Police to examine assets seized from former CIB chief

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Police to examine assets seized from former CIB chief
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BANGKOK, Nov 27 -- A specially-formed Royal Thai Police Office committee will scrutinise assets seized from Pol Lt Gen Pongpat Chayapan, former chief of the Central Investigation Bureau (CIB).

Pol Lt Gen Prawut Thawornsiri, spokesman of the police office, said the committee would check nearly 20,000 items seized from Pol Lt Gen Pongpat and his accomplices.

Artifacts will be sent to the Fine Arts Department and carved and processed wood items will be sent to the Forest Industry Organization.

More assets are believed hidden at many locations in the country and none had been exported, the spokesman said. Investigators will check fingerprints and DNA samples with the seized assets to find out if there are more offenders linked to the case.

Tomorrow police will seek to prolong the detention of Natthapol, Sitthisak and Narong Akharapongpreecha, Sutthisak Sutthijit and Chakan Pakpoom who were charged with coercing, extortion and illegal detention in connection with crime by the gang of Pol Lt Gen Pongpat, the police spokesman said.

Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwon said the case concerned individuals and that the public should not develop a negative attitude against the entire police force. He said that the police are being reformed.

Justice Minister Gen Paiboon Koomchaya said he ordered the Department of Special Investigation to check if any known oil smugglers are connected to Lt Gen Pongpat's network. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2014-11-27

[Costas2008]

Wow, this reminds me of Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.

20,000 items seized?

How big somebody's greediness can be it's over my head.....................

[tullynagardy]

Wow, this reminds me of Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.

20,000 items seized?

How big somebody's greediness can be it's over my head.....................

Costas old buddy, do yourself a favour and read up about this is all really about. All isn`t as it seems. Even the BBC are hinting at it.

I can`t say it on here either or Ill get banned but it`s all there. Go and educate yourself

[chotthee]

Wow, this reminds me of Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.

20,000 items seized?

How big somebody's greediness can be it's over my head.....................

Costas old buddy, do yourself a favour and read up about this is all really about. All isn`t as it seems. Even the BBC are hinting at it.

I can`t say it on here either or Ill get banned but it`s all there. Go and educate yourself

I don't know what are you talking about.

Would you care to elaborate?

[Tatsujin]

Wow, this reminds me of Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.

20,000 items seized?

How big somebody's greediness can be it's over my head.....................

Costas old buddy, do yourself a favour and read up about this is all really about. All isn`t as it seems. Even the BBC are hinting at it.

I can`t say it on here either or Ill get banned but it`s all there. Go and educate yourself

I don't know what are you talking about.

Would you care to elaborate?

It can't be talked about. Go search, connect the dots, there are lots of hints out there that will point you in the right direction.

The paper we can't quote here drops a few not so subtle hints in their recent report.

[tullynagardy]

Wow, this reminds me of Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.

20,000 items seized?

How big somebody's greediness can be it's over my head.....................

Costas old buddy, do yourself a favour and read up about this is all really about. All isn`t as it seems. Even the BBC are hinting at it.

I can`t say it on here either or Ill get banned but it`s all there. Go and educate yourself

I don't know what are you talking about.

Would you care to elaborate?

As I said no I can`t.

But, as one of the posters who seems obsessed with the previous government and hasn`t quite grasped what this is all about, it would do you good to go out and read more about it.

Andrew MacGregors facebook page is a good start.

[alocacoc]

A foreign news report says, he earned 20 Million Baht each day from racketeering a casino.

[EvilDrSomkid]

It can't be talked about. Go search, connect the dots, there are lots of hints out there that will point you in the right direction.

The paper we can't quote here drops a few not so subtle hints in their recent report.

Just did.

Wow. If the allegation that they used HM name to collect some of these items is true, I can understand the LM charges.

Not only that, linked to the Southern violence. I have heard rumours that not all the violence in the south is linked to insurgents, but also to a large part is a turf war.

This case ties into the NCPO's effort to clamp down on Southern violence and LM.

If convicted, these suspects are in deeeep manure.

[tullynagardy]

Just did.

Wow. If the allegation that they used HM name to collect some of these items is true, I can understand the LM charges.

Not only that, linked to the Southern violence. I have heard rumours that not all the violence in the south is linked to insurgents, but also to a large part is a turf war.

This case ties into the NCPO's effort to clamp down on Southern violence and LM.

If convicted, these suspects are in deeeep manure.

Thats not what we are talking about, thats simply the official story you are reciting.

Time magazine has a good story in it regarding this

[Rumble]

I really hope that they took a complete inventory on the goods immediately after the seizure and not just let it lay around in some place of safety.

[Tatsujin]

It can't be talked about. Go search, connect the dots, there are lots of hints out there that will point you in the right direction.

