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Are there any open-air markets selling organic vegetables here in CM? If so, where (and when if only open occasionally).

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In the talad at Meechok, there is a lady with a small table set up selling what she alleges are organic vegetables. I've noticed she is not there all the time. Her prices are about half what the organic produce at Rimping is (selection is not wide), but I always question the claim of "organic" no matter who is doing the selling.

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Growing 'organic' is tough in Thailand. I spent frustrating years working with inlaws (ex) encouraging them in ' value added' organic products sold direct to hotels etc.. I am sure there are more than a few of us in the same former position. Damned tough in Thailand. There are a lot of bugs. The farmers have learned what is viable and how to do it,,,,yes, they now have to push the limit on pesticides.

The only way to buy 'non pesticide' food in Thailand is to know a farmer, his daughter or his son in law.. Most villagers grow two crops...one they eat and one they sell.

...Ken

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Would not trust it anyway if they say this is organic, there is no control system in Thailand, and if there was I would not trust it.

I think it's not possible to buy vegetables in Thailand where you can be sure of that no pesticides are used during the growing process,

wash you veggies well and it's all good..

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Would not trust it anyway if they say this is organic, there is no control system in Thailand, and if there was I would not trust it.

I think it's not possible to buy vegetables in Thailand where you can be sure of that no pesticides are used during the growing process,

wash you veggies well and it's all good..

You can wash your veggies on the outside, but not on the inside. So if during the growing the pesticides entered the cellular structure of the food then your washing will only make a minor difference. That's the big problem with produce grown with pesticides, if the chemical poison enters the food itself. And why would it not do that?

I don't know what country you come from, but in england for example a food considered 'organic' needs only 90% to be pesticide-free. Not sure if i've recalled the exact percentage, but being informed is just as important as giving out or withholding one's trust. As for the control systems you seem to want, then why not check out the main control system of food in western nations? You need only consult codex alimentarius to learn the full horrors.

You might also check out the taste level of fruits and veggies grown in western nations; often non-existant, and in fact you only know what you're eating because it still manages to look like it's supposed to.

The western nations produce all the toxic chemicals to spray on nutritious foods, and they are the pioneers of poisoning all other foods with preservatives and colourings and other toxic chemicals.

Thailand is a much better place to be eating cleaner foods than many 'developed' nations. It's still dodgy due to all the chemicals and toxic shit that the western companies export over here.

It's very possible to buy produce you know has not been sprayed. You just have to inform yourself.

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There is the organic market on the canal road. Head south from the suthep road intersection about one or two kms, never quite sure how far it is. I think you go through one or two sets of lights. Anyway, it's on the left hand side, slightly down from the road height. There is a sign i think before you get there, maybe 500m out.

It's open on tuesdays and thursdays from about half 1 or 2 i think. Lots of local farmers who sell their stuff there, including chickens and eggs as well as fruits and vegs. A great place to get good value clean and organic food.

Assuming you trust them!!! I do.

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In the talad at Meechok, there is a lady with a small table set up selling what she alleges are organic vegetables. I've noticed she is not there all the time. Her prices are about half what the organic produce at Rimping is (selection is not wide), but I always question the claim of "organic" no matter who is doing the selling.

Very wise strategy.

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"Organic" food in Thailand is similar to Thai-"silk"........ the right form but questionable content.

The market on Canal rd (121) opposite the B2 Hotel (there about) is the closest thing to 'local' grown that I have seen and thus proxy to 'organic' & reasonable prices - Tues -Thurs.

I shop a fair bit from the Royal Project outlet near Doi Kham and now there is a new & improved Saturday market from 6am-2pm at the university Agri-oval,again near Doi Kham.

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I found the organic food market on Sunday morning at JJ Market. The place is near the back gate of Kamthiang Market behind Lotus Kamthiang. There are many fresh vegetable from the local gardener, managed by Chiangmai Municipal. It's open from 7:00 - 12:30 pm. also the Royal Project vegetable is available here.

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Growing 'organic' is tough in Thailand. I spent frustrating years working with inlaws (ex) encouraging them in ' value added' organic products sold direct to hotels etc.. I am sure there are more than a few of us in the same former position. Damned tough in Thailand. There are a lot of bugs. The farmers have learned what is viable and how to do it,,,,yes, they now have to push the limit on pesticides.

The only way to buy 'non pesticide' food in Thailand is to know a farmer, his daughter or his son in law.. Most villagers grow two crops...one they eat and one they sell.

...Ken

A little bit more on that line is a conversation I had the other day with a friend who is far more up on food production than I am. He said yes organic foods were OK and if the farmers the world over would start producing them people would die of starvation as the population has grown to big to survive on food with out some sort of help in increasing it's production.

Here is a part of an article he had referred to.

It is nearly 25 years since the famous Feed The World campaign began in Ethiopia,

and in that time

Ethiopia's population has grown from 33.5 million to 78+ million today

.

Almost every country in the world has an increasing population. Now how good is organic for you I do not know. I know in Canada they grow it and are allowed to call it organic if it has only used a certain amount of various fertilizers. I have often wondered is Chicken and pig excrement an acceptable fertilizer for organic. They are naturally occurring?

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Growing 'organic' is tough in Thailand. I spent frustrating years working with inlaws (ex) encouraging them in ' value added' organic products sold direct to hotels etc.. I am sure there are more than a few of us in the same former position. Damned tough in Thailand. There are a lot of bugs. The farmers have learned what is viable and how to do it,,,,yes, they now have to push the limit on pesticides.

