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Can anyone here explain why the local police feel the need to deploy mine resistant armoured personnel vehicles against unarmed civilians who are protesting ? Why the need for battlefield weapons ? I am all for the police being able to defend themselves but this is way over the top.

I see Sharpton is saying the people are not looters they are liberators.

I also notice the lefty posters here simply totally ignored the list of white men and women killed by blacks and never reported as they do every day.

That is the elephant in the room which the left has simply ignored for decades

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I also notice the lefty posters here simply totally ignored the list of white men and women killed by blacks and never reported as they do every day.

These deaths were reported. And some of them are made up. Inga Evans for example. Not sure what the point of the list is without detail and with fabricated deaths. Were the people caught and convicted for these killings? Surely that's going to be the difference. Put some effort into the list, some context.

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Dancing on the grave.

And wanting only more graves to dance on.

The right wingnuts call it "reality."

A reality party of John Wayne movies.

Your kind of thinking brought us Detroit.

...but you still don't get it.

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/07/30/5-ways-liberalism-destroyed-detroit-n1651524/page/full

Aside perhaps from some threads around here, what do you know about my thinking or what I might think of the problems of Detroit? New York City had similar problems during the stagflation of the 1970s but it being NYC it pulled out without too many problems to include bucks expended in the renewal project.

Is Ferguson bankrupt? Oakland? Gary, Indiana et al?

There are plenty of well run predominantly black cities with majority black governments, in the South especially but throughout the country. Everyone knows the auto industry was the basis of Detroit's economy.

People around here like dancing on graves.

I don't think it is black community leaders that are the problem with these cities that have gone bankrupt.

It is the Democratic party leadership that has gotten them there.

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Oops. It appears our star witness, Dorian Johnson, has a propensity for telling little fibs to the police.

Might not be the best witness to put under cross examination.

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Star Witness In Michael Brown Shooting Charged With Theft, Filing False Police Report
By Larry O'Connor 21 hours ago
Dorian Johnson, the primary witness to the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, has an outstanding warrant for a 2011 theft in Jefferson City and pleaded guilty for filing a false police report related to that theft.
St. Louis ABC affiliate ABC 17 cross referenced Johnson’s name against several records and discovered the warrant.
Johnson will be the star witness for any potential prosecution proceedings against Officer Darren Wilson for the shooting of Brown. Johnson was walking with Brown when the shooting occurred.
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I also notice the lefty posters here simply totally ignored the list of white men and women killed by blacks and never reported as they do every day.

These deaths were reported. And some of them are made up. Inga Evans for example. Not sure what the point of the list is without detail and with fabricated deaths. Were the people caught and convicted for these killings? Surely that's going to be the difference. Put some effort into the list, some context.

The Obama administration filed a federal hate-crimes charge Thursday against a man whom authorities accused of using the knockout game to target a black man, videotaping it, and then bragging about the assault to strangers.

The charge marks the first time the administration has taken action on a knockout case after the game became an Internet and media phenomenon. It chose a case in which the person accused is white, even though most other cases reported in the news have involved black assailants.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/26/federal-authorities-charge-white-knockout-suspect-/#ixzz3B7bbTlhw

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I also notice the lefty posters here simply totally ignored the list of white men and women killed by blacks and never reported as they do every day.

These deaths were reported. And some of them are made up. Inga Evans for example. Not sure what the point of the list is without detail and with fabricated deaths. Were the people caught and convicted for these killings? Surely that's going to be the difference. Put some effort into the list, some context.

Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Upset about a racial name-calling that occurred earlier that night, several black men savagely beat a random white man who had had nothing to do with the incident. He slipped away from his attackers, but they forced him to swim into a lake to escape. He drowned. The three men were sentenced to less than a year in jail.

Massachusetts. Four black men decided to murder the next white person they saw. That unlucky soul was a college student from Boston, whom the men stabbed to death.

Indiana. A black man was arrested for killing seven white people with a shotgun. He explained that he murdered his victims due to his deep-rooted hatred of white people.

Miami, Florida. The leader of a black supremacist sect (i.e., the Yaweh ben Yaweh cult) was convicted of the murders of several white people. He ordered his followers to kill any and all white devils. They killed at least seven white people, bringing back body parts to their leader.

North Carolina. Seven black men kidnapped a white woman, raped her, put her in a tub of bleach, shot her five times, and dumped her body. The murderers said they did this for racial reasons.

