Two confess to killing Turkish tourist in Samui

[ll2]

Straight out murder then by a couple of numbskulls.

Who walks into a bar ( forang ) tooled up with a pistol

If you ask me this Turk was a menace and probably played with fire and got burnt

I am sorry but more to this story than what is written and it ain't murder

If someone specially a foreigner was to come into my place of business and start trouble and i could see he was tooled up then should I let him bully and intimidate me in my own bar ( if I was thai ) in my own country

Some people just read a comment without a clue

People

Don't just shoot people out in the open without some sort of argument

I reckon if he wasn't carrying a gun he would will be here today

that is crazy to say, fist of all, i dont believe he was carrying a gun and even he was carrying a gun, is it a reason for two guys shot a guy with multiple guns and with one final shot on the ground?

second if lets say it is Songkran and one carrying a toy water gun on his waist, do they still shoot that guy?

why some bar guys are armed in an advertised as peaceful paradise island of Koh Samui?

do they shoot everyone creating problems?

this is like f...i..n..g wild wild west man if you think it aint murder! maybe this is very normal for you but not for everyone!

lets say turkish guy is a problematic one still i believe Thai guys overreacted and want to show some power. they get some ego explosions at times you know.

and for the police, i am sure they checked the cctv cameras at the first place and possibly know the truth from the beginning but...(you can guess the rest:))

[Opl]

There is no good reason for killing drunken customers when you are in the bar business.

2 people shooting twice at an unarmed and wounded drunken customer show how they consider their customers in general, drunken or not.

Employing killers as security guard and bar manager says enough on the real nature of the business.

There are enough of other places where you can have a drink safely, how can we warn tourists of the danger of some places ( AC bar in KT, Solo bar in KS etc...)?

[ll2]

Once again many posters, blaming the victim.

She smiled nicely and said hello, so she deserved to be raped.

He was drunk and falling down, so he deserved to get his head kicked in.

They should have stayed at a better hotel, so they deserved to be ripped off .

He walked into the bar, when he shouldn't have ,so he deserved to be shot twice. Once at point blank range as he was crawling out the bar.

Sickos .

totally agree!

for some it is easy to shrug the shoulders and close the case.

but no one answers, why the bar guys are armed? where do they find those guns?

Koh Samui is a paradise or a hell wild wild west?

Do island mafia think they can kill anyone and create a setup to confuse the authorities to get away? god knows how many times this is done to numerous victims?

Please focus on the cold blooded murder, not like he is caryying a gun therefore deserved to die. bc it can happen to you as well and even sometime no need to carry a gun to get killed here, no?

[Aussiescott]

My original post on this thread was deleted... i said this was a stitch up in the original thread before this one, now we ALL know it was stitched up and BS... you people still think he wasn't set up/planted with the other pistol as well, if in fact it was on him to begin with, has this been proven as fact or just more BS from the BIB???

So many delusional people here that think that it is still ok to execute people like this... look at the facts sherlocks, he didnt brandish the alleged piece in this incident, he was executed. All the allegations about him calling himself Mafia, which is a Thai thing anyways, given to f wits who think they are tough, may well be true, but from all the evidence given by the BS media is just hearsay, nothing solid and he was probably a Businessman who objected to the BS we all do, when having to do Business here, i have as well and in this f ed up society, he was probably was fed up and has invested his life savings in trying to live here.

Do you people even know how the underworld work here in all areas of their society??? I guess not, because to you it is all cut and dry and you believe the propaganda BS you read from ill informed media and corrupt officials always portraying US farangs as the bad guys, its a complete Thai f*ed up thing about keeping face, it happens in everyday life, all the way up to the stupid Government and higher still...

WAKE up this is not paradise everywhere, it has a seedy, grubby underworld and underlying social understanding, that farang are only good for money and thats it.. there is no respect for us, because they are so intellectually behind first world thinking, its "child-like"...

