Germany: Former Nazi guard charged over 300,000 Auschwitz murders

[TheFishman1]

Gas Him

[uptheos]

It's good to see that they are able to prosecute a war criminal. I just hope that those who are committing and are responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity today and in recent years get prosecuted and sentenced much quicker!

Examples: Kim Jong-un, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, George W. Bush, Benjamin Netanyahu and so on!

That is my point. We trying to hunt people for a war 70 years ago, but can't handle it in our time

We'll hunt them in 70 years.

Meanwhile let us old codgers have our day.

[wabothai]

No merci at any time for these horrendous crimes against humanity.

[KonKorat]

He was just a guard,he was probably only taking orders from above.

[tw25rw]

It has nothing to do with he's age. Sometimes people has to forgive. It's 70 years ago. And yes it was a dark time, even a lot of people from my country was loosing people.

But forgiveness after 70 years should be possibly

The Nazis killed old people too. He will be getting justice they never got. I'm for letting him out, but the truth needs to be known.

[Jingthing]

He was just a guard,he was probably only taking orders from above.

Tell it to the judge.

[o2eZy]

itis crimes against humanity ...ISIL will be the same...or will we forget what has happened to the 3

innocent men who have had their heads removed by a long process using a hand knife....what would these 3 men have thought when they were having their head cut off....it would not have been instant...we want these assassins brought to justice and if it takes 50 years then so be it

[JonathanBP]

I think those who are saying 'he was 23 and old enough to know better' have clearly forgotten what it is to be 23 years old and under a HUGE amount of not only peer group pressure. Nazis were like the mafia, if you disobey, it is no only you but your entire family who pay the price. 23 is not much more than being a boy and thirsting for his blood, punishment and suffering now simply ads more sorrow to the world. Once we've hunted down and punished all of the world's wrong doers, eventually there won't be anyone left. Calling him 'evil' is based on ignorance in my view - for it ignores the reality of a 23 year old caught up in the system. Could he have been more courageous? Probably yes, would it have cost him his life? Probably, yes. No-one who was 23 at the time should be put on trial for the actions of his commanding officers

[slipperylobster]

For good sake, he's 93 years old, stop talking about all this ww2. Hunting old people. He's properly already on the way to the die.

Hope he burns in hell...whatever.

Whether he dies naturally or from hanging.

[Jean Pierre Jacquot]

What, he was in the baggage section and is being charged for 300,000 murders? Totally crazy! There is not one mention of him having killed anybody. And if being in the baggage receiving section makes him a killer, well, we would have to charge any survivor of WWII, because they all knew it, or at least suspected it. And this includes of course the Allies as well.

[carter1882]

Were the moderators asleep when the person posted about the gassing not taking place. If you allow this sort of post the next thing is it leads to complete denial of the murder that took place. Holocaust denial is rightly illegal in many a place and this site only loses further credibility when posters with nonsensical and irrational views are allowed to vent. The holocause,the killing fields, Rwanda and other disasters for humanity must be presented to the young in a rational and proper way. To allow these posters room will only lead to the greater likelihood of repetition.

[Jean Pierre Jacquot]

For good sake, he's 93 years old, stop talking about all this ww2. Hunting old people. He's properly already on the way to the die.

There is no time limit for the atrocities that were committed during WW2 by the Nazi party. It's a shame they didn't find out sooner, but at the same time, he had to live with his actions all these years.

Either you have no concept of history and or you were never touched by what happened then.

Keep teaching, never forget, every child should know, or history has a way of repeating itself.

Forgetting and forgiving is two different things.

Yes, we will and shall never forget but yes, we should forgive. And if you need an 'egoistic' reason for forgiving hear you go: As long as we don't forgive we are the ones who suffer.

[carstenp]

For good sake, he's 93 years old, stop talking about all this ww2. Hunting old people. He's properly already on the way to the die.

There is no time limit for the atrocities that were committed during WW2 by the Nazi party. It's a shame they didn't find out sooner, but at the same time, he had to live with his actions all these years.

Either you have no concept of history and or you were never touched by what happened then.

Keep teaching, never forget, every child should know, or history has a way of repeating itself.

Forgetting and forgiving is two different things.

Yes, we will and shall never forget but yes, we should forgive. And if you need an 'egoistic' reason for forgiving hear you go: As long as we don't forgive we are the ones who suffer.

So true, so true

[Jean Pierre Jacquot]

For good sake, he's 93 years old, stop talking about all this ww2. Hunting old people. He's properly already on the way to the die.

Really, so this is your take on the holocaust? is that all you got out of it? leave him alone

it happened 60 years ago? have you learned nothing?

so he's 93 eh? how many 93 old people did he helped to kill? no one than told him to leave

them alone and forgot about them..

being an ignorant is not a crime, showing it, is....

I don't want to talk more about this. For me forgiveness is the most imported thing in the world.

He was not in command, he just followed order, and that time for 70 years ago. Do you think he cut say no

He has being living with this all his live. Properly lived in he's dream, people he sees on the street remind him on the days where he was command to do what he was doing.

For me he's forgiven for he's sins, even my father in laws has forgiven people from this time, even he has lost 3 brother.

This is forgiveness.

This is not about forgiveness, or putting on trial a decrepit old Nazi, and it's not about being too long

ago or he was just following orders, It's about remembering and learning and making sure that no

one ever, EVER, will repeat such atrocities, not to the Jews and not to any body in this world,

This is what it is all about....

Wondering how putting a 93 old man to prison for being a simple guard at some holocaust camp is ensuring that no one ever is doing such atrocities again. It is more about revenge and nothing else.