The paper we can't quote here drops a few not so subtle hints in their recent report.

Just did.

Wow. If the allegation that they used HM name to collect some of these items is true, I can understand the LM charges.

Not only that, linked to the Southern violence. I have heard rumours that not all the violence in the south is linked to insurgents, but also to a large part is a turf war.

This case ties into the NCPO's effort to clamp down on Southern violence and LM.

If convicted, these suspects are in deeeep manure.

The person you mention is incorrect ...

[Chang_paarp]

Bangkok Pundit put it well.

bangkokpundit ‏@bangkokpundit

Oh <deleted> , will twits in various forums and on news sites stop commentating that some recent arrests r really abt corruption…

[EvilDrSomkid]

It can't be talked about. Go search, connect the dots, there are lots of hints out there that will point you in the right direction.

The paper we can't quote here drops a few not so subtle hints in their recent report.

Just did.

Wow. If the allegation that they used HM name to collect some of these items is true, I can understand the LM charges.

Not only that, linked to the Southern violence. I have heard rumours that not all the violence in the south is linked to insurgents, but also to a large part is a turf war.

This case ties into the NCPO's effort to clamp down on Southern violence and LM.

If convicted, these suspects are in deeeep manure.

The person you mention is incorrect ...

umpteenth edit:

I will not comment of this topic anymore. Way too dangerous.

Edited November 27, 2014 by EvilDrSomkid

[goldmonky]

it really make one wonder how many other officials have hidden vaults or safes , I mean you don`t put your ill gotten riches in a bank do you??? Maybe there should be raids on the people who`s resorces they have already checked.Just a thought ...

[NeverSure]

I don't know why those with information can't say more. I can't find much, but what I find is that 30 officers are part of a bribery scheme, many having safes hidden and containing illegal items from antiquities to garages with valuable cars to land deeds. The amount of value so far is staggering.

It is said more arrests are expected. It does all seem to point back to the former chief of the CIB somehow.

I don't understand the bribery part. I do see where HMK's name was used fraudulently to pull some of this off. I can't say that? How does that dishonor HMK? Doesn't that dishonor the perps alone? Thai news sources don't seem afraid to mention that.

Who were they bribing for such vast sums? Was it people who were illegally using land? I keep wondering about things such as a certain island that is untouchable. Maybe it isn't connected, but land use appears to be.

Doesn't someone know something less sketchy that it doesn't take ten articles to scratch the surface?

Edited November 27, 2014 by NeverSure

[chotthee]

Army good.

Police bad.

Motto of the day.

[NeverSure]

Army good.

Police bad.

Motto of the day.

The CIB is a division of the police. There have been articles that say there is jealousy between them, but why the CIB and not the police as a whole?

[tullynagardy]

I don't know why those with information can't say more. I can't find much, but what I find is that 30 officers are part of a bribery scheme, many having safes hidden and containing illegal items from antiquities to garages with valuable cars to land deeds. The amount of value so far is staggering.

It is said more arrests are expected. It does all seem to point back to the former chief of the CIB somehow.

I don't understand the bribery part. I do see where HMK's name was used fraudulently to pull some of this off. I can't say that? How does that dishonor HMK? Doesn't that dishonor the perps alone? Thai news sources don't seem afraid to mention that.

Who were they bribing for such vast sums? Was it people who were illegally using land? I keep wondering about things such as a certain island that is untouchable. Maybe it isn't connected, but land use appears to be.

Doesn't someone know something less sketchy that it doesn't take ten articles to scratch the surface?

Go to Time magazine and read their article which explains it reasonably well. Ill not link to it.

[danbradster]

Go to Time magazine and read their article which explains it reasonably well. Ill not link to it.

"The Military Vows to Rule Thailand Until 2016 and Ramps Up Political Purges"

[exona]

Is it surprising that the average whistle mobber/ junta apologists are struggling to connect the dots on this one?

[slapout]

It would be interesting to see a real accounting of the value involved. How long did it take to amass this kind of wealth. and how does this "relative small group" proportion out in the grand total of corupt police numbers? I doubt that we will ever hear how much of each years total Thai budget is stolen in this manner.

The scary part is the head of this small group may be typical of the majority of Thai politicans, civil employees, etc, and then add in the private sector who conduct business with them.

I have been against any blanket forgiveness but with the probability that there are thousands of corrupt individuals out there who may have stolen what could turn out to be 1/2 of the taxes, etc collected by Thai governments each year I think if they returned what they stole and what they gained with those funds, the other cheek may be turned. Then tax of any kind could be discontinued for a generation or more.