I feel sorry that their government has not educated their people like they should be, God knows i try everyday to impart some first world respect and knowledge like we are used too to my staff and my wife and kid, but this is Thai life.... in the village and in the tourist areas. GET IT!!! Its barbaric and NOT right, killing is NOT the answer, but who do they have to answer too? A stupid uneducated corrupt police force that will let them off, so its easy pickings. I bet 99.9% of you have never seen this way of life, so dont think it doesnt happen, this happens so much its scary, Thais are smart at doing what we in 1st world countries think is criminal and unjust! DELETE my post again Mods, coz the truth hurts and u cant expose what really goes on here, coz your site will be closed down by the corrupt people that oversee your site, ie the Thai Government and whoever else. Thainess at its best yet again...When will people see that this place and what it does to farang is disgusting! God Bless stay safe!

[RAZZELL]

No explanation as to why the Turkish fella had the large amount of $$$ on him?

Drug dealer?

RAZZ

Edited February 16, 2015 by RAZZELL

[ll2]

No explanation as to why the Turkish fella had the large amount of $$$ on him?

Drug dealer?

RAZZ

same explanation. possibly while planting the gun or guns on him.

does not ring a bell man? c'mon.

[kiwikeith]

At this point, well done by the RTP.

But ThaiVisa needs someone to create and manage a new forum: "Whatever Happened To …?"

There are so many stories that have disappeared, that readers are interested in.

What, for example, will happen to these two retards, after the story dies away? A year or two in prison, if not less?

and what will happen to the B2

And what is happening with Mr Looker?

[phetphet]

I cannot believe how calmly that guy acts after shooting someone in the head at close range. Also in that video in post no.61, he looks like he is smiling at 3:34 when re-enacting for the police.

[greenchair]

At this point, well done by the RTP.

But ThaiVisa needs someone to create and manage a new forum: "Whatever Happened To ?"

There are so many stories that have disappeared, that readers are interested in.

What, for example, will happen to these two retards, after the story dies away? A year or two in prison, if not less?

and what will happen to the B2

And what is happening with Mr Looker?

And what about the french guy.

And what about Christina.

And what about the swiss guy.

And yes, what about Mr looker

[whaleboneman]

From what I read the staff were also present at the time, so they also lied , maybe the Turk was cutting either the manager or the security mans grass? Problem solved eliminate the competition.

solo bar has been there from day dot.. they are a handy family gang who own that bar.. the shooting wont be much trouble for them .. u get in more trouble driving moped without helmet ...

What do you mean by a handy family gang? Do they do all their own maintenance?

[firestar]

Once again many posters, blaming the victim.

She smiled nicely and said hello, so she deserved to be raped.

He was drunk and falling down, so he deserved to get his head kicked in.

They should have stayed at a better hotel, so they deserved to be ripped off .

He walked into the bar, when he shouldn't have ,so he deserved to be shot twice. Once at point blank range as he was crawling out the bar.

Sickos .

there are probably a few lowlifes supporting this killing and Thailand definately can attract some real scum. Not directed at anyone.

Nobody is saying he deserved to be killed but polot Mehmet better known on Samui as "Ali" has been walking around armed, bragging about his mafia connections for years.

A drunk driver has every chance of ending in a ditch....

It just isn't very surprising news.

[Aussiescott]

No explanation as to why the Turkish fella had the large amount of $$$ on him?

Drug dealer?

RAZZ

Maybe in this case he is a grub Razz, i know there are many bad farang here and if you live by he sword, you deserve to die by it... this place is a haven for bad farang trying to escape the law in their own country for doing wrong, thats why thailand and its Authorities are so f* ed up by the baht and the bribes, they let them in here, so they are to blame for doing this which doesnt make it right for us farang trying to make a living and do the right thing by the law of this land... what i am saying is this, it doesnt just happen to people who deserve it, it happens to normal, good farang as well, who buck the corrupt and racist, unjust system that is Thailands cancer and i never believe anything i read or hear unless it is undeniably proven without a doubt... because through experience, many thais will BS through their back teeth about anything because they dont know common ethical values that we do, from the person selling u a watch on the beach, to the BIB, to the Government, this is a proven fact, you read about it everyday, you live it everyday if you live here, this is the Thai way.

