DNA results from Ko Tao village head’s son don't match traces on slain British tourists

[Mackie]

I don't know if anyone mentioned this before. Apparently the two jailed Burmese contacted David and Hannah's parents begging to help them.

Men accused of murdering Hannah Witheridge and David Miller in Thailand ‘beg for help’ in letter

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/men_accused_of_murdering_hannah_witheridge_and_david_miller_in_thailand_beg_for_help_in_letter_1_3858668

The two Burmese men accused of murdering Hemsby student Hannah Witheridge and a fellow British backpacker in Thailand have reportedly written to the victims’ parents begging for help.

[Islandlife]

The boy has been cleared , even after a DNA test in Bangkok after a social media storm thanks to you guys, and with the Brits as observers. Please deal with it now and leave the kid alone.

Somewhat cleared, yes. But look who cleared him. The same folks who say the hoe was used on David, yet say there's none of David's blood on the hoe. The same folks who claim David's wounds were hoe-inflicted, though any lame-brain could see David's wounds are from a sharp shallow stabbing weapon. The boy has been cleared by the same folks who are bending over backwards to do all they can to shield the Headman's people. Connect the dots.

I think out with fairies would be my description of him (Sean).

Whether or not Sean is likeable or upstanding, is not the issue. The issue is whether Sean witnessed or knows things which may be pertinent to solving this case. He may also have been involved in the crime. Thai officials don't want us to know anything from Sean, because Sean could very possibly implicate the Headman's people. That's why Sean was quickly whisked out of Thailand by Thai officials. Hopefully (by Thai cops and Headman's people) never to be heard from again.

In Sean's last email to CSI LA that was published, he stated that he was afraid of Nomsod, and that Nomsod was not a nice person. If IslandLife is saying that Sean only arrived the day before then that just is another confirmation that Nomsod was on the Island!

Hows that confirmation when He actually wasnt in island and last time he was and Sean was he wasnt old enought to hang out in bars. Same like he said Mon is owner of ac bar wich just aint true. Just proves that he was of hes nuts speaking absolute rubbish.

Ive been told that these cuts with Sean he had night before murders on day of hes arrival and that it wasnt motorbike but somekind of fight.

He wasnt whisked away from Thailand just from Koh tao when he gave to false statements. These was even news hed have police Escort to safe house but as it happens someone i know was in same boat with him and there was no one waiting him at Koh Samui not a single person . Person same time in boat told also he was having major come down wich not a suprice after week of partying and just had made biggest fool of him self in front of national media..

[Islandlife]

He wasnt at island, i allready told you.

I know this how? I know him,i would of seen him,hes family would of seen him .

Ive talked him and he truly is <deleted> up and depressed becase of all this . It has ruined he's life for long time.

Hes uncle gave dna wich happened day after Sean bs. Got cleared ,that would of allready shud cleared him 2 as theiy same blood. Next test was just to silence the media. U guys really think that this goes all the way up and hole system would be jeopedisared bcase of koh tao? Ufos are real then 2.

Talk all you want he didnt do it. And neither had Mon enything to do it either.

[DennisF]

He wasnt at island, i allready told you.

I know this how? I know him,i would of seen him,hes family would of seen him .

Ive talked him and he truly is <deleted> up and depressed becase of all this . It has ruined he's life for long time.

Hes uncle gave dna wich happened day after Sean bs. Got cleared ,that would of allready shud cleared him 2 as theiy same blood. Next test was just to silence the media. U guys really think that this goes all the way up and hole system would be jeopedisared bcase of koh tao? Ufos are real then 2.

Talk all you want he didnt do it. And neither had Mon enything to do it either.

Oh well, if you say so then it must be true.

Before we all scurry off though perhaps you could answer:

Who were the three AC bar employees who did not turn up for work on the day of the murders?

Why did dear doting daddy say his son had left for Bangkok that morning to the national media then retract that later?

The DNA samples that were given.. how reliable are they since upstanding uncle and his police friends plus the local village quak with just 1 pair of rubber gloves

trampled all over the crime scene?

How can we disregard all the circumstantial evidence, and it is there in bundles?

Why hasnt dear doting daddy proved his McIdiot claims with cctv?

Where is the statement from the AC staff who 'cleaned McIdiot up?