The only way to buy 'non pesticide' food in Thailand is to know a farmer, his daughter or his son in law.. Most villagers grow two crops...one they eat and one they sell.

...Ken

A little bit more on that line is a conversation I had the other day with a friend who is far more up on food production than I am. He said yes organic foods were OK and if the farmers the world over would start producing them people would die of starvation as the population has grown to big to survive on food with out some sort of help in increasing it's production.

Here is a part of an article he had referred to.

It is nearly 25 years since the famous Feed The World campaign began in Ethiopia,

and in that time

Ethiopia's population has grown from 33.5 million to 78+ million today

.

Almost every country in the world has an increasing population. Now how good is organic for you I do not know. I know in Canada they grow it and are allowed to call it organic if it has only used a certain amount of various fertilizers. I have often wondered is Chicken and pig excrement an acceptable fertilizer for organic. They are naturally occurring?

Chicken ,pig and cattle food is loaded with antibiotics ,growth hormones and heaven knows what else. Does it go through the food chain who knows ?

What I do know from having a farm for a chicken to reach full size, free range,corn or wheat fed, takes 20 weeks for a frozen chicken to be full size in a supermarket takes 6 weeks

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I think I pulled this info off of this board somewhere a while ago:

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General agriculture, non-toxic food safety. Agricultural Research Station. University. Agricultural Research Center @ ChiangMai University.

Time of service, 7:00 to 18:00 pm every Wednesday and every Saturday 7:00 to 13:00 pm every Wed 7.00-18.00, every Sat 7.00-13.00.

: JJ Market (behind Tesco Lotus for lunch) Assadathorn Road Asada, T. Patan district in Andhra Pradesh. JJ Market (behind Lotus).

Wednesday, Saturday 5:00 to 10:00 pm Wed, Sat 5.00-10.00.


YMCA monolithic organic market. YMCA Saohin.
: Road island oyster, Nong Muang Saturday 6:00 to 13:00 pm NongHoi, Sat 6.00-13.00.


Organic market. School. College. Dara Wittayalai School.
: Road Kaewnawarat Watkate Tue 6:00 to 13:00 am Wednesday wat ket area, Wed 6.00-13.00.


Organic market. School. Prince Royal's College. Wittayalai Royal Prince.
: Road Kaewnawarat Watkate Tue 15:00 to 17:00 am Friday wat ket area, Fri 6.00-13.00.


General Organic Wild Lawan. BaanPalawan (behind University).
: Road Planning thousand machetes Khot (behind Chiang Mai Rajabhat University), T. Patan district Monday 6:00 to 10:00 am Paatan, Mon 6.00-10.00.


The organic food market in Nong Hoi. NongHoi Market.
: Road Chiang Mai - Lamphun Rd every day (throughout the day). everyday all Day.


Organic Market in school. Grande Fort (secondary). Mongford highschool.
: oyster, Nong Muang Friday 14:00 to 17:00 am NongHoi area, Fri 14.00-17.00.


Kuang organic.
: Irrigation Canal Road. 2 km away from the Sal trees to plant in the garden. Monday - Saturday 12:00 to 17:00 am

on the way to the RoyalFlora, along the canal road, 2 km from TonPayom market ... Mon-Sat 12.00-17.00.


Organic Market in London. Nakorn Ping Hospital. Nakornping Hospital Mae Rim.
: Road Chiang Mai - Mae Rim district, Monday, Wednesday, Friday 10:00 to 15:00 am Mon, Wed, Fri 10.00-15.00.


Organic Market in Chiang Mai University. maejo University (same side of Goddess Statue).
: M. Chiang Mai (the goddess of the court) Road, Chiang Mai - Phrao, Sansai Monday, Wednesday, Friday 10:00 to 15:00 am Mon, Wed. , Fri 10.00-15.00.


Organic Market Houses in the village. (Chiang Mai). Moobaan maejo Land and House (in Front?), Sansai.
: Road Chiang Mai - Phrao Nong Chom, Sansai Saturday 14:00 to 17:00 pm Sat 14.00-17.00.


Organic market. Hospital dunes. SanSai Hospital (in Front).
: Sai Hospital (Hospital garden) Nong Han, Sansai Wednesday, Friday 6:00 to 10:00 pm Wed, Fri 6.00-10.00.


Organic Market Fang Fang Kuang health. (Do not know how to Translate this, but it's in. Fang. ).
: Princess Road, the community is obvious pitch prior non-Fang Chiang Friday 6:00 to 10:00 pm Fri 6.00-10.00.


Organic Market Phrao the final knot. (Do not know how to Translate this, but it's in. Prao. ).
: the post office Monday 6:00 to 12:00 pm Tue Prao Mon 6.00-12.00.


Organic Market in Chiang Mai. Chiang Mai Hospital. SanKampang Hospital.
: Hospital San Kamphaeng San Kamphaeng district, Tuesday, Friday 13:00 to 17:00 pm Tue, Fri 13.00-17.00.


Organic Market in Chiang Mai. Police Saket. DoiSaket Or-Bor-Tor.
: Police Saket Saket Tue 13:00 to 17:00 AM Monday Mon 13.00-17.00.


Sop Mae Taeng district, prolonging the organic market. Maetang Market.
: Road Chiang Mai - Pai district, Mae Taeng district prolonging meet every day (throughout the day). everyday all Day.


Sarapee market organic functions that Saraphi. Sarapee - Front of District Office.
: function that Saraphi Rd rubber Sarapee every day (throughout the day). everyday all Day.

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