Andrew65 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Oooo . . . that photo makes my skin crawl and I ain't referring to the Thai guy on the right. The shark is back in town, sniffing around for another pay day. No doubt offering his services as a speaker, adviser or some such. Any chance of a pay day and good old Tone will be there. There is no evidence at all that Tony Blair was paid for his services in Thailand either on his current visit or previous one.I know it's part of the mantra among the Blair haters but it doesn't seem to be true.There is enough Iraq related dirt to heap on him so inventing stuff not real sensible. Whether he has a superficial understanding of the Thai political crisis is another issue.His negotiating skills are beyond question as was seen in Northern Ireland.Sometimes it takes an outsider to help the process move forward.However in Thailand there does not seem to be a wish to negotiate so the services of Blair or A.N Other seems unnecessary There is plenty of evidence to suggest: 1) That Tony Blair (QC) is a compulsive liar. 2) That he shredded documents relating to (probably fraudulent) expense claims. 3) That he should have a fair trial in relation to war crimes (after which he should be shot)! 4) A middle-eastern politician, when asked to describe Tony's ability as a negotiator replied: "useless, useless, useless". 5) Much of the Northern Ireland peace deal was brokered by John Major. 6) With reference to point 4), Phoney Tony is or was a member of an organisation called "Labour - Friends of Israel", which ever slightly undermines his position as a "neutral" interlocutor in the search for peace in the Middle East. I could go on, but you get the gist..... !? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Oooo . . . that photo makes my skin crawl and I ain't referring to the Thai guy on the right. The shark is back in town, sniffing around for another pay day. No doubt offering his services as a speaker, adviser or some such. Any chance of a pay day and good old Tone will be there. There is no evidence at all that Tony Blair was paid for his services in Thailand either on his current visit or previous one.I know it's part of the mantra among the Blair haters but it doesn't seem to be true.There is enough Iraq related dirt to heap on him so inventing stuff not real sensible. Whether he has a superficial understanding of the Thai political crisis is another issue.His negotiating skills are beyond question as was seen in Northern Ireland.Sometimes it takes an outsider to help the process move forward.However in Thailand there does not seem to be a wish to negotiate so the services of Blair or A.N Other seems unnecessary There is plenty of evidence to suggest: 1) That Tony Blair (QC) is a compulsive liar. 2) That he shredded documents relating to (probably fraudulent) expense claims. 3) That he should have a fair trial in relation to war crimes (after which he should be shot)! 4) A middle-eastern politician, when asked to describe Tony's ability as a negotiator replied: "useless, useless, useless". 5) Much of the Northern Ireland peace deal was brokered by John Major. 6) With reference to point 4), Phoney Tony is or was a member of an organisation called "Labour - Friends of Israel", which ever slightly undermines his position as a "neutral" interlocutor in the search for peace in the Middle East. I could go on, but you get the gist..... !? My point was that there is no evidence at all that Tony Blair has been paid or is seeking to be paid for Thailand related work. As to your comments I respond because they typify the inanity and ignorance of the Tony Blair haters. 1.He is not and never has been a QC.His wife is and his brother was (now a judge). 2.No evidence he covered up fraudulent expense claims 3.His legacy is certainly tarnished by the Iraq war.Your bar talk comments "he should be shot" are typical of the Tony Blair haters, but I think irrelevant 4.His outstanding negotiating record in Northern Ireland is a matter of record.Certainly John Major should also get credit. 5.Your unnamed Middle Eastern source simply demonstrates that region is intractable. 6.I have no idea whether Blair is a member of that organisation.Traditionally Israel has had many friends in the UK Labour Party. I agree Blair now seems like damaged goods and he is very unpopular at home.Still this was the man who almost singlehandedly rescued the Labour Party and lead it to successive election victories.In twenty years time he may be seen by convention as a political genius.That's the way I see him now - though deeply flawed. A Shakespearian tragedy in the sense of a remarkable man wrecked by hubris. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdome Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Go you Thais....let Tony have a go ...look how he F.......d up in the UK...he will lead you into debt for sure...5555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japsportscarmad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 No he didn't F@@ed the UK up he really really F@@ed the UK up. Before he got the job of Peace envoy sorry did I actually say peace envoy no that can't be right can it he started an illegal war peace envoy God no it can't be true I must have made a mistake, peace envoy sorry I can't get it out of my head who in their right mind would make him a peace envoy? O that would be America the world Police, got it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Oooo . . . that photo makes my skin crawl and I ain't referring to the Thai guy on the right. The shark is back in town, sniffing around for another pay day. No doubt offering his services as a speaker, adviser or some such. Any chance of a pay day and good old Tone will be there. There is no evidence at all that Tony Blair was paid for his services in Thailand either on his current visit or previous one.I know it's part of the mantra among the Blair haters but it doesn't seem to be true.There is enough Iraq related dirt to heap on him so inventing stuff not real sensible. Whether he has a superficial understanding of the Thai political crisis is another issue.His negotiating skills are beyond question as was seen in Northern Ireland.Sometimes it takes an outsider to help the process move forward.However in Thailand there does not seem to be a wish to negotiate so the services of Blair or A.N Other seems unnecessary There is plenty of evidence to suggest: 1) That Tony Blair (QC) is a compulsive liar. 2) That he shredded documents relating to (probably fraudulent) expense claims. 