North Carolina. Four black teenagers lured a white, ten-year-old girl into an empty house. There, they sodomized her, strangled her with a cable wire, and beat her to death with a board. In the past few weeks, the trials in the Tiffany Long case have received extensive coverage in the North Carolina press. But with two of the three defendants already sentenced to lifelong prison terms, and the third now standing trial, the national media have all but ignored the story. Only the Associated Press has reported on the trials, in a single, cursory piece. The AP, of course, failed to mention the race of the people involved an oversight it seldom if ever committed in the case of Amadou Diallo.

Boulder, Colorado. After discovering that one of their members had never had intercourse with a white woman, an Asian gang went looking for one. When they found a white University of Colorado student, the six men gang raped her in their minivan for two hours. At their trial, Detectives described the womans night of terror, including repeated threats to kill her.The woman leaped out of the minivan after one of the men raped her. Naked, she sprinted across Lefthand Canyon Road before Steve Yang tackled her, authorities said.They were all screaming at her, calling her names and hitting her, Detective Jane Harmer testified.Yang put her in a headlock and dragged her back into the van, where she was raped repeatedly, Harmer said.It was a free-for-all, Harmer testified.One man threatened to cut and burn her, and another put a gun barrel to the back of her head when they released her, Harmer said.

Kansas City, Missouri. An Ethiopian immigrant shot two white coworkers killing one and critically injuring the other at his workplace, then turned the gun on himself. At his residence, police found a three-page, signed note he had written in which he railed at black blood sucker supreme white people for oppressing him and black people in general.

New York City. In a Midtown office building, a white woman was assaulted, raped, and anally raped by a black man who called her racist names during the attack. Police refused to label it a hate crime.

Alexandria, Virginia. A black man walking through a neighborhood went over to a white eight-year-old boy playing in his great-grandparents front yard and slit the childs throat, killing him. A witness says that the attacker shouted racial epithets during the attack, and the main suspect in the case owns anti-white hate literature and had written a note about killing white children. He had been previously arrested for attacking an unarmed white stranger with a hammer. (During the attack, he called his victim Whitey.)

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I also notice the lefty posters here simply totally ignored the list of white men and women killed by blacks and never reported as they do every day.

These deaths were reported. And some of them are made up. Inga Evans for example. Not sure what the point of the list is without detail and with fabricated deaths. Were the people caught and convicted for these killings? Surely that's going to be the difference. Put some effort into the list, some context.

Race-based hate crimes spike in D.C.; whites most common victims, but underreporting feared

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/19/race-based-hate-crimes-spike-in-dc/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

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I also notice the lefty posters here simply totally ignored the list of white men and women killed by blacks and never reported as they do every day.

These deaths were reported. And some of them are made up. Inga Evans for example. Not sure what the point of the list is without detail and with fabricated deaths. Were the people caught and convicted for these killings? Surely that's going to be the difference. Put some effort into the list, some context.

black on white hate crimes you don't hear about

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The article might be a little over the top, but it seems pretty accurate to me.

Why isnt anyone speaking the most obvious and most disturbing truth about what has been taking place in Ferguson? This is a lynch mob. It is unconcerned with the facts, impatient with due process, and it wants a severely injured officer who is probably the victim of a vicious criminal thug, indicted, tried and convicted or else.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/david-horowitz/a-pound-of-white-flesh-2/

Officer Wilson dismissed due process entirely and completely while consciously deciding to take someone's life.

Brown was unarmed.

Wilson had several means at his disposal, to of course include his piece.

I think officer Wilson who is still in hiding is a wuss.

Do you really think he should commit suicide by lynch mob?

When he is exonerated, he will have to move far far away.

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The article might be a little over the top, but it seems pretty accurate to me.

Why isnt anyone speaking the most obvious and most disturbing truth about what has been taking place in Ferguson? This is a lynch mob. It is unconcerned with the facts, impatient with due process, and it wants a severely injured officer who is probably the victim of a vicious criminal thug, indicted, tried and convicted or else.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/david-horowitz/a-pound-of-white-flesh-2/

Officer Wilson dismissed due process entirely and completely while consciously deciding to take someone's life.

Brown was unarmed.

Wilson had several means at his disposal, to of course include his piece.

I think officer Wilson who is still in hiding is a wuss.

Do you really think he should commit suicide by lynch mob?

When he is exonerated, he will have to move far far away.

What lynch mob. That line is dead fish and what number day is it now......

Wilson committed a homicide so he needs to do the perp walk as all who are in custody do the perp walk.

We all need to see the handcuffs on Wilson's wrists.

Wilson and his lawyers need to be seen coming and going, to include the police wagon and escort cars.

It's not in court yet but Wilson is being questioned by FPD, the county police, FBI, lawyers etc.

Wilson should be on the go being seen, rather than be holed up as if he were some kind of special case, as if Wilson were CIA instead of local police.

