British police arrive in Thailand to observe Koh Tao murder probe

[changnaam]

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/one-tourist-murder-suspect-now-arrested-another-run/

RTP did try and find the killers. They caught some of the group, then money, cover up and a change of police personnel kicked in. Absolutely they can do a good job when they want to, or are not encouraged "not" to do a good job.

To MR JD and JTJ,

Many people have answered your questions and comments, there is one question and report which you are both doing your best to ignore. Please could you read the Thai PBS report above and give us your view on this.

Is this article a figment of our imagination?

Did the police chief claim they had identified the killers?

With seemingly comprehensive evidence?

What in your opinion changed the focus of the investigation?

Thanks in advance

[jdinasia]

Not a figment and answered many times.

[elektrified]

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/one-tourist-murder-suspect-now-arrested-another-run/

RTP did try and find the killers. They caught some of the group, then money, cover up and a change of police personnel kicked in. Absolutely they can do a good job when they want to, or are not encouraged "not" to do a good job.

To MR JD and JTJ,

Many people have answered your questions and comments, there is one question and report which you are both doing your best to ignore. Please could you read the Thai PBS report above and give us your view on this.

Is this article a figment of our imagination?

Did the police chief claim they had identified the killers?

With seemingly comprehensive evidence?

What in your opinion changed the focus of the investigation?

Thanks in advance

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/one-tourist-murder-suspect-now-arrested-another-run/

Keep posting to make people aware of what is going on here. And to counter the apologists attempts to cover up the truth.

"The police have arrested a suspect in the murder of two British tourists in Koh Tao and are still hunting for a second suspect who has escaped into Bangkok.

Eighth Region Police Command commissioner Pol Lt-Gen Panya Mamen identified the first suspect as Mon.

He is the brother of a village headman in Koh Tao.

<snip>."

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Edited October 26, 2014 by Jai Dee
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[changnaam]

Not a figment and answered many times.

Sorry I have not seen these questions answered by you, I am interested to hear your view. As I said people answer your questions, give us your opinion on those questions, it will take 2 minutes.

[transam]

Not a figment and answered many times.

Well tell us again.

We ALL know you and JTJ have interests on KT, so probably in the "know" too. Seems strange that the Island knows who were involved yet you two "don't". Strange that ain't it....

[jdinasia]

Not a figment and answered many times.

Sorry I have not seen these questions answered by you, I am interested to hear your view. As I said people answer your questions, give us your opinion on those questions, it will take 2 minutes.

Actually people don't answer my questions.

Feel free to scroll through posts and find replies.

I am heading out for coffee, then a ride to Khao Yai

[StealthEnergiser]

Not a figment and answered many times.

Well tell us again.

We ALL know you and JTJ have interests on KT, so probably in the "know" too. Seems strange that the Island knows who were involved yet you two "don't". Strange that ain't it....

maybe the police should also look up a guy by the name of Clause who lives on the island he also has been defending them , and is possibly one of these that you have mentioned.

Just look at the jet ski scams how thai mafia use foriegners to assist in extorting money from tourists.

Some of these poster may have been paid or know something more than we do.

Edited October 26, 2014 by StealthEnergiser

[Fat Haggis]

I know someone from KT who told me in an email last week that many of the KT people/residents were far from happy at the arrests that were made, or the performance of the local police.

He Has a vested interest in the Island

Things are not what they appear to be, nor are they otherwise

[Thaddeus]

Not a figment and answered many times.

Sorry I have not seen these questions answered by you, I am interested to hear your view. As I said people answer your questions, give us your opinion on those questions, it will take 2 minutes.

Actually people don't answer my questions.

Feel free to scroll through posts and find replies.

I am heading out for coffee, then a ride to Khao Yai

People don't answer your questions!!

Probably for the same reason that anyone with a grain of sense doesn't bother throwing marshmallows at a brick wall.

[Jai Dee]

Enough of the baiting and trolling thanks.

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[Johnsen]

The sad reality of this whole situation is there is not enough evidence to charge the 2 Burmese kids with murder. DNA for rape maybe but not murder. No fingerprints on the hoe, no blood stained clothes, no wine bottle, simply nothing.

[SteveFong]

I am surprised that people continue to respond to this guy,

All he is doing, is trying to degrade the threads, so people will argue with him, and the threads will then be closed

So far he has failed, and, I am glad the people he is antagonizing are not falling this.

Can anyone point out anything valid he has to say?

I have asked him to acknowledge, as many others have too, the FACT that the police had suspects in custody and a manhunt was begun,

until that fated phone call to the Bangkok police about who they were looking for, changed everything for everyone,

The murders and the utter brutality of the rape, was shocking,

The DRAMATIC change in the investigation and the Thai PM mocking her is what riled up social media

By the way, I want everyone to know, that the Google search engine is picking up the majority of the posts that use the words

such as "the Kho Tao killers"

and "Scotland Yard"

If you want to keep this fresh in the press, and on the desktops of reporters and journalists.

don't forget to identify what crime you are posting about

[jdinasia]

Fong

Nothing you claim is true. I am sure that won't stop you from continuing these claims though.

Police initially had one theory. Exculpatory evidence ended that line of questions. Evidence placed new suspects in the forefront of the investigation. DNA, the material witness, confessions, CCTV, etc gave them enough to bind the suspects over for trial.

There is no evidence of a BKK call. That's just a conspiracy theory.

[AGareth2]

reading there were 5 UK coppers on the island

2 had been there since Friday?

