Dogmatix Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) What are the allegations of corruption in the KT murder investigation that the FCO has expressed concern about? Was it the allegation of the B700k allegedly offered to the taxi driver to implicate the footballers in the murders, after he was also allegedly beaten up, or is the allegation on Thai social media that B120m has been paid or offered to cover up the case? I would not believe the latter story. If there really was a cover up reaching to the top levels, how could they share out only US$4m between all of them? That wouldn't even buy one decent sized mansion. Edited October 26, 2014 by Dogmatix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacknDanny Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 A question that jdinasia will NOT answer.......................... Why do you think the UK has sent the cream of the UK police force to investigate the murder of Hannah and Dave ....? Politics What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsen Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 According to JD they don't have to disclose how they were cleared. They were cleared with 120 million baht. Of course phone records could have been a lot cheaper. Kinda makes you wonder huh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DennisF Posted October 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2014 I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with. He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view. It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel. So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs: Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence. OR Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty. No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure. Take your pick, up to you. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.There must be probable cause to do either.Do you think they have done it in this case? Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis Alibis? Who? Where? You talking about CCTV that can be proven to have been altered, or a cousin who said she was in Bangkok with suspect and was subsequently found to be in Pattaya with her BF? Ah... Back to the conspiracy theory regarding the CCTV. School records etc but feel free to keep citing unreliable sources and calling it fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsen Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Steady transam that's exactly what he wants you to say. Just tell him there is not enough disclosed evidence to charge the boys with murder. He hates that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bertty Posted October 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2014 I have joined the growing list of people who have now blocked the bores that are called John. Life seems so much better already. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 politics? you having a laugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarloKnight Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.There must be probable cause to do either.Do you think they have done it in this case?Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis But would it not strengthen the case against the accused if they had looked at theirs? I'm at such a loss with all this I really do not understand why obvious things to me are not looked at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsen Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Yes a Photo shopped photo of CCTV video. A still of video. Can't release any real video just a photo only a person with a child brain could believe. Strange how his girlfriend couldn't find him at his apartment. 120 million baht people, that's what it has cost to keep him out of jail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post binjalin Posted October 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2014 Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.There must be probable cause to do either. Source? Why was one of the 'big bosses' allowed onto the crime scene? You seem to be 'knowledgable. Explain please? I have no idea. now there's something we can ALL agree on 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JacknDanny Posted October 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2014 Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.There must be probable cause to do either.Do you think they have done it in this case? Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis Alibis? Who? Where? You talking about CCTV that can be proven to have been altered, or a cousin who said she was in Bangkok with suspect and was subsequently found to be in Pattaya with her BF? Ah... Back to the conspiracy theory regarding the CCTV. School records etc but feel free to keep citing unreliable sources and calling it fact. The unreliable sources? Your sources are what the RTP come out with!!!! Are they reliable???? Behave!! By the way, CSI LA whom you seem to think are attention seeking morons, have just found a missing girl, took them with the help of social media a total of 5 hours. RTP had the case for 1 month and could not find her!!! Call CSI LA, all you want but there is a lot of stuff they are saying which makes a lot more sense than your posts 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with. He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view. It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel. So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs: Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence. OR Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty. No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure. Take your pick, up to you. I was never a moderator. I have no idea why you keep saying that. You left out various other possibilities. Such as some mistakes were made and then corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted October 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2014 Steady transam that's exactly what he wants you to say. Just tell him there is not enough disclosed evidence to charge the boys with murder. He hates that one... Yeh I know, just pisses me off when we all want the truth and this guy wants to hang anyone so he and his KT chums are still cool with you know who........... Sure a warning for me soon but it would be worth it, just for the kids peace...... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacknDanny Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with. He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view. It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel. So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs: Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence. OR Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty. No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure. Take your pick, up to you. I was never a moderator. I have no idea why you keep saying that. You left out various other possibilities. Such as some mistakes were made and then corrected. What mistakes? Examples please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.There must be probable cause to do either.Do you think they have done it in this case?Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis But would it not strengthen the case against the accused if they had looked at theirs? I'm at such a loss with all this I really do not understand why obvious things to me are not looked at. No it would not strengthen the case. Plus lacking probable cause it is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsen Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) How can you say not checking phone records would not strengthen the case either way. Of course it would. You know what, they wouldn't even have to disclose it. Again non sensical. Edited October 26, 2014 by Johnsen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacknDanny Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.There must be probable cause to do either.Do you think they have done it in this case?Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis But would it not strengthen the case against the accused if they had looked at theirs? I'm at such a loss with all this I really do not understand why obvious things to me are not looked at. No it would not strengthen the case. Plus lacking probable cause it is illegal. Why is it illegal? Define probable cause as defined by Thai Law? Act and Section please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Gantry Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with. He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view. It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel. So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs: Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence. OR Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty. No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure. Take your pick, up to you. Totally agree with your post,the problem in kintergarten is that as soon as you mention the M word you are put in the naughty corner.It takes balls to be a man.something lacking here abouts!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with. He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view. It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel. So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs: Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence. OR Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty. No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure. Take your pick, up to you. I was never a moderator. I have no idea why you keep saying that. You left out various other possibilities. Such as some mistakes were made and then corrected. Such as some mistakes were made and then corrected heard that before that is the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsen Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 JDINASIA's sources are things that don't have to be disclosed to the public. That's all he has because he knows there is not enough evidence to send the boys to trial for murder on the disclosed evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.There must be probable cause to do either.Do you think they have done it in this case?Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis But would it not strengthen the case against the accused if they had looked at theirs? I'm at such a loss with all this I really do not understand why obvious things to me are not looked at. No it would not strengthen the case. Plus lacking probable cause it is illegal. Why is it illegal? Define probable cause as defined by Thai Law? Act and Section please You are welcome to query a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 JDINASIA's sources are things that don't have to be disclosed to the public. That's all he has because he knows there is not enough evidence to send the boys to trial for murder on the disclosed evidence. Straw man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketandsee Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with. He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view. It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel. So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs: Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence. OR Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty. No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure. Take your pick, up to you. Why do I have to choose? I go for both Edited October 26, 2014 by phuketandsee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsen Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Why are you resorting to name calling again JD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisF Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with. He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view. It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel. So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs: Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence. OR Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty. No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure. Take your pick, up to you. Why do I have to choose? I go for both Peg 3. Both of the above :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 New Scotland Yard loose face big time. Only allowed to observed, not allowed anything else. Just like any British tourist in Thailand. You may be surprised. Observing is what proper police do. They do it well too, they may observe someone drop a cigarette butt and being responsible people regarding the environment pick it up. Strange it then goes quietly with a proper custody chain to a proper lab. They may observe that people mysteriously do not want to talk and others want to talk too much. All grist for the mill. Then they will put it all together and I think the results will be quietly sent to the Thai government with a polite reminder that these facts could be bought out in an inquest in the UK and such adverse publicity may not occur if the correct thing is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddhistVirus Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 JDINASIA's sources are things that don't have to be disclosed to the public. That's all he has because he knows there is not enough evidence to send the boys to trial for murder on the disclosed evidence.Straw man I think you're tired or something...go take a nap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 JDINASIA's sources are things that don't have to be disclosed to the public. That's all he has because he knows there is not enough evidence to send the boys to trial for murder on the disclosed evidence.Straw manI think you're tired or something...go take a nap. not tired. Just finished with a guy that cannot comprehend discovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 JDINASIA's sources are things that don't have to be disclosed to the public. That's all he has because he knows there is not enough evidence to send the boys to trial for murder on the disclosed evidence.Straw manI think you're tired or something...go take a nap. not tired. Just finished with a guy that cannot comprehend discovery OH, you been for a massage................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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