I LOVE Thailand and its people, the same as i love my kids if they lie to me, BUT it has to stop, society has to learn to respect and stop this hatred and scamming and racism against farang, when we are bringing home the bacon to them. Trust me, i have had guns ointed at me, when i am trying to do my job and help build a better place here, because some Thai loses face, i have been bashed because i use my intellect and not fists against stupidity, but because the said Thai, cant keep up with verbal communication, they come back with 4 mates and bash me....Thais are weak by themselves, or without a weapon, thats just who they are, i feel so sorry for them, but this is Thai life.

Sometimes i cannot understand how a society is so lost on moral values and cannot get how to treat their fellow human beings, i am beaten in trying to change it, I am leaving for good once i wrap things up, coz i want to live a happy life again without all the violence and lies, which is ONLY something you will experience if you live here, Peace out!

Edited February 16, 2015 by Aussiescott

[Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere]

They will be rewarded with attitude adjustment bail and a slap on the wrist as part of "save tourism's face" for a little tea money fine....

Wanna bet?

I'll take 50 dollars you are wrong. They will serve time in prison or the Pm will lose face and be criticized by the International community.

Edited February 16, 2015 by Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere

[Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere]

No explanation as to why the Turkish fella had the large amount of $$$ on him?

Drug dealer?

RAZZ

Maybe in this case he is a grub Razz, i know there are many bad farang here and if you live by he sword, you deserve to die by it... this place is a haven for bad farang trying to escape the law in their own country for doing wrong, thats why thailand and its Authorities are so f* ed up by the baht and the bribes, they let them in here, so they are to blame for doing this which doesnt make it right for us farang trying to make a living and do the right thing by the law of this land... what i am saying is this, it doesnt just happen to people who deserve it, it happens to normal, good farang as well, who buck the corrupt and racist, unjust system that is Thailands cancer and i never believe anything i read or hear unless it is undeniably proven without a doubt... because through experience, many thais will BS through their back teeth about anything because they dont know common ethical values that we do, from the person selling u a watch on the beach, to the BIB, to the Government, this is a proven fact, you read about it everyday, you live it everyday if you live here, this is the Thai way.

I LOVE Thailand and its people, the same as i love my kids if they lie to me, BUT it has to stop, society has to learn to respect and stop this hatred and scamming and racism against farang, when we are bringing home the bacon to them. Trust me, i have had guns ointed at me, when i am trying to do my job and help build a better place here, because some Thai loses face, i have been bashed because i use my intellect and not fists against stupidity, but because the said Thai, cant keep up with verbal communication, they come back with 4 mates and bash me....Thais are weak by themselves, or without a weapon, thats just who they are, i feel so sorry for them, but this is Thai life.

Sometimes i cannot understand how a society is so lost on moral values and cannot get how to treat their fellow human beings, i am beaten in trying to change it, I am leaving for good once i wrap things up, coz i want to live a happy life again without all the violence and lies, which is ONLY something you will experience if you live here, Peace out!

Amen to reality because up until now we've all been deceived. As tourist we saw a different side but that was because most farang experience only the service sector smiling and waiing thais. But when you unpack your bags to live here then you see the truth. Most the good traditional thais you probably will never have an opportunity to encounter unless you get lost upcountry.

[spectrumisgreen]

Straight out murder then by a couple of numbskulls.

Mmm.. a difficult case for Columbo, it wasn't!!..

'So, as your friend here corroborates, you simply drew your shotgun, Mister Kanapong, and blasted the man down in the early hours of this morning, in self-defence, fearing for your own life?.. and that it's just a pity that this video camera here (without any film in it anyway) was not only empty of film but was aiming AWAY from the direction of the incident, otherwise it would prove the absolute truth of your claims, yes?'.. 'Well, I put it to you, gentlemen, that this array above our heads of other (fully-loaded) cameras aiming DIRECTLY at where the incident took place, AND this .38 caliber pistol, Mister Mehet the 'would-be attacker' held in his deceased hand, with YOUR name on it, Mister Kabin, tell us a very DIFFERENT story...'