Why was a senior RTP officer present at the DNA media circus as it was, you confirm, a private affair.

It has ruined his life forever, not just a long time.

As for going all the way up the patronage system, look at Chaing Mai anmd the hotel owner, that went far enough up to have a British TV camera crew and an investigator thrown out of the country.

So who is more important, a small hotel owner or a village headthug?

As for the lady with the iron will who is old school, as you report, she is not respected on the island, she is feared, allegedly.

Any problems she has had have been sorted by the headthugs employees, allegedly.

As usual, you are bleeting idiocy and still have no credibility.

[HeijoshinCool]

Cool, so Clouseau would leave the US and fly to Thailand to conduct an investigation, not knowing the language, the law etc

Yes you have posted very little and nothing noteworthy that I have seen. Other than support of the conspiracy theory website which has failed to have even one of their theories proven correct.

Still not a single explanation why there has been no press about the conspiracy claim regarding the furniture in BKK.

Still not one story in the press about a witness to place Nomsod on the island.

But obviously social media and the Internet Investigation Society has done so much!!

.

What? You've been making comments all along, based on what I said in post #1582, without even understanding it? You've made your snide remarks based on your misunderstanding my implied intentions?

You think where I said, "I'm not bothering the kid. But if I were Hannah's father, or brother, or uncle …." this meant I would go investigate? Uh, no. At least not in the sense you're thinking.

But I guess my comment was a bit more oblique than I intended, and therefore prone to be obscure to the obtuse.

There were, by the way, some very good points made on the website you are mocking. Once learning of its existence, any good detective would be reading through it. Good detectives, honest ones who want to get to the truth, need all the help they can get.

So you keep making derisive comments, and put downs, and snide remarks. It only makes written, public record of how little knowledge and understanding of criminalistics and the law you possess. You obviously think everyone here is just some broken down, sexually addicted expat, who has no expertise in anything beyond a bottle of Leo. You think no one who reads ThaiVisa is an expert? No one here is a lawyer, or cop, or criminalist, active or retired? That you can Google 'DNA,' or 'forensics,' or 'sub judice' for a few minutes, tap at your keyboard, and no one will be the wiser?

Nope.

Oh, and I am from the States, but lived seven years in Thailand, speak the language adequately, and spent a number of years associating with Thai cops. If you had done the legwork you claimed in your reply that you did, you would have gathered all that, and the fact that I was a homicide detective, from the 'nothing noteworthy' posts you claimed to have read.

[jdinasia]

Strangely I have yet to see any reason to think there were any good comments on the conspiracy theorist site, if there were certainly some would be proven by now.

As for claims of expertise? This is the internet. You can claim anything, but be sure to back it up.

I, BTW, have not characterized all foreigners in Thailand. You did that all on your own.

[Islandlife]

He wasnt at island, i allready told you.

I know this how? I know him,i would of seen him,hes family would of seen him .

Ive talked him and he truly is up and depressed becase of all this . It has ruined he's life for long time.

Hes uncle gave dna wich happened day after Sean bs. Got cleared ,that would of allready shud cleared him 2 as theiy same blood. Next test was just to silence the media. U guys really think that this goes all the way up and hole system would be jeopedisared bcase of koh tao? Ufos are real then 2.

Talk all you want he didnt do it. And neither had Mon enything to do it either.

Oh well, if you say so then it must be true.

Before we all scurry off though perhaps you could answer:

Who were the three AC bar employees who did not turn up for work on the day of the murders?

Why did dear doting daddy say his son had left for Bangkok that morning to the national media then retract that later?

The DNA samples that were given.. how reliable are they since upstanding uncle and his police friends plus the local village quak with just 1 pair of rubber gloves

trampled all over the crime scene?

How can we disregard all the circumstantial evidence, and it is there in bundles?

Why hasnt dear doting daddy proved his McIdiot claims with cctv?

Where is the statement from the AC staff who 'cleaned McIdiot up?

Why was a senior RTP officer present at the DNA media circus as it was, you confirm, a private affair.

It has ruined his life forever, not just a long time.

As for going all the way up the patronage system, look at Chaing Mai anmd the hotel owner, that went far enough up to have a British TV camera crew and an investigator thrown out of the country.

So who is more important, a small hotel owner or a village headthug?

