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Toyota Corolla GXi. My wife was given this car by her mother who got it from her deceased sister. It has no spare, no lug wrench or jack and no owners manual. AND no green book. But little lady assures me it is coming from Bangkok and all is in order. I'll worry about that later.

It is registered through May 2558.

I know NOTHING about this automobile. Wife and her mother know nothing and I cannot find any manufacturer's information anywhere on the car. Nothing on the doors or door pillars, nothing in the engine compartment or trunk. Where do I find manufactures' data plates on Thai cars?

ODO indicates 313,000.

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What year is this car (or year range) I think it's a 90's era not 2000's but I don't know.

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sticker say's "belt" replaced but is it a timing belt or chain?

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It's been converted to LPG but it looks like a newer conversion. Or perhaps it's been LPG for awhile and has had system upgraded to newer. I just don't know.

I know nothing about LPG but I'm sure trying to learn. I think this car will run on gasoline as well as LPG? Is the little dohickey on the dash the only thing that switches it?

Thanks for any help.

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It must have ID plates as they are checked at MOT to correspond with numbers in the blue book so you can road tax it....

I've looked but cannot find any ID plates... the underside of the hood has a thick mat with a "safety mat" logo on it. Would the info be on the hood? I did find these but seems less than informative...

and yes thanks BLUE BOOK not green book...

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Does anyone know how this works? Does it toggle between gasoline and LPG or just turn the LPG on? When my wife drove it here from her mom's it was on. Well lighted up anyway. It has three green lights and a red light at the bottom. I guess these indicate how much LPG is in tank?

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You don't have the blue book?

Where is the blue book?

It is registered through May 2558 (sticker on the windscreeen?).

What will you do in May 2558?

No blue book, no chance to do anything.

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Yes, and it depends on whether or not it has been set up to run both fuels or not? The more green the more LP, getting close to red needs filling. Start the car and switch it to the opposite position and if it is both fuels it will possibly give a slight blip while the fuel switches over but then it should continue to run if it switches over to which ever fuel that may be? If it stalls it is either out of one fuel or the other, obviously neither if both gauges say otherwise, but if there is fuel it should continue to run in either position, it may be a tri-position switch though and one would be automatic switch over.

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You don't have the blue book?

Where is the blue book?

It is registered through May 2558 (sticker on the windscreeen?).

What will you do in May 2558?

No blue book, no chance to do anything.

Yes May 2558 sticker on windshield. And yes, NO BLUE BOOK (yet) but wife says it's ok, coming from Bangkok, don't worry. She has never steered me wrong so I'll go on faith for now. If the blue book is not in order then I guess we don't have a free car... sell it for scrap... whatever.

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Have a look at the label attached to the bottom of the seatbelt, usually near the floor anchorage point, if it's still legible that will tell you the year of manufacture.

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Yes, and it depends on whether or not it has been set up to run both fuels or not? The more green the more LP, getting close to red needs filling. Start the car and switch it to the opposite position and if it is both fuels it will possibly give a slight blip while the fuel switches over but then it should continue to run if it switches over to which ever fuel that may be? If it stalls it is either out of one fuel or the other, obviously neither if both gauges say otherwise, but if there is fuel it should continue to run in either position, it may be a tri-position switch though and one would be automatic switch over.

Thanks WarpSpeed... I just took it for a spin. I started the car and the LPG switch illuminated in flashing mode. After a few minutes it went to steady illumination. Drove around the block, stopped car, turned switch off, drove around the block again. No noticeable difference. Gasoline gauge indicates 1/4 tank... so yeah runs on both. Easy...

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Yes, and it depends on whether or not it has been set up to run both fuels or not? The more green the more LP, getting close to red needs filling. Start the car and switch it to the opposite position and if it is both fuels it will possibly give a slight blip while the fuel switches over but then it should continue to run if it switches over to which ever fuel that may be? If it stalls it is either out of one fuel or the other, obviously neither if both gauges say otherwise, but if there is fuel it should continue to run in either position, it may be a tri-position switch though and one would be automatic switch over.

