10 arrests in Paris, bomb threat closes train station

[Ulysses G.]

Off course not. He is just an innocent bystander, that has been investigated by the FBI for terror-related financing twice, and puts out propaganda advising people not to speak to them.

Edited January 25, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[Steely Dan]

The Muslim brotherhood spawned CAIR, MAS and sundry western mouthpieces for Islam purporting to be moderates, they are also the root of just about all radical Islamist terror groups. And yet we are debating a minute detail concerning one Taqiyya distribution center.

Exactly and typical of 7by7's relentless attempts to distort and distract from every issue concerning radical Islam.

Indeed, if you read the following Washington Post article you can see just how organized is the network of those trying to silence debate about Islam. There is a sliding scale from character assassination to veiled threats all the way up to murder.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/meet-the-honor-brigade-an-organized-campaign-to-silence-critics-of-islam/2015/01/16/0b002e5a-9aaf-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html

Yet still some brave Muslims speak out about this and call the phony Islamophobia for the thought terminating cliche that it is. Too bad that some non-Muslims army water for the very worst of Muslims whilst they are silent regarding the ostracizing or death threats for the reformers, such as Zuhdi Jasser, or apostates such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Edited January 25, 2015 by Steely Dan

[7by7]

Where do you get information from, Ulysses G?

The man who thinks Birmingham is a 100% Muslim city which non Muslims dare not enter?

Maybe the woman who thinks that because one of the four drivers involved in a fatal road traffic collision in Manchester has a Muslim name then it was a jihadist attack?

The searches and subpoena related to his activities in protesting about Bush and Blair's adventure in Iraq; something many people, of all faiths, protested about.

He did not put out the poster in question nor, as far as I know, any other propaganda advising people not to speak to the FBI.

He has, though, advised people on their constitutional rights when being investigated by the FBI and other law enforcement agencies.

If you consider that to be a crime, let alone terrorism, maybe you'd be happier living in North Korea!

Ditto if you think a person should be held responsible for the alleged crimes of their relatives.

Edited January 25, 2015 by 7by7

[Ulysses G.]

Where do you get information from, Ulysses G?

From YOUR source at Fox News - that directly contradicted your insinuations, for a start.

Edited January 25, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[7by7]

You have already cherry picked quotes from that article out of context, so what does it actually say about Hatem Abudayyeh.

The poster was promoting a conference called, “FBI Raids and Grand Jury Subpoenas: Know Your Rights and Defend Our Communities.” The keynote speaker is Hatem Abudayyeh, identified by CAIR as an activist and Palestinian community leader whose home was allegedly raided by federal agents in September.

No allegations of terrorism or support of terrorists there!

Why do you oppose American citizens being advised of their constitutional rights?

[7by7]

The Muslim brotherhood spawned CAIR, MAS and sundry western mouthpieces for Islam purporting to be moderates, they are also the root of just about all radical Islamist terror groups. And yet we are debating a minute detail concerning one Taqiyya distribution center.

Exactly and typical of 7by7's relentless attempts to distort and distract from every issue concerning radical Islam.

Indeed, if you read the following Washington Post article you can see just how organized is the network of those trying to silence debate about Islam. There is a sliding scale from character assassination to veiled threats all the way up to murder.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/meet-the-honor-brigade-an-organized-campaign-to-silence-critics-of-islam/2015/01/16/0b002e5a-9aaf-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html

Yet still some brave Muslims speak out about this and call the phony Islamophobia for the thought terminating cliche that it is. Too bad that some non-Muslims army water for the very worst of Muslims whilst they are silent regarding the ostracizing or death threats for the reformers, such as Zuhdi Jasser, or apostates such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Again, I am accused of attempting to distort and distract from every issue concerning radical Islam.

It seems that I am now also being accused of trying to silence debate, character assassination and maybe even veiled threats!

Of course, those who have read my posts will see that this is not so; in fact I have condemned jihadism, terrorism etc. at every opportunity.

Indeed, it is my detractors who consistently use such tactics, one particular poster (not Steely Dan nor Ulysses G) has threatened me with physical violence should we ever meet.

Silencing debate and free speech is wrong, whether those so doing are radical Islamists, Islamaphobes or anyone else.

One can abhor what is being said whilst still defending the right to say it.

Criticising and opposing radical Islamists, Islamic terrorism, jihadism is not Islamaphobia.

Blaming all Muslims for such is Islamaphobia.

Posting obvious <deleted> on the internet, such as the two examples given above, to 'prove' all Muslims are terrorists is Islamaphobia.

Many of the posts in this and other topics spouting similar nonsense and using such websites as their evidence is also Islamaphobia.

[Ulysses G.]

You have already cherry picked quotes from that article out of context, so what does it actually say about Hatem Abudayyeh.

More nonsense from the king of cheery picking. THIS is what the article on YOUR SOURCE says that directly contradicts your assertions:

From Fox News about CAIR Legislative Director Corey Saylor's appearance on the show:

Hooper conceded the poster “crosses the line” but refused to renounce the artwork and blamed critics for fomenting what he called a manufactured controversy.

http://radio.foxnews...alk-to-the-fbi/

HERE is just one of the sources on the FIRST investigation by the FBI for funding terrorist: There was also a SECOND one later

Last Friday, FBI agents executed a search warrant at Abudayyeh’s Chicago home as part of a coordinated series of raids involving at least one other Chicago site, along with the homes of anti-war activists in Minnesota. A copy posted on the web of a grand jury subpoena served on one target of the raids in Minneapolis demands “all records of any payment provided directly or indirectly to Hatem Abudayyeh, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (“PFLP”) or the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (“FARC”).”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/1010/Target_of_FBI_terrorsupport_raid_visited_WH.html

Edited January 25, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[Ulysses G.]

No allegations of terrorism or support of terrorists there!

Besides the fact that he has been investigated by the FBI twice for funding terrorism, how about his own words? He sounds pretty supportive:

“The U.S. and Israel will continue to describe Hamas, Hezbollah and the other Palestinian and Lebanese resistance organizations as ‘terrorists,’ but the real terrorists are the governments and military forces of the U.S. and Israel”

[Steely Dan]

No allegations of terrorism or support of terrorists there!

Besides the fact that he has been investigated by the FBI twice for funding terrorism, how about his own words? He sounds pretty supportive:

“The U.S. and Israel will continue to describe Hamas, Hezbollah and the other Palestinian and Lebanese resistance organizations as ‘terrorists,’ but the real terrorists are the governments and military forces of the U.S. and Israel”

And strangely enough that exact attitude is reflected in both the posts made and recommended by guess who. As such and despite denials to the contrary he clearly shares the same aims as CAIR, a designated terror organization by the UAE, who I guess must therefore be Islamophobic. Edited January 25, 2015 by Steely Dan

[JockPieandBeans]

Indeed, it is my detractors who consistently use such tactics, one particular poster (not Steely Dan nor Ulysses G) has threatened me with physical violence should we ever meet.

If a poster had threatened you with physical violence on these pages, he would have been banned immediately. So name and shame him / her.

Your paranoia is now getting the better of you and I would strongly recommend a visit to a doctor.

Blaming all Muslims for such is Islamaphobia.

Feel free to point out anyone who has blamed ALL Muslims for the atrocities that are being carried out in the name of Islam.

Many of the posts in this and other topics spouting similar nonsense and using such websites as their evidence is also Islamaphobia.

As you are the master of using websites, as a consequence of having next to no real life experience, what does that make you ?