[Rimmer]

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[Jean Pierre Jacquot]

"You have heard that it was said, 'AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.' "But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.…"

[Bababooey]

The Holocaust was deplorable and despicable.

However, this man was not a Nazi. He was a conscripted German soldier.

Realistically, what should have this soldier done differently?

[Jingthing]

The Holocaust was deplorable and despicable.

However, this man was not a Nazi. He was a conscripted German soldier.

Realistically, what should have this soldier done differently?

The OP clearly says he was indeed a Nazi. The "special" SS kind as well.

member of the Nazi Waffen-SS

Edited September 16, 2014 by Jingthing

[Baerboxer]

It has nothing to do with he's age. Sometimes people has to forgive. It's 70 years ago. And yes it was a dark time, even a lot of people from my country was loosing people.

But forgiveness after 70 years should be possibly

Not possible in these cases.

But don't worry, they will all be dead soon enough.

Then your issue of the Nazi criminals being too old will fade away.

If there is no forgiveness for the Nazi mass murderers, then there should not be for any guilty of similar crimes either.

The genocide committed by the Turks on the Armenians, the anti Jewish programs of the Russians, the vile atrocities committed by the Japanese against the Chines prior to and during WW2, the appalling war crimes committed by the Japanese against those they invaded and POW's - all intentional but rarely punished. The native population of the Congo was reduced by 50% under Belgian colonial rule, with some of the cruelest slave labor regimes of any imperialist power. No consequence.

Seems who the victims makes a difference - and it shouldn't do where justice is concerned.

[Ulysses G.]

The Holocaust was deplorable and despicable.

However, this man was not a Nazi. He was a conscripted German soldier.

Realistically, what should have this soldier done differently?

He was a member of the Waffen SS. They were never part of the regular army and were all volunteers until later in the war. In the Nuremberg Trials, the Waffen-SS was condemned as a criminal organization due to its essential connection to the Nazi Party and its involvement in war crimes and the Holocaust.

[ResandePohm]

The Holocaust was deplorable and despicable.

However, this man was not a Nazi. He was a conscripted German soldier.

Realistically, what should have this soldier done differently?

He was certainly a Nazi. He was Waffen SS

[Baerboxer]

The Holocaust was deplorable and despicable.

However, this man was not a Nazi. He was a conscripted German soldier.

Realistically, what should have this soldier done differently?

The OP clearly says he was indeed a Nazi. The "special" SS kind as well.

member of the Nazi Waffen-SS

The Waffen SS were elite fighting troops. I doubt he was a member of one of their regiments.

The SS death camp guards were not the same; and certainly not conscripted. Many of the low rank guards were Ukrainian, Croats, Slovenians and such, united by the intense dislike of Jews.

Waffen SS did commit atrocities but not in the death camps.

[Jingthing]

Holocaust Denial Lite^TM

[AnotherOneAmerican]

For good sake, he's 93 years old, stop talking about all this ww2. Hunting old people. He's properly already on the way to the die.

There must be no time limit on this or any other atrocity or crime against humanity. This guy has had his freedom and normal life for seventy years or so - more than any of his alleged victims or, importantly, their families and survivors.

If guilty, HIS family should know about it and suffer the shame of it.

So what if he is half dead already? Justice may have been slow to catch up with him, and others, but justice must be seen to be done, if only as a warning to those who may think there is a universal 'statute of limitation'.

Shot at age 20 for refusing orders or live to age 90 then a trial and rest of your life in comfy nursing home at taxpayers expense?

I know which one I would choose.

Along with everyone else including the Jews.

Edited September 16, 2014 by AnotherOneAmerican

[sevenhills]

It has nothing to do with he's age. Sometimes people has to forgive. It's 70 years ago. And yes it was a dark time, even a lot of people from my country was loosing people.

But forgiveness after 70 years should be possibly

Not possible in these cases.

But don't worry, they will all be dead soon enough.

Then your issue of the Nazi criminals being too old will fade away.

That's the problem Jingthing....Sure they will all be dead soon enough, But our "Corporate Governments" want all this History to "Fade away". Most people should learn to stay away from the “Lame Stream Media” and do some real Research. And, if one Forgets History, and does not learn from it, then they are bound to re live it. This is again happening as we speak. Peace.

[connda]

93 years old? Thank God in another 10 years there won't be anyone left alive from that era.

[MAJIC]

The good things about Better Health care,Better food and good housing is people can also live longer and some can reach the age of 93. Doe's that mean an evil murdering animal like this one should be treated gently,most certainly not,this creature has already lived much too long!

[Seastallion]

Were the moderators asleep when the person posted about the gassing not taking place. If you allow this sort of post the next thing is it leads to complete denial of the murder that took place. Holocaust denial is rightly illegal in many a place and this site only loses further credibility when posters with nonsensical and irrational views are allowed to vent. The holocause,the killing fields, Rwanda and other disasters for humanity must be presented to the young in a rational and proper way. To allow these posters room will only lead to the greater likelihood of repetition.

I have read no holocaust denial in this thread. The chap that wrote about there may have been no gas chambers is in no way a denier...he readily agrees there were death camps etc, but suggests the manner of death may not be as sensational as "gas chambers".

Have YOU researched it so much that you visited Auswitz 3 times? He has. He's worth listening to in my opinion.

[kleelof]

Don't bother debating with holocaust deniers. It's like debating with tin foil hat conspiracy theorists.

Hey, don't get us foil hatters involved in his crap.

[carstenp]

The good things about Better Health care,Better food and good housing is people can also live longer and some can reach the age of 93. Doe's that mean an evil murdering animal like this one should be treated gently,most certainly not,this creature has already lived much too long!

I understand your post. He is a animal and should be threaten by one. Questing is who is the animal now, him or us...Forgive for got sake