Thanks WarpSpeed... I just took it for a spin. I started the car and the LPG switch illuminated in flashing mode. After a few minutes it went to steady illumination. Drove around the block, stopped car, turned switch off, drove around the block again. No noticeable difference. Gasoline gauge indicates 1/4 tank... so yeah runs on both. Easy...

I have posted up some advice for owning and using dual fuel cars here before to get the best longevity and performance out of them, so if you search there is some good advice there to switch between fuels on long hauls about every hour of run time on LP run 15 minutes on petrol to cool and lubricate the valves. And I always switched fuels about 10 minutes or so from my destination to again cool and lubricate the valves and leave valves with some lubrication on them while the engine is off. Start the car in petrol mode until it heats up to help the Lp atomize better by it heating up before entering the combustion chamber.

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Have a look at the label attached to the bottom of the seatbelt, usually near the floor anchorage point, if it's still legible that will tell you the year of manufacture.

TYVM yes there IS manufacturing info on seatbelt. 1996.

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Isn't the vehicle number somewhere behind the front drivers side wheel! That's where they get a rubbing from for tax etc

Thanks for the reply. I haven't found anything yet but still looking.

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re back lights

these were on 1996 - early 1999 models of the GXi

The Vin number should be on the firewall

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Thank you and, yes VIN is stamped on firewall... I just need to adjust my expectations thinking I'd find a USA style manufacture's plate. But TIT and I'm all good.

I'm pretty sure now it's a 1996.

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Yes, and it depends on whether or not it has been set up to run both fuels or not? The more green the more LP, getting close to red needs filling. Start the car and switch it to the opposite position and if it is both fuels it will possibly give a slight blip while the fuel switches over but then it should continue to run if it switches over to which ever fuel that may be? If it stalls it is either out of one fuel or the other, obviously neither if both gauges say otherwise, but if there is fuel it should continue to run in either position, it may be a tri-position switch though and one would be automatic switch over.

Thanks WarpSpeed... I just took it for a spin. I started the car and the LPG switch illuminated in flashing mode. After a few minutes it went to steady illumination. Drove around the block, stopped car, turned switch off, drove around the block again. No noticeable difference. Gasoline gauge indicates 1/4 tank... so yeah runs on both. Easy...

I have posted up some advice for owning and using dual fuel cars here before to get the best longevity and performance out of them, so if you search there is some good advice there to switch between fuels on long hauls about every hour of run time on LP run 15 minutes on petrol to cool and lubricate the valves. And I always switched fuels about 10 minutes or so from my destination to again cool and lubricate the valves and leave valves with some lubrication on them while the engine is off. Start the car in petrol mode until it heats up to help the Lp atomize better by it heating up before entering the combustion chamber.

Yes I been reading here and saw your posts as well as others. I'm amazed at how much information about LPG is available just on TV.

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re back lights

these were on 1996 - early 1999 models of the GXi

The Vin number should be on the firewall

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I find conflicting information about this engine on the internet. Do you know if it's a timing belt or timing chain. If it's a belt and the attached sticker means anything it's due for a new one. 313,000 on the odometer.

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re back lights

these were on 1996 - early 1999 models of the GXi

The Vin number should be on the firewall

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I find conflicting information about this engine on the internet. Do you know if it's a timing belt or timing chain. If it's a belt and the attached sticker means anything it's due for a new one. 313,000 on the odometer.

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No do not have one, next house up in Village has a 1999 model, and a few house up has a 1995 model, both change there cam belts between 90 - 100,000 KM

Both also have LPG, the older one he has to switch to petrol before turning off so starts on petrol, then switches to LPG, next door switches automatic..

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This LPG system looks fully auto - no manual switch - and will start on LPG untill you "blip" the throttle , or drive off. Manufacturers date may also be on some easily removed plastic pannels - look at the fuse holder flap , under dash .May also be etched onto some glass. This date will , by some months , be before the registered date., This engine has a cam belt , i suggest it be replaced in the next 6 months , as normaly every 6 years or 100,000 KM. Any main dealer or independant garage can do this ( Cockpit ? ).

