Murder suspects charged

[crazykopite]

No doubt they will be executed by next week in the hope that come the high season everything will be back to normal ,I have grave doubts about these two guys I believe they have been made escape goats I only hope that during the trial if it is a public trial as the country is under military rule that outside agencies from around the world will be allowed to attend to ensure a fair and proper trial.

[kkup]

I can just imagine leaving the phone of the person I just murdered in my backyard.. lol

[stevehaigh]

why is he holding a dust pan? The Burmese still have to work even after been arrested?

[RBOP]

I hope they strongly investigate the manger of the AC Club. Was he obstructing the investigation and diverting attention away. Was he trying to protect the image of AC Club? Did he know something?

[lildragon]

If the DNA evidence is verified and approved by a legitimate outside source then I'll believe it. If Not then daeng more innocents may die all In the name of corruption and face savings.

[PungShoeWrote]

Any guesses on how much the suspects accepted $$$ to become the fall guy’s?

[6NS]

A damaged iPhone belonging to one of the victims is found in bushes behind the house where Win, one of the suspects, lives.

This phone ?

victims-phone-given-to-police-day-after-murder-photo.jpg

This is proof to through the entire case on these guys OUT in any civilized country. Where are we?

[thesetat2013]

Even my thai wife and all her FB friends are commenting this arrest is a farce and their evidence is too neat. Like finding that broken phone behind their house. With the hundreds of police there looking for the killers and evidence why would they leave a phone there implicating themselves. Also her friends are doubtful of the DNA evidence because these men worked at the bar in front of where they were last seen and killled. So all the workers there would have been DNA tested first

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[Deli]

The whole story stinks but after some weeks... it will be a kind of forgotten, for sure not by the families of the victims.

In the end of the day it is ' take it or leave (it), nothing to do about it.

[Mackie]

I hope they strongly investigate the manger of the AC Club. Was he obstructing the investigation and diverting attention away. Was he trying to protect the image of AC Club? Did he know something?

Of course he knew all about those illegal immigrants working on the island with his blessing. He made a fortunate out of illegal labour and defrauded the Thai state. I assume he made billions of baht by not paying any contributions to the Thai social security system not to mention taxes over the years. In any case, whether his family was involved or not, Thai state has the case against him and his cronies on the island. They've been defrauding the state for ages. He will have to pay small fortune to get off the hook. Some high ranking police officers just couldn't believe their luck.

[lostinisaan]

Tour business operators yesterday lit 5,000 firecrackers to celebrate the arrests of the two suspects, and said they believed both men were the real culprits. A merit-making ceremony was later held on Chor Por Ror beach, where the bodies were found, to bless the area.

And the ghosts left with the night ferry on the same day...

[coma]

A damaged iPhone belonging to one of the victims is found in bushes behind the house where Win, one of the suspects, lives.

This phone ?

victims-phone-given-to-police-day-after-murder-photo.jpg

If they steal phones in this part of the world they sell them. Not throw them away.

BIB are just digging a bigger hole for themselves.

[NongKhaiKid]

"Citing from the "confessions" of the two suspects, police said they entered Thailand about two weeks before the double murders, at dawn on September 15, and worked at AC Pub as general workers. The men said they hardly left the pub, as they had limited knowledge of the Thai language."

And yet they were able to under go interrogation and presumably sign confessions. Hope their translator was a good one.

Dare I ask what interpreter ? The men presumably spoke Burmese and their own regional dialect so was an officially certified interpreter supplied by their embassy for example or as we may suspect it was all done in Thai and they ' freely ' confessed ?

A good defence lawyer, if there is such a thing here would drive a coach and horses through this sort of thing IF there's a trial but what's the odds on a guilty plea ?

[minikev]

If they were sexually aroused and planned to rape Hannah. They then bludgened David to the back of the head ,they then fought with David and dragged him to the sea where he drowned they then ran back and grabbed Hannah who obviously didn't try to run away and they were still sexually aroused enough to rape her. I'm sure if I had got into a fight of any kind I would have forgotten about the sex drive. It doesn't add up something is wrong.