Instead Wilson is both holed up and immune from regular and normal processes and procedures which comes across only as privileged and as a special case, a protected and pampered perp in this homicide.

A perp who gets to pass go and collect $200.

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Wilson should be on the go being seen, rather than be holed up as if he were some kind of special case, as if Wilson were CIA instead of local police.

Instead Wilson is both holed up and immune from regular and normal processes and procedures which comes across only as privileged and as a special case, a protected and pampered perp in this homicide.

I guess that you have never heard of the fifth amendment. It applies to every American citizen, including police officers. He is doing exactly what his lawyer is telling him to do, which is what any sensible person that is accused of a crime does.

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Oops. It appears our star witness, Dorian Johnson, has a propensity for telling little fibs to the police.

Might not be the best witness to put under cross examination.

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Star Witness In Michael Brown Shooting Charged With Theft, Filing False Police Report
By Larry O'Connor 21 hours ago
Dorian Johnson, the primary witness to the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, has an outstanding warrant for a 2011 theft in Jefferson City and pleaded guilty for filing a false police report related to that theft.
St. Louis ABC affiliate ABC 17 cross referenced Johnson’s name against several records and discovered the warrant.
Johnson will be the star witness for any potential prosecution proceedings against Officer Darren Wilson for the shooting of Brown. Johnson was walking with Brown when the shooting occurred.
...and...

Dorian Johnson is now a federal witness.

The FBI will figure him and this out and will shake all the nonsense out of it.

You might not like the findings.

Meantime the FPD has been so busy protecting the perp Wilson a reporter who'd cross referenced names and records had to inform them of the 2011 stuff that's still outstanding.

Your boyz are cold molasses.

And just as sticky.

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Wilson should be on the go being seen, rather than be holed up as if he were some kind of special case, as if Wilson were CIA instead of local police.

Instead Wilson is both holed up and immune from regular and normal processes and procedures which comes across only as privileged and as a special case, a protected and pampered perp in this homicide.

I guess that you have never heard of the fifth amendment. It applies to every American citizen, including police officers. He is doing exactly what his lawyer is telling him to do, which is what any sensible person that is accused of a crime does.

I copied and pasted your post to send it to Lois Lerner.

Wanted to do it before you did it. thumbsup.gif

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I also notice the lefty posters here simply totally ignored the list of white men and women killed by blacks and never reported as they do every day.

These deaths were reported. And some of them are made up. Inga Evans for example. Not sure what the point of the list is without detail and with fabricated deaths. Were the people caught and convicted for these killings? Surely that's going to be the difference. Put some effort into the list, some context.

The points are well taken.

To which I would add, for the list to be even relevant nevermind material - analogous - the poster would need to present data showing the shooter was a police officer and the victim had his/her hands up in the air alongside and/or over the head in the act of surrendering when shot.

Given the points you make and the core matter of true analogy, the poster is wasting bandwidth not to mention using up valuable oxygen somewhere.

Anywhere.

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The article might be a little over the top, but it seems pretty accurate to me.

Why isnt anyone speaking the most obvious and most disturbing truth about what has been taking place in Ferguson? This is a lynch mob. It is unconcerned with the facts, impatient with due process, and it wants a severely injured officer who is probably the victim of a vicious criminal thug, indicted, tried and convicted or else.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/david-horowitz/a-pound-of-white-flesh-2/

Officer Wilson dismissed due process entirely and completely while consciously deciding to take someone's life.

Brown was unarmed.

Wilson had several means at his disposal, to of course include his piece.

I think officer Wilson who is still in hiding is a wuss.

Do you really think he should commit suicide by lynch mob?

When he is exonerated, he will have to move far far away.

What lynch mob. That line is dead fish and what number day is it now......

Wilson committed a homicide so he needs to do the perp walk as all who are in custody do the perp walk.

We all need to see the handcuffs on Wilson's wrists.

Wilson and his lawyers need to be seen coming and going, to include the police wagon and escort cars.

It's not in court yet but Wilson is being questioned by FPD, the county police, FBI, lawyers etc.

Wilson should be on the go being seen, rather than be holed up as if he were some kind of special case, as if Wilson were CIA instead of local police.

Instead Wilson is both holed up and immune from regular and normal processes and procedures which comes across only as privileged and as a special case, a protected and pampered perp in this homicide.

A perp who gets to pass go and collect $200.

the shooting was justified,

the amount of bullets, not material,

this was a felon, with a wanted felon beside him,

case closed

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the shooting was justified,

the amount of bullets, not material,

this was a felon, with a wanted felon beside him,

case closed

Slow down, the boy was shot in cold blood. Initially, his mother stated he was a good lad and had recently graduated from college.