As for the lady with the iron will who is old school, as you report, she is not respected on the island, she is feared, allegedly.

Any problems she has had have been sorted by the headthugs employees, allegedly.

As usual, you are bleeting idiocy and still have no credibility.

Dont seek your alledged credibility!

Just told you how it is.

Get a life.

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed.

Stay on topic and refrain from making comments about other posters.

[DennisF]

He wasnt at island, i allready told you.

I know this how? I know him,i would of seen him,hes family would of seen him .

Ive talked him and he truly is up and depressed becase of all this . It has ruined he's life for long time.

Hes uncle gave dna wich happened day after Sean bs. Got cleared ,that would of allready shud cleared him 2 as theiy same blood. Next test was just to silence the media. U guys really think that this goes all the way up and hole system would be jeopedisared bcase of koh tao? Ufos are real then 2.

Talk all you want he didnt do it. And neither had Mon enything to do it either.

Oh well, if you say so then it must be true.

Before we all scurry off though perhaps you could answer:

Who were the three AC bar employees who did not turn up for work on the day of the murders?

Why did dear doting daddy say his son had left for Bangkok that morning to the national media then retract that later?

The DNA samples that were given.. how reliable are they since upstanding uncle and his police friends plus the local village quak with just 1 pair of rubber gloves

trampled all over the crime scene?

How can we disregard all the circumstantial evidence, and it is there in bundles?

Why hasnt dear doting daddy proved his McIdiot claims with cctv?

Where is the statement from the AC staff who 'cleaned McIdiot up?

Why was a senior RTP officer present at the DNA media circus as it was, you confirm, a private affair.

It has ruined his life forever, not just a long time.

As for going all the way up the patronage system, look at Chaing Mai anmd the hotel owner, that went far enough up to have a British TV camera crew and an investigator thrown out of the country.

So who is more important, a small hotel owner or a village headthug?

As for the lady with the iron will who is old school, as you report, she is not respected on the island, she is feared, allegedly.

Any problems she has had have been sorted by the headthugs employees, allegedly.

As usual, you are bleeting idiocy and still have no credibility.

Dont seek your alledged credibility!

Just told you how it is.

Get a life.

You dont understand, credibility is needed to be believed. You havent got any was my point.

You never said how it is, you said how you want us to believe it is given your interest in murder island.

True to form when you start to lose a debate you resort to personal insults.

But you never explained how you know these people so well as you never frequent their bar because it is not your kind of place and you dont like

the people who frequent it.

You do get around.

[thailandchilli]

" It has been two months since the brutal murders of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller on the Thai island of Koh Tao. The Thai authorities’ handling of the case has caused additional heartbreak for the victims’ families and damaged Thailand’s reputation as a tourist destination. It has also exposed the brutality of the country’s flawed justice system."

New article by the Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/21/democracy-rule-law-thailand-murders-britons

Let the RTP Glee Club Rejoice in their association with this conspiracy!

[jdinasia]

" It has been two months since the brutal murders of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller on the Thai island of Koh Tao. The Thai authorities’ handling of the case has caused additional heartbreak for the victims’ families and damaged Thailand’s reputation as a tourist destination. It has also exposed the brutality of the country’s flawed justice system."

New article by the Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/21/democracy-rule-law-thailand-murders-britons

Let the RTP Glee Club Rejoice in their association with this conspiracy!

And yet the article doesn't call it a conspiracy.

[Islandlife]

He wasnt at island, i allready told you.

I know this how? I know him,i would of seen him,hes family would of seen him .

Ive talked him and he truly is up and depressed becase of all this . It has ruined he's life for long time.

Hes uncle gave dna wich happened day after Sean bs. Got cleared ,that would of allready shud cleared him 2 as theiy same blood. Next test was just to silence the media. U guys really think that this goes all the way up and hole system would be jeopedisared bcase of koh tao? Ufos are real then 2.

Talk all you want he didnt do it. And neither had Mon enything to do it either.

Oh well, if you say so then it must be true.

Before we all scurry off though perhaps you could answer:

Who were the three AC bar employees who did not turn up for work on the day of the murders?

Why did dear doting daddy say his son had left for Bangkok that morning to the national media then retract that later?