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This LPG system looks fully auto - no manual switch - and will start on LPG untill you "blip" the throttle , or drive off. Manufacturers date may also be on some easily removed plastic pannels - look at the fuse holder flap , under dash .May also be etched onto some glass. This date will , by some months , be before the registered date., This engine has a cam belt , i suggest it be replaced in the next 6 months , as normaly every 6 years or 100,000 KM. Any main dealer or independant garage can do this ( Cockpit ? ).

OK! Belt, thank you. As far as the LPG system goes, I have absolutely no documentation. The LPG dongle on the dash says VERSUS and on a whim I searched that on Google. Surprise surprise Versus seems to be an established international producer of LPG conversion products. Perhaps I can get some documentation from them. Thanks again for the assistance.

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This LPG system looks fully auto - no manual switch - and will start on LPG untill you "blip" the throttle , or drive off. Manufacturers date may also be on some easily removed plastic pannels - look at the fuse holder flap , under dash .May also be etched onto some glass. This date will , by some months , be before the registered date., This engine has a cam belt , i suggest it be replaced in the next 6 months , as normaly every 6 years or 100,000 KM. Any main dealer or independant garage can do this ( Cockpit ? ).

Erm how do you know that? He already said he switched into another mode.. I don't know of a fully automatic system available there without being able to override the auto mode? Can you show me one please? It has a manual switch right on the front where the big round "power indicator" is. Why have that if it doesn't have a manual mode? You are manually turning it on and off..

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You are both correct. I spoke with man has same system as mine. It is fully automatic. But I also have ability to override LPG and run on gasoline. I really appreciate all the help guys... I was a bit lost but, look, one day later and I am getting up to speed. Regards

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WarpSpeed , i think you may be right. The white circle to the right of the 4 lightS , may be a micro / membrane switch .But then how do you know if your on petrol or gas .The systems i know have extra lights to also tell you this .The manual will tell Dogberry.

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The neighbor man I spoke with is Thai so didn't get all the details. But this I can tell you. Push the membrane switch and the lights go off, it's in gasoline mode. Push, lights on, LPG. Now whether it's on or off, when you shut the car off then start again the light always come's on but in flashing mode. It then goes solid in a couple of minutes. So the system is engineered to default to LPG (which seems correct to me). But does this mean it's starting on gasoline and waiting for warm up to go pure LPG? If so and the gasoline is depleted will it start? Or is it starting on LPG and the flashing indicates it's warming to operating temperature? I don't know... But yeah having fun finding out. So, yesterday drove to Mae Wang on LPG, switched it off for the return trip, and accordingly the gas gauge went down.

Am I correct thinking no harm done driving for an hour in gasoline mode? That's what it's designed to do, right,,, anyway.

Otherwise the tires are good but the struts are shot I think, chunking LF on bumps. Brakes are shot, can hear light scraping on application (wire in pad I think). Can't plug in GPS as cig lighter doesn't work. Glad it is cool enough to be crawling around a car... but all my beautiful tools? USA. Dang.

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WarpSpeed , i think you may be right. The white circle to the right of the 4 lightS , may be a micro / membrane switch .But then how do you know if your on petrol or gas .The systems i know have extra lights to also tell you this .The manual will tell Dogberry.

Well that is for him to work out. But one way would be to shut off the valve at the back on top of the tank while it's running when he thinks it's on LP and see if it continues to run, if it does that's the petrol side and if it doesn't? The answer is obvious, then try it again and switch it over and if the same thing, if it runs then that's the LP and must note which mode it's in and how it reacts, more lights? Less lights? Flashing lights and so on.. Also when he does change over while it's running, the engine should miss slightly, a momentary dead spot between when fuels are switching. Also repeat this with trying to start it and see what happens?

Op no problem with shutting it on and off and like I said you should switch between fuels for like at least 15 minutes of every hour to 1.5 hrs run time on Lp anyway so no you won't do it any harm actually you'll do it more good.

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re back lights

these were on 1996 - early 1999 models of the GXi

The Vin number should be on the firewall

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I find conflicting information about this engine on the internet. Do you know if it's a timing belt or timing chain. If it's a belt and the attached sticker means anything it's due for a new one. 313,000 on the odometer.

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These cars always had a timing belt. Just remove the cover and take a look at its condition. Once it breaks, you have a serious engine break down,

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