In the succeeding days it appears that he wasn't such a good boy with a propensity to bully his way through life.

Mother subsequently downgrades his humility to 'wasn't an angel' and perforations in his supposedly good character flood his previously held high-standing civic status.

Case closed, indeed.

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I also notice the lefty posters here simply totally ignored the list of white men and women killed by blacks and never reported as they do every day.

These deaths were reported. And some of them are made up. Inga Evans for example. Not sure what the point of the list is without detail and with fabricated deaths. Were the people caught and convicted for these killings? Surely that's going to be the difference. Put some effort into the list, some context.

The points are well taken.

To which I would add, for the list to be even relevant nevermind material - analogous - the poster would need to present data showing the shooter was a police officer and the victim had his/her hands up in the air alongside and/or over the head in the act of surrendering when shot.

Given the points you make and the core matter of true analogy, the poster is wasting bandwidth not to mention using up valuable oxygen somewhere.

Anywhere.

Once again you state the so called victim was on his knees with his hands in the air. Why do you keep repeating this when there is absolutely no evidence for this apart from the account from the man who assisted the so called victim in the robbery prior to this mans death and who we now know has a history of lying to the police and is wanted for outstanding warrants ?

Other eye witness accounts have the dead man running towards the officer.

The fact is more black people kill black people yet this is ignored. Deal with it !

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The police in and around Ferguson have shot and killed twice as many people in the past two weeks (Mr Brown plus one other) as the police in Japan, a nation of 127m, have shot and killed in the past six years. Nationwide, America’s police kill roughly one person a day (see chart).This is not because they are trigger-happy but because they are nervous. The citizens they encounter have perhaps 300m guns between them, so a cop never knows whether the hand in a suspect’s pocket is gripping a Glock. This will not change soon

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21613272-police-missouri-suburb-demonstrate-how-not-quell-riot-overkill

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Oops. It appears our star witness, Dorian Johnson, has a propensity for telling little fibs to the police.

Might not be the best witness to put under cross examination.

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Star Witness In Michael Brown Shooting Charged With Theft, Filing False Police Report
By Larry O'Connor 21 hours ago
Dorian Johnson, the primary witness to the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, has an outstanding warrant for a 2011 theft in Jefferson City and pleaded guilty for filing a false police report related to that theft.
St. Louis ABC affiliate ABC 17 cross referenced Johnson’s name against several records and discovered the warrant.
Johnson will be the star witness for any potential prosecution proceedings against Officer Darren Wilson for the shooting of Brown. Johnson was walking with Brown when the shooting occurred.
...and...

Dorian Johnson is now a federal witness.

The FBI will figure him and this out and will shake all the nonsense out of it.

You might not like the findings.

Meantime the FPD has been so busy protecting the perp Wilson a reporter who'd cross referenced names and records had to inform them of the 2011 stuff that's still outstanding.

Your boyz are cold molasses.

And just as sticky.

Johnson is a proven liar. If he lies to the FBI he'll be guilty of perjury and go where he should be- in jail.

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the shooting was justified,

the amount of bullets, not material,

this was a felon, with a wanted felon beside him,

case closed

Slow down, the boy was shot in cold blood. Initially, his mother stated he was a good lad and had recently graduated from college.

In the succeeding days it appears that he wasn't such a good boy with a propensity to bully his way through life.

Mother subsequently downgrades his humility to 'wasn't an angel' and perforations in his supposedly good character flood his previously held high-standing civic status.

Case closed, indeed.

< the boy was shot in cold blood>

Oh, I wasn't aware that you were an eye witness.

Nothing cold blooded about the cop getting beaten up in his car by a thug.

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Once again you state the so called victim was on his knees with his hands in the air. Why do you keep repeating this when there is absolutely no evidence for this apart from the account from the man who assisted the so called victim in the robbery prior to this mans death and who we now know has a history of lying to the police and is wanted for outstanding warrants ?

It seems that Publicus is writing the same fiction that he keeps accusing others of.

You guys are funny laugh.png

In more ways than one cheesy.gif

Don Lemon on CNN reported last Wednesday that the killer cop Wilson did not suffer a fractured or broken eye socket, that Wilson was instead treated at hospital for swelling around his face and eyes.

CNN said Wilson's X-rays came back negative for a fractured eye socket. Lemon cited a "source close to the investigation and that source says it is not true, at all, he did not have a torn eye socket. Unequivocally."

Yet the prolific and massively financed right wingnut media circulated the lie that Wilson had a fractured eye socket, a lie that is regularly and frequently repeated here..