The DNA samples that were given.. how reliable are they since upstanding uncle and his police friends plus the local village quak with just 1 pair of rubber gloves

trampled all over the crime scene?

How can we disregard all the circumstantial evidence, and it is there in bundles?

Why hasnt dear doting daddy proved his McIdiot claims with cctv?

Where is the statement from the AC staff who 'cleaned McIdiot up?

Why was a senior RTP officer present at the DNA media circus as it was, you confirm, a private affair.

It has ruined his life forever, not just a long time.

As for going all the way up the patronage system, look at Chaing Mai anmd the hotel owner, that went far enough up to have a British TV camera crew and an investigator thrown out of the country.

So who is more important, a small hotel owner or a village headthug?

As for the lady with the iron will who is old school, as you report, she is not respected on the island, she is feared, allegedly.

Any problems she has had have been sorted by the headthugs employees, allegedly.

As usual, you are bleeting idiocy and still have no credibility.

Dont seek your alledged credibility!

Just told you how it is.

Get a life.

You dont understand, credibility is needed to be believed. You havent got any was my point.

You never said how it is, you said how you want us to believe it is given your interest in murder island.

True to form when you start to lose a debate you resort to personal insults.

But you never explained how you know these people so well as you never frequent their bar because it is not your kind of place and you dont like

the people who frequent it.

You do get around.

And you have? How meny years you lived in Thailand ? U live in Koh tao?

U a police officer in some other country? Private detective perhaps?

Im not deparing simply telling how it is.

Just not my type of place.

U do like twist things do you?

[DennisF]

So, the policeman who was on murder island and announced he had something to tell the press has turned up dead in starnge circumstances.

Full story:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/778618-former-csd-crime-buster-dies-in-unexplained-circumstances/?utm_source=newsletter-20141123-1335&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

[Bleacher Bum East]

" It has been two months since the brutal murders of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller on the Thai island of Koh Tao. The Thai authorities’ handling of the case has caused additional heartbreak for the victims’ families and damaged Thailand’s reputation as a tourist destination. It has also exposed the brutality of the country’s flawed justice system."

New article by the Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/21/democracy-rule-law-thailand-murders-britons

Let the RTP Glee Club Rejoice in their association with this conspiracy!

I'm happy to see Hannah and David's case getting the continued publicity it deserves, and articles constructively discussing the problems with Thailand's justice system are good for the country . . .

But the problems with Thailand's justice system are long-term and run across governments by all political parties and non-political party institutions (i.e. the military).

They did not begin with the coup and they won't end with an election.

So this guy's transition from discussing how Hannah and David's case illustrates some of the problems with the system to using the attention (and internet hits) the title and content of his article will clearly gain him, to promoting an obvious agenda at the end of the article . . .

I think this comes across as disingenuous and exploitative.

Just look at the title: "Democracy and the rule of law must be restored to Thailand"

This of course presumes that the rule of law previously existed.

Edited November 23, 2014 by Bleacher Bum East

[thailandchilli]

So, the policeman who was on murder island and announced he had something to tell the press has turned up dead in starnge circumstances.

Full story:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/778618-former-csd-crime-buster-dies-in-unexplained-circumstances/?utm_source=newsletter-20141123-1335&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

and cremated 12 hours later!! One of the good guys silenced and evidence destroyed

Edited November 23, 2014 by thailandchilli

[SteveFong]

I admire your thoughts re keeping the pressure on.

But the facts remain the real perpetrators WONT face justice. Thailand simply won't allow this to happen.

The best we can hope for is the scapegoats are released, and I am sure they will be. thanks to social media and the Brit' police.

The reason....The real culprits have links and associations with people at the very highest levels of Thai society.

Money, illegal activities all involved. Thailand would be destroyed from within if these links were brought into the open.

I have been thinking the same all along,

that, if the brits turned out irrefutable evidence that fingered the man-boy, that there would be a "so sorry" but now you must die for my son mentality

the longer we keep the pressure on,

the more likely, someone is going to break,

yesterday's article in the Guardian was at least as much about the current ruling people as it was the "murders on Ko Tao"

this looks like it can go all the way up the chain, and the new PM, may not be in there as long as he expected

makes one wonder if Thaskin isn't interested in this as a means of throwing the entire plan, in the waters off Kho Tao

Agreed but,

Thailand "is" being destroyed from within, not "would be"

Look around the press,

cops suddenly dying, one with a broken spine,

another with a strangling

a 28 year old drug dealer, with recordings of bribes,

when it rains,

it pours

this is a budding monsoon,

[DennisF]

I admire your thoughts re keeping the pressure on.