3) That he should have a fair trial in relation to war crimes (after which he should be shot)! 4) A middle-eastern politician, when asked to describe Tony's ability as a negotiator replied: "useless, useless, useless". 5) Much of the Northern Ireland peace deal was brokered by John Major. 6) With reference to point 4), Phoney Tony is or was a member of an organisation called "Labour - Friends of Israel", which ever slightly undermines his position as a "neutral" interlocutor in the search for peace in the Middle East. I could go on, but you get the gist..... !? My point was that there is no evidence at all that Tony Blair has been paid or is seeking to be paid for Thailand related work. As to your comments I respond because they typify the inanity and ignorance of the Tony Blair haters. 1.He is not and never has been a QC.His wife is and his brother was (now a judge). 2.No evidence he covered up fraudulent expense claims 3.His legacy is certainly tarnished by the Iraq war.Your bar talk comments "he should be shot" are typical of the Tony Blair haters, but I think irrelevant 4.His outstanding negotiating record in Northern Ireland is a matter of record.Certainly John Major should also get credit. 5.Your unnamed Middle Eastern source simply demonstrates that region is intractable. 6.I have no idea whether Blair is a member of that organisation.Traditionally Israel has had many friends in the UK Labour Party. I agree Blair now seems like damaged goods and he is very unpopular at home.Still this was the man who almost singlehandedly rescued the Labour Party and lead it to successive election victories.In twenty years time he may be seen by convention as a political genius.That's the way I see him now - though deeply flawed. A Shakespearian tragedy in the sense of a remarkable man wrecked by hubris. On his website he appears to class this sort of thing as a commercial operation so i would be surprised if he is not getting something for making such an overt appearance. "Tony Blair Associates is the umbrella organisation for our commercial operations. We work with governments on the path of reform providing advice and support on key areas of governance, modernisation and implementation. We provide geopolitical and strategic advice to multinational corporations. We bring together institutional investors with potential investment opportunities. Tony Blair's commercial activities provide important funding for his philanthropic work. Tony Blair Associates is entirely separate from the Foundations which are independent charitable entities accountable to their own boards and trustees and subject to applicable charity regulations." http://www.tonyblairoffice.org/pages/tony-blair-associates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Duplicate post Edited November 4, 2014 by Orac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathias24 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Busy body tony. Thai have democracy the thai way. Nothing to do with farang; especially British. Tell Blair to piss off back to the UK. He was not a lot of use their but to tell the Thai's how to run their own country to me is an insult. Yes their are problems here but slowly, slowly things appear to be getting a little better especially in terms of corruption. Still a very long way to go though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humberstone Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Much as I dislike the guy, I cannot agree that he's guilty of war crimes. For sure, he mislead Parliament with a shabby justification for declaring war on Iraq and also waged it in violation of the vote in the United Nations. Does this make him a criminal? The answer, for me is a qualified 'yes' as he does have a case to answer. Does this make him a war criminal?, I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Seriously though; In what official capacity is he here? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 He's right but coming from the UK's most despised PM it kind of lacks credibility 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Jayboy, You're right about him not being a QC. The remarks re: Palestine negotiations, were made with reference to the body that he represented, rather than him personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Seriously though; In what official capacity is he here? I think he could be paying PM Prayuth what's known diplomatically as a "courtesy" visit, with him being a former-PM. He could be here on totally separate business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Tony liar I wouldn't even urinate on that man if he was on fire, he destroyed Britain keep him away from Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPG Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Busy body tony. Thai have democracy the thai way. Nothing to do with farang; especially British. Thailand's entire Democratic system with the King as head of state, is copied from the British. The British set up Thailand's communication systems, railways, Post Office, the entire legal system etc etc. Thailand today has a LOT to do with the British and other farang. Would you rather Thailand was eating sushi and watching Sumo wrestlers? My line drops all the time My internet sucks The train systems stinks Post always arrives late or I get rocks instead of iphones in my package Corruption is #1 in Thailand To Neeranam, I'm messing with you. Thailand's infrastructure sucks and requires immediate attention and their legal system...well, everyone knows is corrupt. The more you pay, the less to no time spent in prison for any illegal action. You opened yourself up so I took a "joking" whack at you. Please don't take it the wrong way...just playing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespiere Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Tony Blair sniffs a few $$$ selling arms to the Junta. Pi$$ off Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japsportscarmad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 