[KamalaRider]

For those posters who seem convinced the headman's son committed the murders, do you really think if he killed the couple he would simply leave the bodies on the beach? With his resources they would surely have taken the bodies out to sea and dumped them, to save his own skin and protect the family business.

What could be worse for an island/ hotel/club or guesthouse than to have2 corpses bludgeoned to death in front of your business that relies on tourists?

Anyone with a vested interest in the island's business would have hidden those bodies if they had been the perpretators.

Now you are thinking as a westerner, c'mon, this is still Thailand.

I don't say the two burmese guys didn't do it, but until the evidence and all DNA have been cleared with an outside agency, I hold my breath.

[apalink_thailand]

A damaged iPhone belonging to one of the victims is found in bushes behind the house where Win, one of the suspects, lives.

This phone ?

victims-phone-given-to-police-day-after-murder-photo.jpg

Most people have more than one phone nowadays i use three one for work one for thailand one for my home country

Ok, its possible. A Burmese migrant spends a whopping 5,000 Baht to be smuggled into Thailand a few weeks ago, gets a job as a bartender (probably paid a handsome salary too) and buys himself 2 mobile phones. You know, one for the wife's calls and the other for calls to all his girlfriends. He can afford it.

[lostinisaan]

A damaged iPhone belonging to one of the victims is found in bushes behind the house where Win, one of the suspects, lives.

This phone ?

victims-phone-given-to-police-day-after-murder-photo.jpg

If they steal phones in this part of the world they sell them. Not throw them away.

BIB are just digging a bigger hole for themselves.

Nobody would throw a phone away here. Especially not smashing and leave it behind the house. That smells very fishy. Evidence?

[LennyW]

[Borzandy]

These two guys seem the ideal culprits. Non Thai, young, illegal migrants, almost unlettered, don't know what is DNA...

[FangFerang]

For those posters who seem convinced the headman's son committed the murders, do you really think if he killed the couple he would simply leave the bodies on the beach? With his resources they would surely have taken the bodies out to sea and dumped them, to save his own skin and protect the family business.

What could be worse for an island/ hotel/club or guesthouse than to have2 corpses bludgeoned to death in front of your business that relies on tourists?

Anyone with a vested interest in the island's business would have hidden those bodies if they had been the perpretators.

U dont know that.. if it was his 2 sons they maybe were drunk or on some drugs or idk...

But anyway i have a probably good if not the best question... coz i am always reading about DNA this UK that... so my question to you guys is (hopefully someone is here who knows a bit about the THAI law):

they are now the acused and will have a trial date right? so usually every lawyer has the right to bring expert witnesses into court.. so the easiest way (the UK has her body and the samples of the seamen DNA) is for the lawyer to get an UK expertwitness Scotland Yard or the FBI i read wanted to be involved too and just check the DNA himself with the DNA of these to burmese....

so the question is that possible to bing an expert witness from another country?

I had exactly the same idea. Exactly.

[Asiantravel]

There has been nothing on the Uk news today about these arrests, but then again another Uk hostage has just been beheaded by Islamic state so that was wall to wall covarage.

at least there was this but read the number of comments of people in UK who are also sceptical kike this one " After the allegation of paying for a false witness I honestly cannot believe they have now neatly closed this case, even with DNA evidence they put forward. This whole investigation has been soiled by corruption and incompetence. I'd never now consider holidaying there."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/thailand-beach-murders-police-parade-burmese-suspects-in-reconstruction-of-killings-9772178.html

[bongoz]

For those posters who seem convinced the headman's son committed the murders, do you really think if he killed the couple he would simply leave the bodies on the beach? With his resources they would surely have taken the bodies out to sea and dumped them, to save his own skin and protect the family business.

What could be worse for an island/ hotel/club or guesthouse than to have2 corpses bludgeoned to death in front of your business that relies on tourists?

Anyone with a vested interest in the island's business would have hidden those bodies if they had been the perpretators.

You are forgetting the Thai mentality and the ability to think about the future!

Also the more people involved in the crime the higher the chance of loose lips and a ship sinking.

[chrisinth]

If indeed the DNA matches with the three suspects, 2 against the semen and one from the cigarette filter, and they have confessed then maybe I owe an apology for my thoughts against the way the police have come to this result.