But the facts remain the real perpetrators WONT face justice. Thailand simply won't allow this to happen.

The best we can hope for is the scapegoats are released, and I am sure they will be. thanks to social media and the Brit' police.

The reason....The real culprits have links and associations with people at the very highest levels of Thai society.

Money, illegal activities all involved. Thailand would be destroyed from within if these links were brought into the open.

I have been thinking the same all along,

that, if the brits turned out irrefutable evidence that fingered the man-boy, that there would be a "so sorry" but now you must die for my son mentality

the longer we keep the pressure on,

the more likely, someone is going to break,

yesterday's article in the Guardian was at least as much about the current ruling people as it was the "murders on Ko Tao"

this looks like it can go all the way up the chain, and the new PM, may not be in there as long as he expected

makes one wonder if Thaskin isn't interested in this as a means of throwing the entire plan, in the waters off Kho Tao

Agreed but,

Thailand "is" being destroyed from within, not "would be"

Look around the press,

cops suddenly dying, one with a broken spine,

another with a strangling

a 28 year old drug dealer, with recordings of bribes,

when it rains,

it pours

this is a budding monsoon,

It seems you may be correct.

These brutal slayings and the public outcry, plus the ridiculous posturing of dear doting daddy and the powers that be

appear to have set off a chain of events that cannot be contained.

The leader proclaimed before office was taken that soldiers do not make good politicians. He was correct.

I would not be shocked if there was an uprising in Thailand.

[Heisenberg01]

So, the policeman who was on murder island and announced he had something to tell the press has turned up dead in starnge circumstances.

Full story:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/778618-former-csd-crime-buster-dies-in-unexplained-circumstances/?utm_source=newsletter-20141123-1335&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

Someone asked in the thread and it has allready been pointed out that there is zero link to this policeman and Koh Tao/The Koh Tao murders.

Nor has there been any link to him :having something to say to the press:

Or have i missed something, its getting hard to keep up with folk embellishing to make things dovetail.

[DennisF]

So, the policeman who was on murder island and announced he had something to tell the press has turned up dead in starnge circumstances.

Full story:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/778618-former-csd-crime-buster-dies-in-unexplained-circumstances/?utm_source=newsletter-20141123-1335&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

Someone asked in the thread and it has allready been pointed out that there is zero link to this policeman and Koh Tao/The Koh Tao murders.

Nor has there been any link to him :having something to say to the press:

Or have i missed something, its getting hard to keep up with folk embellishing to make things dovetail.

No embelishments from me!!

Read post 49 on the thread pertaining to the dead policeman.

[Heisenberg01]

So, the policeman who was on murder island and announced he had something to tell the press has turned up dead in starnge circumstances.

Full story:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/778618-former-csd-crime-buster-dies-in-unexplained-circumstances/?utm_source=newsletter-20141123-1335&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

Someone asked in the thread and it has allready been pointed out that there is zero link to this policeman and Koh Tao/The Koh Tao murders.

Nor has there been any link to him :having something to say to the press:

Or have i missed something, its getting hard to keep up with folk embellishing to make things dovetail.

No embelishments from me!!

Read post 49 on the thread pertaining to the dead policeman.

One guy claims he was on Koh Tao, that makes it gospel?

Not having a pop at you as such, its just easy to see how and why Jdinasia questions what he does.

A lot of info on here is taken as the absolute truth after somebody suggests something and several threads later its the gods own truth and being discussed as fact.

The simple truth is there is no link to this guy and the Koh Tao case, at least non that has been posted on here yet.

Edited November 23, 2014 by Heisenberg01

[DennisF]

So, the policeman who was on murder island and announced he had something to tell the press has turned up dead in starnge circumstances.

Full story:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/778618-former-csd-crime-buster-dies-in-unexplained-circumstances/?utm_source=newsletter-20141123-1335&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

Someone asked in the thread and it has allready been pointed out that there is zero link to this policeman and Koh Tao/The Koh Tao murders.