A right wing blogger published purported X-rays showing an eye fracture. Trouble is the X-rays had "UNIV OF IOWA" enscripted in the lower right corner. That was changed by the right wing blogger a few hours later by obliterating the source reference of the X-rays. Ferguson is of course nowhere near Iowa, some 200 miles away from it.

But the Big Lie continues to circulate. Is it a lie or is it fiction, and what would be the difference?

As if a cop getting roughed up by an unarmed suspect justifies homicide by the cop.

The right wingnuts are a riot clap2.gif

A lynch mob.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/22/1323724/-CNN-reports-Broken-Eye-Socket-didn-t-happen

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I watched Lemon get into an argument with a weapons expert invited to be on his panel yesterday morning.

Lemon kept trying to tell the panel member that automatic weapons could be bought because he had done so.

Lemon claimed he could buy an AR-15 and it was an automatic weapon because as he claimed..."It shoots lots of bullets".

That's the point when I turned CNN off.

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Once again the Ferguson police department are carrying on as if they were a top secret clandestine organization whose work is subject to no one's review or supervision, least of all that of the public.

First the FPD withheld the name of Darren Wilson the homicide cop who killed the unarmed teenager Michael Brown who had been running away from Wilson chasing after him while blasting away his firearm.

Then the police did not require Wilson to file a report. Then Wilson filed a report that had only limited information. Now Wilson has written his report but it is heavily redacted by the FPD.

This investigation being conducted by the Ferguson police department is a joke.

ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael Brown's death violates law Heavily-redacted document omits key public information

A police report on the death of Michael Brown is missing key information and violates Missouri open records laws, an ACLU attorney told Yahoo News on Friday.

The two-page document, which the Ferguson Police Department released only after pressure from journalists and civil liberties advocates, is largely redacted or left blank. The most egregious omissions are the victim’s name and a description of the offense – the fatal shooting of Brown.

“They are breaking the law,” said Tony Rothert, legal director of the ACLU of Missouri.

http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-releases-incomplete-police-report-on-death-of-michael-brown-221844542.html

The Ferguson mob of Dirty Harry conspirators are pissing up a rope however as the FBI in its own investigation has flown all of the physical evidence it has collected to its lab in Quantico VA, to include shell casings and trajectories, blood patterns, clothing and other items that are crucial to determining what happened and when.

U.S. Sen Claire McCaskill of Missouri said she will conduct a Senate hearing next month to investigate Brown's homicide to include calling witnesses and the police principals. Of course the police chief and others in the Ferguson crime hierarchy and its Dirty Harry Syndrome may be former cops by then.

Dorian Johnson is a federal witness now so the FBI will sort these things out.

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Inflammatory, baiting posts have been removed. If you have nothing to add to the discussion, please stop posting. Remarks about what other posters are saying is not acceptable.

Continued trolling in this matter will earn a suspension.

Stay on the topic, please.

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I also notice the lefty posters here simply totally ignored the list of white men and women killed by blacks and never reported as they do every day.

These deaths were reported. And some of them are made up. Inga Evans for example. Not sure what the point of the list is without detail and with fabricated deaths. Were the people caught and convicted for these killings? Surely that's going to be the difference. Put some effort into the list, some context.

The points are well taken.

To which I would add, for the list to be even relevant nevermind material - analogous - the poster would need to present data showing the shooter was a police officer and the victim had his/her hands up in the air alongside and/or over the head in the act of surrendering when shot.

Given the points you make and the core matter of true analogy, the poster is wasting bandwidth not to mention using up valuable oxygen somewhere.

Anywhere.

Once again you state the so called victim was on his knees with his hands in the air. Why do you keep repeating this when there is absolutely no evidence for this apart from the account from the man who assisted the so called victim in the robbery prior to this mans death and who we now know has a history of lying to the police and is wanted for outstanding warrants ?

Other eye witness accounts have the dead man running towards the officer.

The fact is more black people kill black people yet this is ignored. Deal with it !

It is the case that certain police departments in the United States are protecting police when the departments know the police are wrong.

And the departments protecting police who they know are wrong themselves know they are wrong in doing so.

It's called the Dirty Harry Syndrome and the Dirty Harry Syndrome is all over and throughout the Ferguson Police Department.

FBI: US police involved in 400 killings per year

Nearly two times a week in the United States, a white police officer killed a black person during a seven-year period ending in 2012, according to the most recent accounts of justifiable homicide reported to the FBI.

On average, there were 96 such incidents among at least 400 police killings each year that were reported to the FBI by local police.

The numbers appear to show that the shooting of a black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri, last Saturday was not an isolated event in American policing.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/15/375410/us-police-involved-in-400-deaths-per-year/

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