If the day ever comes that I can manage to open a True Visions bill without turning it into a jig saw puzzle....then I will know for sure that "I have arrived".....After 12 years of receiving them I still cannot do it. Maybe somebody knows where I can take a course to study the technique involved to achieve this goal?

A pair of scissors.

Is my tool of choice.

Or just don't bother,hand it to the cashier unopened.

This method works very well.

I agree with the OP. whenever I open mine it's always at the wrong fold, even when I rip off the ends and look inside I still get it wrong, could just be age catching up

Mai Pen Rai....

When you have learned that, you have mastered the Thai way of life.

Nothing matters, and what if it did?

Everything magically falls into place once you have learned this.

Now, I just smile like everyone else.

Choke Dee!

i can easily bet it's op being a dunce rather than the true vision people somehow making their bill confusing.

i can easily bet it's op being a dunce rather than the true vision people somehow making their bill confusing.

I was wondering how long it would take for same same to rear it's head. Some people just don't have a sense of humour.

A pair of scissors.

Is my tool of choice.

Or just don't bother,hand it to the cashier unopened.

This method works very well.

Ah yes Hedghog.............but where to make the incision...that is the question.

Took me a while to master opening those little bags of nam pla they give you with your takeaway fried rice etc. Back in the days I thought " I reckon I'm doing this wrong" when I stuck a knife in the bag and the whole lot sprayed out in my face.

Direct debit from bank account works well and you don't need to open your bill anumore.

No reason to open mine my gf collects the mail and subsequently opens same and auto pays at 7 eleven,saving me effort and more importantly her money not mine lol.

Took me a while to master opening those little bags of nam pla they give you with your takeaway fried rice etc. Back in the days I thought " I reckon I'm doing this wrong" when I stuck a knife in the bag and the whole lot sprayed out in my face.

I still have problems with anything takeaway tied with the rubber band. Noodle soup I only manage to open 1 in 5 without having to attack it with a pair of scissors/knife

Took me a while to master opening those little bags of nam pla they give you with your takeaway fried rice etc. Back in the days I thought " I reckon I'm doing this wrong" when I stuck a knife in the bag and the whole lot sprayed out in my face.

I still have problems with anything takeaway tied with the rubber band. Noodle soup I only manage to open 1 in 5 without having to attack it with a pair of scissors/knife

Yes, same.

I have started watching very closely to the way they put the rubber band on in the hope of reverse engineering it when I get home.

Unfortunately, there seems to be several versions of the twist and double back, so my efforts have gone unrewarded so far.

As for the little bags of sauce....turn them upside down and snip the corner off.

I am more pissed off with the continuous SAME LONG adverts day after day that we have seen a zillion times than paying the bill....

I am more pissed off with the continuous SAME LONG adverts day after day that we have seen a zillion times than paying the bill....

Now that you mention it.....I wish to God someday they would change the tune "There's no place like home" at the kids hurdy gurdies in the shopping malls where I'm trying to enjoy a Cone Dip.

I just pay online through KasikornBank on the 25th of every month. Been 1568.12 Baht for some 11 years now. I still get the bill/receipt every month and still can't figure how it's supposed to open. 5555555 -- Could never figure the Rubik Cube either.

Edit: Typo, 65+ and still can't type as well! 555

I take the true visions bill unopened to the true vision desk manned by two ladies and watch them try to open it. So you pay the bill and also get a show.

i can easily bet it's op being a dunce rather than the true vision people somehow making their bill confusing.

I was wondering how long it would take for same same to rear it's head. Some people just don't have a sense of humour.

Mate ... just ignore the negative comments from the ultimate weapon () ... we do ... often.

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Took me a while to master opening those little bags of nam pla they give you with your takeaway fried rice etc. Back in the days I thought " I reckon I'm doing this wrong" when I stuck a knife in the bag and the whole lot sprayed out in my face.

mca ... the trick there is to not 'open' them.

Just grab a pair of scissors and snip the corner (bottom of the bag) off them and the sauce pours easily.