[ParadiseLost]

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/one-tourist-murder-suspect-now-arrested-another-run/

RTP did try and find the killers. They caught some of the group, then money, cover up and a change of police personnel kicked in. Absolutely they can do a good job when they want to, or are not encouraged "not" to do a good job.

They are also rewarded for doing a good job.

[jdinasia]

Not a figment and answered many times.

Well tell us again.

We ALL know you and JTJ have interests on KT, so probably in the "know" too. Seems strange that the Island knows who were involved yet you two "don't". Strange that ain't it....

I have no financial ties to Koh Tao.

The "island" does not know crap. Evidence that they don't is the lack of anyone coming forward. The claim they know is just another conspiracy theory.

[jdinasia]

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/one-tourist-murder-suspect-now-arrested-another-run/

RTP did try and find the killers. They caught some of the group, then money, cover up and a change of police personnel kicked in. Absolutely they can do a good job when they want to, or are not encouraged "not" to do a good job.

To MR JD and JTJ,

Many people have answered your questions and comments, there is one question and report which you are both doing your best to ignore. Please could you read the Thai PBS report above and give us your view on this.

Is this article a figment of our imagination?

Did the police chief claim they had identified the killers?

With seemingly comprehensive evidence?

What in your opinion changed the focus of the investigation?

Thanks in advance

So..

Not a figment. Announcement made. Exculpatory evidence ruled out initial suspects. DNA linked new suspects to the crime.

I only can assume that even wherever you come from that the initial investigation sometimes changes.

For instance,

http://metro.co.uk/2014/09/19/thai-police-release-all-suspects-in-beach-killing-of-british-backpackers-after-dna-tests-rule-them-out-4874886/

[AGareth2]

were the 2 cops under cover?

[MikePhuket1970]

were the 2 cops under cover?

when the 2 thai cops cover up the murderers ? i bet

and the other dozen too

Edited October 26, 2014 by MikePhuket1970

[AGareth2]

the press stated 3 cops from the UK came to Thailand

yet

there were five on kt

makes you wonder

[Johnsen]

Word on the island is the HUSH MONEY is 120 million baht.

[Johnsen]

For the millionth time JD, DNA evidence only links them to rape not murder. They have no evidence re the murder.

[harrry]

^^It's an English language only forum. Sadly, there was a good piece in The Manager we couldn't link because of this, the link on CSI LA.

I tried giving a speech in Thai once and the audience thought they'd attended a Star Trek convention.

The ability to speak Klingon is to be applauded. Kudos to you .

Maybe you could converse with Naam in Pattaya.

I understand the dificulty but it is a pity that Thai Press cannot be used to some extent as it does give a deeper understanding of the subject.

Edited October 26, 2014 by harrry

[jdinasia]

Word on the island is the HUSH MONEY is 120 million baht.

Source? Utter bs, but hey..

[ParadiseLost]

For the millionth time JD, DNA evidence only links them to rape not murder. They have no evidence re the murder.

They also haven't explained where DNA found in the third trace went...

[jdinasia]

For the millionth time JD, DNA evidence only links them to rape not murder. They have no evidence re the murder.

Repeating that claim does not make it true.

I will try one final time.

Discovery is a legal term. It means the requirement to disclose facts about a case. The court issued an order for remand based on the evidence in the case. The public doesn't have a right to discovery. You have no idea exactly what evidence has been presented to the court.

We know that there is the third man. A material witness to the crime, we know they can place the suspects at the crime scene. We know there is DNA evidence. We do not know exactly how much DNA evidence there is.

In short your claim that there's no evidence for a charge of murder is wrong. Are they guilty of murder? A trial will determine that.

[transam]

For the millionth time JD, DNA evidence only links them to rape not murder. They have no evidence re the murder.

Repeating that claim does not make it true.

I will try one final time.

Discovery is a legal term. It means the requirement to disclose facts about a case. The court issued an order for remand based on the evidence in the case. The public doesn't have a right to discovery. You have no idea exactly what evidence has been presented to the court.

We know that there is the third man. A material witness to the crime, we know they can place the suspects at the crime scene. We know there is DNA evidence. We do not know exactly how much DNA evidence there is.

In short your claim that there's no evidence for a charge of murder is wrong. Are they guilty of murder? A trial will determine that.

BUT YOU have already tried them.............. ......................... .........................

[Johnsen]

And you know what evidence has been reported to the court. No didn't think so. Being at a crime scene does not make them guilty. They freely admit they were on the beach. If I don't know then u certainly don't know either. I'll say it again there is no evidence the Burmese are guilty of murder.

[jdinasia]

For the millionth time JD, DNA evidence only links them to rape not murder. They have no evidence re the murder.

Repeating that claim does not make it true.

I will try one final time.

Discovery is a legal term. It means the requirement to disclose facts about a case. The court issued an order for remand based on the evidence in the case. The public doesn't have a right to discovery. You have no idea exactly what evidence has been presented to the court.

We know that there is the third man. A material witness to the crime, we know they can place the suspects at the crime scene. We know there is DNA evidence. We do not know exactly how much DNA evidence there is.

In short your claim that there's no evidence for a charge of murder is wrong. Are they guilty of murder? A trial will determine that.

BUT YOU have already tried them.............. ......................... .........................

Nope, I think they the killers in custody. The trial will determine guilt or innocence.

[Johnsen]

How do we know there is third man. What did they suddenly disclose that.