[noitom]

Like in the film "casino" The players are watching the cards, the dealers are watching the players, the table bosses are watching the dealers, the pit bosses are watching the table managers, the floor managers are watching the pit bosses, and the casino manager is watching the floor managers, at the eye in the sky is watching everyone.

Thais have a lot of folks "examining" and scrutinizing. No Thai big men above the police are being arrested. No politicians, no government employees, and no military protection goons, no bankers laundering the take. The loot was/is always unguarded. No Thai big men involved. Never a banker arrested.

[simple1]

I don't know why those with information can't say more. I can't find much, but what I find is that 30 officers are part of a bribery scheme, many having safes hidden and containing illegal items from antiquities to garages with valuable cars to land deeds. The amount of value so far is staggering.

It is said more arrests are expected. It does all seem to point back to the former chief of the CIB somehow.

I don't understand the bribery part. I do see where HMK's name was used fraudulently to pull some of this off. I can't say that? How does that dishonor HMK? Doesn't that dishonor the perps alone? Thai news sources don't seem afraid to mention that.

Who were they bribing for such vast sums? Was it people who were illegally using land? I keep wondering about things such as a certain island that is untouchable. Maybe it isn't connected, but land use appears to be.

Doesn't someone know something less sketchy that it doesn't take ten articles to scratch the surface?

As referenced in the OP, oil smuggling in the Deep South that assists in funding the insurgency, over the years, must generate huge illegal income. RTP are not the only Thai government department involved with corrupt activity in the Deep South e.g. military personnel assisting with people trafficking.

The RTP are now under the command of the military. So far it does not appear any of the alleged offenders have been charged with treason, for assisting the insurgency, which would result in far more serious consequences for the offenders than LM or corruption convictions.

Whilst it's somewhat off topic, its been mentioned numerous times, in relevance to the conflict in the Deep South, follow the money.

Edited November 27, 2014 by simple1

[ezzra]

Those examiners are rubbing their hands in glee, after all someone left the cats to look after the milk..

I wonder who's going to exam the examiners when they have done examining ?....

[h90]

Pol Lt Gen Pongpat Chayapan is already released on bail, or?

And will remain free for at least 10 years....

[Si Thea01]

Wow, this reminds me of Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.

20,000 items seized?

How big somebody's greediness can be it's over my head.....................

Reminds me of "beware of Greeks bearing gifts." Not serious Costas.

[Baerboxer]

Wow, this reminds me of Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.

20,000 items seized?

How big somebody's greediness can be it's over my head.....................

Costas old buddy, do yourself a favour and read up about this is all really about. All isn`t as it seems. Even the BBC are hinting at it.

I can`t say it on here either or Ill get banned but it`s all there. Go and educate yourself

I don't know what are you talking about.

Would you care to elaborate?

As I said no I can`t.

But, as one of the posters who seems obsessed with the previous government and hasn`t quite grasped what this is all about, it would do you good to go out and read more about it.

Andrew MacGregors facebook page is a good start.

A Shakespearean tragedy springs to mind. How those in control of Europe from after the Romans up till WW1 behaved (and some still do!).

Of course, if you indulge in corruption, you have an Achilles heel which can be exposed when there's a change at the top, or you fall from grace. The old medieval barons got axed - literally. Their modern day equivalents - the banker and corporate elites simply get a smaller bonus, oh the shame.

All these machinations require tremendous energy. An energy that could be put to much better use, as could the billions and billions being siphoned off by the greedy rich to get richer.

The future does not look to be an easy path.

[wabothai]

When all the scumbacks'illegal assets come to light and confiscated Thailand won't need any tourism at all. There will be no need for TAT as well.

all poor people will get a nice deposit in their bankaccount, everybody will be able to buy a car, all farmers will be paid in full, no need for the stalls on the beaches, new roads in rural areas, old buildings can be painted again, hotels can be remodelled and brought up to standard, and so on.

When the funds eventually run out we will see a renewed Thailand under civilian governement with a policeforce which can be truste and will enforce traffic laws,the tourists will come back in masses, and everybody will be happy.

just an idea.

[bangon04]

Just did.

Wow. If the allegation that they used HM name to collect some of these items is true, I can understand the LM charges.

Not only that, linked to the Southern violence. I have heard rumours that not all the violence in the south is linked to insurgents, but also to a large part is a turf war.

This case ties into the NCPO's effort to clamp down on Southern violence and LM.

If convicted, these suspects are in deeeep manure.

Thats not what we are talking about, thats simply the official story you are reciting.

Time magazine has a good story in it regarding this

Yes it has. Is the magazine available inside Thailand? Or banned?

[wabothai]

The scariest of all this is that the beast got away with this and nobody opened his mouth for years.

This cancer has to be cut away from Thailand before it is too late.