He is a bit of a decisive chap Mr Blair isn't he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoristheBlade Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Once a <deleted> always a <deleted> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japsportscarmad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Seriously though; In what official capacity is he here?I think he could be paying PM Prayuth what's known diplomatically as a "courtesy" visit, with him being a former-PM.He could be here on totally separate business. I've no idea what he's up to at all or what capacity he's in or about, its all a bit odd him been the Middle East peace envoy and all that and not sure how he came to be "envoying" in Thailand? He's a champagne socialist who happens to be a multi millionaire go figure how that works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) It is right Tony was not a QC his wife was and he brought in the human rights act and his wife made a fortune for her him and her chambers ,using the same laws to keep criminals in the UK because of their "human rights," Also I remember them buying those two flats with a fraudster,I could go on ,but as was said before "you get the jist," Edited November 4, 2014 by i claudius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japsportscarmad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Tony liar I wouldn't even urinate on that man if he was on fire, he destroyed Britain keep him away from Thailand.Firstly we can't call him a liar as he actually believes in what he says even though it appears in a different dimension to what everyone saw, read and digested totally different the little liar :-)He's unlikely to burn in one of those expensive suits he wears as they are usually made of wool and its quiet fire retardant, but I would piss on him if I got the chance and it wasn't illegal (inserted for the nice moderator). However if he was on fire I can't think of many people who would put him out certainally not on here in any case :-) Edited November 4, 2014 by japsportscarmad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japsportscarmad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 It is right Tony was not a QC his wife was and he brought in the human rights act and his wife made a fortune for her him and her chambers ,using the same laws to keep criminals in the UK because of their "human rights," When I first saw his wife I thought zippy from Rainbow had escaped! Yes very strange a politician supports a law then his wife makes a fortune from it? I've heard of stories like that somewhere else errrrrrm let me think where it could be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Thought when I saw that headline that there may have been a typo. After all Asians are not very good at pronouncing their R's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japsportscarmad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Thought when I saw that headline that there may have been a typo. After all Asians are not very good at pronouncing their R's. That's hilarious I thought the same thing !! :-)) he allegedly managed one with his friends wife according to the press. I wonder who got in :-)))))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinkb Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 i sense a little resentment to Mr Tony Blair in this thread, could jealousy be anything to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob6130 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 How can a war criminal have anything to say about Thai politics. He has never got off his arse to study anything about the world except to further himself. He is a smarmy lying toad that should be put in prison for a lot of years with his bum pal Bush, the other war criminal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Bush's lap dog Blair telling Thailand what to do in regards to politics is far beyond hilarious. I think there are not many few British citizens who wouldn't bludgeon that lying faggot to a pulp with a baseball bat if they were given the opportunity via "get out of jail card"... Feels like Ted Bundy telling a traffic violator to behave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Feel the love on this thread. Blair has united a nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Oooo . . . that photo makes my skin crawl and I ain't referring to the Thai guy on the right. The shark is back in town, sniffing around for another pay day. No doubt offering his services as a speaker, adviser or some such. Any chance of a pay day and good old Tone will be there. There is no evidence at all that Tony Blair was paid for his services in Thailand either on his current visit or previous one.I know it's part of the mantra among the Blair haters but it doesn't seem to be true.There is enough Iraq related dirt to heap on him so inventing stuff not real sensible. Whether he has a superficial understanding of the Thai political crisis is another issue.His negotiating skills are beyond question as was seen in Northern Ireland.Sometimes it takes an outsider to help the process move forward.However in Thailand there does not seem to be a wish to negotiate so the services of Blair or A.N Other seems unnecessary There is no evidence he wasn't paid either. Did he pay all expenses and do this for no fee before? Maybe yes, maybe no. However, read my post properly. You read "another pay day" how you wanted to. Another one of your inventions. He has made rather a lot of money since leaving office doing this sort of thing. So I doubt he does many freebies, but no doubt he has to do some prospecting for clients. Presumably you regard his negotiating and selling skills highly - like how he sold the Iraq war to the British public? He does a wonderful job in the Middle East so far too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Blair does nothing for free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japsportscarmad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 No he didn't sell,the war he lied. Sorry mr moderator he bent the truth (a lot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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