who spent two or three weeks meditating at Dammakaya Chiang Mai was in the office less than two hours on Monday morning when she blew her stack.... couldn't figure the benefit of meditation practice after that. Nonetheless, whatever religious persuasion, it is pretty impressive to sit amongst 500,000 in the congregation and watch 100,000 monks chant on that dome structure..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 so google will submit the facebooker's name ? DAFAMATION !! seems to become a very popular word in Thailand. get off your horse folks and start working on a happier Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rykbanlor Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Absolutely Religulous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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