Nor has there been any link to him :having something to say to the press:

Or have i missed something, its getting hard to keep up with folk embellishing to make things dovetail.

No embelishments from me!!

Read post 49 on the thread pertaining to the dead policeman.

One guy claims he was on Koh Tao, that makes it gospel?

Not having a pop at you as such, its just easy to see how and why Jdinasia questions what he does.

A lot of info on here is taken as the absolute truth after somebody suggests something and several threads later its the gods own truth and being discussed as fact.

The simple truth is there is no link to this guy and the Koh Tao case, at least non that has been posted on here yet.

No it does not make it gospel, I do remember it and will try to find the link for you but it was some time ago.

It was in the national media as I recollect. Will do my best to find it.

[DennisF]

It seems I was mistaken and I apologetically withdraw my comment that the policeman who died in suspicious circumstances was connected to murder island.

The news link states that he was removed from his post along with his commanding officer shortly after the murders and stated he had

something important to tell the media.

It was assumed and posted on a thread that it was murder island related but, in retrospect this man seems to have been involved in other

illegal activities.

I can find n o direct link to him and the island.

Again I apologise, it was totally unintentional and I hope did not inconvenience or confuse anyone.

[Heisenberg01]

It seems I was mistaken and I apologetically withdraw my comment that the policeman who died in suspicious circumstances was connected to murder island.

The news link states that he was removed from his post along with his commanding officer shortly after the murders and stated he had

something important to tell the media.

It was assumed and posted on a thread that it was murder island related but, in retrospect this man seems to have been involved in other

illegal activities.

I can find n o direct link to him and the island.

Again I apologise, it was totally unintentional and I hope did not inconvenience or confuse anyone.

Ha ha ha.

No worries, i wasnt having a pop mate, its just every day something gets picked up and then someone ends up argueing with Jdinasia and quoting all these bullet pointed "facts" which under scrutiny most are not facts at all.

Every copper and his dog above seargant was on Tao at some point during the investigation so it wouldnt surprise me if he had at some point set foot on the islands.

[catsanddogs]

Bereaved families let down by UK consular service, MPs say

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30163093

[catsanddogs]

Families Lash Out At 'Rude' Consular Staff

http://news.sky.com/story/1378548/families-lash-out-at-rude-consular-staff

[simonuk]

He wasnt at island, i allready told you.

I know this how? I know him,i would of seen him,hes family would of seen him .

Ive talked him and he truly is up and depressed becase of all this . It has ruined he's life for long time.

Hes uncle gave dna wich happened day after Sean bs. Got cleared ,that would of allready shud cleared him 2 as theiy same blood. Next test was just to silence the media. U guys really think that this goes all the way up and hole system would be jeopedisared bcase of koh tao? Ufos are real then 2.

Talk all you want he didnt do it. And neither had Mon enything to do it either.

His conduct during this time has been scetchy at best.

If it were me I would have held a press conference , sent a message to hanna and David's parents expressing my sadness , released all cctv footage. I would have welcomed the British police and offered myself independant blood testing.

He's done nothing except the bare minimum and even that has been done in a shady way.

[Heisenberg01]

He wasnt at island, i allready told you.

I know this how? I know him,i would of seen him,hes family would of seen him .

Ive talked him and he truly is up and depressed becase of all this . It has ruined he's life for long time.

Hes uncle gave dna wich happened day after Sean bs. Got cleared ,that would of allready shud cleared him 2 as theiy same blood. Next test was just to silence the media. U guys really think that this goes all the way up and hole system would be jeopedisared bcase of koh tao? Ufos are real then 2.

Talk all you want he didnt do it. And neither had Mon enything to do it either.

His conduct during this time has been scetchy at best.

If it were me I would have held a press conference , sent a message to hanna and David's parents expressing my sadness , released all cctv footage. I would have welcomed the British police and offered myself independant blood testing.

He's done nothing except the bare minimum and even that has been done in a shady way.

At the start i would have put money on him being the guilty party, simply put the way it was reported he stood out like a sore thumb.

However as time has gone by ive gone off the idea, something would have surfaced by now, some actual proof of him being on the island, airline records, uni freinds blabbing, statements from some of the freinds of the deceased.