However, I can't get it out of my head that this is not the full story. That there are people still out there with information that would expand what we have seen so far. What happened that night, and the sequence of events as we are being told, are not natural actions of any sane person regardless of whoever committed the crimes or where they came from.

My thoughts keep going back to the reported altercation that happened in the bar with the victims. Is it possible that these three were told to make an example of the victims by whoever was involved in the argument and things got out of hand?

It would not be the first time that someone was guilty of the execution of the crime but not necessarily guilty of the planning of said crime.

For clarity, these are only my thoughts on this, it is not my intention to add more smoke and mirrors. However, that said, I always see convenient outcomes as covering up a much larger picture.

[bongoz]

Dear tourists, you should feel safe now on Koh Tao with 200 cops....

That would be 200 incompetent and corrupt cops!!!

[Soutpeel]

For those posters who seem convinced the headman's son committed the murders, do you really think if he killed the couple he would simply leave the bodies on the beach? With his resources they would surely have taken the bodies out to sea and dumped them, to save his own skin and protect the family business.

What could be worse for an island/ hotel/club or guesthouse than to have2 corpses bludgeoned to death in front of your business that relies on tourists?

Anyone with a vested interest in the island's business would have hidden those bodies if they had been the perpretators.

Yes if he was that arrogant and confident that he couldn't be "touched" because of his position/influence on the island.

people with "power" are hardly worried about leaving a few corpses lying around, in fact if it became "common knowledge", that he did do it, it would enhance his "reputation" on KT to show how "powerful" he was...

in fact if the Burmese guys had done it, considering the circumstances one would have expected them to attempt to hid the bodies to try and cover up what happened and it seems they didnt.

[sangfroid]

A half decent defence lawyer will shred the prosecution case before morning tea time.

[NelsonHubbucks]

All convenient and nicely wrapped up which of course everyone will accept without question.

What remains now is for them to plead guilty so little or no evidence, other than their ' confession ' needs to be produced and tested in court and they will hope their confession will be taken into account so they don't face the death penalty for screwing with Thais losing money over tourism, maybe that's part of the deal already.

Yes.! The "DEAL" must be exposed. Only then will the TRUTH be exposed.

[hugh2121]

jacknorman, on 04 Oct 2014 - 06:43, said:

ukrules, on 04 Oct 2014 - 06:24, said:

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A damaged iPhone belonging to one of the victims is found in bushes behind the house where Win, one of the suspects, lives.

This phone ?

victims-phone-given-to-police-day-after-murder-photo.jpg

Most people have more than one phone nowadays i use three one for work one for thailand one for my home country

Sure, most people do have more than one phone. BUT, how many do you take out with you when you're off to a bar????

[bannork]

For those posters who seem convinced the headman's son committed the murders, do you really think if he killed the couple he would simply leave the bodies on the beach? With his resources they would surely have taken the bodies out to sea and dumped them, to save his own skin and protect the family business.

What could be worse for an island/ hotel/club or guesthouse than to have2 corpses bludgeoned to death in front of your business that relies on tourists?

Anyone with a vested interest in the island's business would have hidden those bodies if they had been the perpretators.

Just like the politician's son arranged for the disposal at sea of the body of the police sergeant he shot in front of witnesses at point blank range in a night club I suppose.

I think you're mixed up, Suwit Rodwimut's cremation was attended by the police chief.You might be thinking of another case. Anyway was the headman's son on Koh Tao aggressive like Chalerm's sons, did he go round asking people in a threatening manner if they knew who his father was,( because they couldn't remember, the simpletons). Did the son have an argument with or about Hannah that night.? I haven't read any posts either describing incidents or his character.

[balo]

Once again I want to congratulate the Royal Thai Police for the good work despite all the thai bashing thats been going on since day 1 of the murders.

Yes we do have a DNA match and together with all the other evidences I am pretty confident the Myanmar workers are the killers.

But also we have our own CSI team on facebook and privat detectives here on Thaivisa and despite all the "evidence" they have provided I do not see any scapegoats here, even if it can look like it if we only listened to gossip instead of real facts.

Edited October 4, 2014 by balo