I just watched what the Thai GF # 1, 2, 3, 4 did ... because, like you, I was frustrated.

No problem for me, the wife just opens all bills and pays them.

Don't worry, she asks for the money later......

If it was for me we would be without electricity, water, internet, television for a long time now...................

When you accept the Thai people and find them "as they are".....and realize somewhere along the way they do the same for us.....we are in "their house".....if you find fault and want them to change you've lost before you even started.....

I managed it once, dotpoom. It was an incredible experience. The bill just floated open in my hands for a brief moment I felt one with the world. I could see each individual raindrop as it fell, a unique construction that would never be exactly replicated. I could hear babies sleeping across the world. I realised we were all one, a collection of atoms, that death was merely the rearrangement of these atoms into something else, and in that moment I let go of all the pain, the misery, the desire, and I just existed.

And then I realised I was paying for Platinum even though the football was now on CTH and it seemed that True were just rotating the same bad movies, including that awful Adam Sandler film "Jack and Jill" which appears to be showing every time I turn the TV on, and in that moment all hope was lost.

Thais are dexterous, no point in trying to emulate them.

My mother has been crocheting for 40 years, my wife shows her up in 3. They are just plain good at weaving, knitting, crafty things....and opening a True Visions bill.

My True bill never arrives. I have asked and requested etc - even the online one is a balls-up.

So what I do is go in with the ONE that did arrive the first month. They have to keep stapling the receipt onto it - on top of the previous ones. Its getting pretty difficult for them - even just to open it to get the account number.

I put on my self-effacing - sorry, but the bill never arrives shrug and mention.

Childish maybe, but attrition is the key to achieving your goal in LoS - keep your patience, smile and shaft away!

You...my friend...live a charmed life...if this is all you have to be concerned about...

Thais are dexterous, no point in trying to emulate them.

My mother has been crocheting for 40 years, my wife shows her up in 3. They are just plain good at weaving, knitting, crafty things....and opening a True Visions bill.

True that, they make most foreigners look like rtards when it comes down to fiddly things. As for rubber banded food items I managed to figure those with the wrap around double back on itself thing. True move bill Il just stay pre paid for the phone and keep paying wifi at the condo and live in bliss:) ✌

I don't understand.......

Where is that geezer that lives in a Soi and presumably cycles everywhere, you know, The Oracle, The knower of all things Thai.

Surely he must preach to everyone here about this in his very smug and arrogant style

Direct debit from bank account works well and you don't need to open your bill anumore.

Ever tried to cancel one ??? lol

A pair of scissors.

Is my tool of choice.

Or just don't bother,hand it to the cashier unopened.

This method works very well.

I tell them to send it to me as a PDF attachment to an email and then I just print it out. I agree I've never managed to open one of their statements sent in the mail without ending up either with three small separate pieces of paper or a single sheet with the bottom part printed the wrong way around and at the top.

I usually renew annually or semi-annually and I've noticed the past few times, between the time they phone to tell me I'm about to be billed and the time when I get around to paying it, I get all the channels. As soon as I pay, I go back to getting the Gold channels only.

I managed it once, dotpoom. It was an incredible experience. The bill just floated open in my hands for a brief moment I felt one with the world. I could see each individual raindrop as it fell, a unique construction that would never be exactly replicated. I could hear babies sleeping across the world. I realised we were all one, a collection of atoms, that death was merely the rearrangement of these atoms into something else, and in that moment I let go of all the pain, the misery, the desire, and I just existed.

And then I realised I was paying for Platinum even though the football was now on CTH and it seemed that True were just rotating the same bad movies, including that awful Adam Sandler film "Jack and Jill" which appears to be showing every time I turn the TV on, and in that moment all hope was lost.

So fantastic you understand Rumblecat. This is exactly the "Awakening" I am hoping to experience when I master the "Opening". It's so good to hear it from the very lips (fingers) of one who has been "Enlightened...and not just some secondhand experience. You received the gift of "Awareness" and straight away you seen that you were subscribing to the wrong bl - - dy people. Be grateful though....the dawning of the day has come for you.