Backpacker are gregarious, in the photos doing the round it shows the deceased in many group photos, not one of the freinds they were travelling with or fellow backpackers have come forward, especially with the DNA tets and the insistance that he wasnt on the island, not one has seen that and thought hang on the lying bastards wheres sky news phone number?

Im sorry, but its a no from me regarding the son.

Thats not to say hes not a shady bastard, and im sure involved in god knows what else on the island in days gone by.

The Burmese, never.

Im starting to think they just genuinely dont know who did it, the B2 as scapegoats look like its falling to bits. they needed a neat result and 10 years ago would have got it but for social media this isnt going to happen today.

I think its just a case of hoping it will all go away and be forgotten as time moves on, again unfortunately social media is getting in the way.

Just useless police and useless investigation got nowhere, they fell back on the age old tried and tested blame it on the Burmese and unfortunately this time it looks like failling.

[jdinasia]

It seems I was mistaken and I apologetically withdraw my comment that the policeman who died in suspicious circumstances was connected to murder island.

The news link states that he was removed from his post along with his commanding officer shortly after the murders and stated he had

something important to tell the media.

It was assumed and posted on a thread that it was murder island related but, in retrospect this man seems to have been involved in other

illegal activities.

I can find n o direct link to him and the island.

Again I apologise, it was totally unintentional and I hope did not inconvenience or confuse anyone.

It was just a typical conspiracy theory, but you actually admitting the mistake is unusual.

[boomerangutang]

Quick question for the few posters that have swallowed the official line. Why do you think that initially all 3 Burmese confessed to the murder, but since then one of them has been released? Did the 3rd one confess for fun? Think lads, think. It's obvious isn't it.

The boy has been cleared , even after a DNA test in Bangkok after a social media storm thanks to you guys, and with the Brits as observers. Please deal with it now and leave the kid alone.

Somewhat cleared, yes. But look who cleared him. The same folks who say the hoe was used on David, yet say there's none of David's blood on the hoe. The same folks who claim David's wounds were hoe-inflicted, though any lame-brain could see David's wounds are from a sharp shallow stabbing weapon. The boy has been cleared by the same folks who are bending over backwards to do all they can to shield the Headman's people. Connect the

Who are the same folks ? You keep refering to them as a group of people without names. Do you know how many Thais that has been involved in this investigation, both at the island and in Bangkok ? And the people from the DNA labs, so many people have looked at this and still you think that they all work together to coverup for the headmans family ?? Wow all you guys are unbelievable.

To answer your Q: 'Do I think there's a cover-up?' Yes.

Re; the DNA. How many people have physical access to the DNA type-cards taken from Hannah's body? 1, maybe 2, at most 3 people. How hard would it be to take a photocopy of the Burmeses' DNA cards, and re-label them "DNA taken from Hannah"? Call it a conspiracy theory if you want, but doing that one simple clandestine act would wrap up the conviction against the B2 while simultaneously excluding the Headman's people. It wouldn't exclude them as far as farang-style crime investigation, but it would work well enough for Thai standards - the PM said so.

[boomerangutang]

Strangely I have yet to see any reason to think there were any good comments on the conspiracy theorist site, if there were certainly some would be proven by now.

As for claims of expertise? This is the internet. You can claim anything, but be sure to back it up.

Of course you wouldn't gauge any of the comments on social media site had validity. We wouldn't expect you to. All your posts indicate you're determined to shield the headman's people, right in step with Thai officialdom.

You want 'good comments' ....here are few from your can-do-no-wrong RTP:

>>> none of David's blood on the hoe, yet the hoe was used to kill David.

>>> It was a jealous male lover of Davids, ....uhhh, no it wasn't.

>>> It couldn't have been a Thai. Thais could never do something so dastardly

>>> Farang women should not wear bikinis, it makes them appear like floozies.

>>> Hannah's phone was found behind the Burmeses' shack. Uh, what are those stupid photos on social media showing? Um, Hanna's phone was given to police the morning after the crime. Ok, maybe it wasn't found weeks later behind the shack.

>>> It must have been David's phone found behind the shack. What's that you say? David's phone was found the morning after the crime at the crime scene? Ok, then I guess it wasn't David's phone found behind the shack.

The badly scripted farce continues by RTP officials. What will their next announcement be? I cringe in anticipation.