Edited February 16, 2015 by spectrumisgreen

[sambum]

At least and last RTP did take a stand and arrested the curlprits. Job well done . Ensuring proper justice will for sure make thailand a safer place, that's what I believe.

as already mentioned this guy was obviously a thug

In my books walking into the bar making demands with a gun in his belt and showing it (probably not the first time) is as good as taking it out and pointing it - although that part of the story is somewhat unclear as to whether they new he was carrying or not

what sort of place would Thailand be if every falang or wannabe falang thug was walking around with a gun hanging out of their waist band - I for one would not be living here

In saying that - the bar manager should have called the police and let them deal with it

They called the police many times and escorted him away

But he kept coming back

This is not the first time he made problems in the place he had many businesses on the island and was well known in the area

Looks like the this tried to cover it up but I don't think they were wrong I reckon they just had enough

If a Thai was to murder someone they would do 2 on a bike a professional hit

This was an argument whilst playing with drink, guns and probably more

Might be because of the gun laws in entertainment Venus

They might have been worried about the laws that say that you cannot have a firearm in any entertainment Venus more than the law about protecting their bar

Yes, a well known dubious character, with businesses on the island, so why do the headlines keep calling him a "Turkish tourist"?

Edited February 16, 2015 by sambum

[cookee68]

I see so many comments looks like anti Thai politics anti Thai way of rule way of life. Why are you lot still here if it's that bad. Don't make any sense????

Well my understanding of life is, if you carry a gun around with you then you are probably not a good person, if you are carrying illegally, so no sympathy here from me, regardless of where you are from

[Travelman868]

BUT THEY planted the .38 on him to make it look that he was armed. THEY did not know he had a pistol Duh.

OR were they going to suggest he shot himself with the .38 and the guard though he would help him to do the job properly.

OR the Turkish man realised that the shotgun had blown his head off and did not want to be left disabled.

only in Thailand

[RAZZELL]

No explanation as to why the Turkish fella had the large amount of $$$ on him?

Drug dealer?

RAZZ

Maybe in this case he is a grub Razz, i know there are many bad farang here and if you live by he sword, you deserve to die by it... this place is a haven for bad farang trying to escape the law in their own country for doing wrong, thats why thailand and its Authorities are so f* ed up by the baht and the bribes, they let them in here, so they are to blame for doing this which doesnt make it right for us farang trying to make a living and do the right thing by the law of this land... what i am saying is this, it doesnt just happen to people who deserve it, it happens to normal, good farang as well, who buck the corrupt and racist, unjust system that is Thailands cancer and i never believe anything i read or hear unless it is undeniably proven without a doubt... because through experience, many thais will BS through their back teeth about anything because they dont know common ethical values that we do, from the person selling u a watch on the beach, to the BIB, to the Government, this is a proven fact, you read about it everyday, you live it everyday if you live here, this is the Thai way.

I LOVE Thailand and its people, the same as i love my kids if they lie to me, BUT it has to stop, society has to learn to respect and stop this hatred and scamming and racism against farang, when we are bringing home the bacon to them. Trust me, i have had guns ointed at me, when i am trying to do my job and help build a better place here, because some Thai loses face, i have been bashed because i use my intellect and not fists against stupidity, but because the said Thai, cant keep up with verbal communication, they come back with 4 mates and bash me....Thais are weak by themselves, or without a weapon, thats just who they are, i feel so sorry for them, but this is Thai life.

Sometimes i cannot understand how a society is so lost on moral values and cannot get how to treat their fellow human beings, i am beaten in trying to change it, I am leaving for good once i wrap things up, coz i want to live a happy life again without all the violence and lies, which is ONLY something you will experience if you live here, Peace out!

It would be nice if you broke your post up with a paragraphs! :-)

Samui is like any other holiday/party place.

Drifters and wrong 'uns congregate there to get cheap sex and make a few quid by pulling scams, selling drugs or whatever.

Same all around the world. Seems this fella just got a bit out of his depth. (Any more information on what he actually got up too there?)

Sorry, I don't think any Thai would "plant" 100k or 200k (forgot what amount?) on a dead man.

RAZZ

[dodojero]

.... the Turkish tourist often came to the bar, got drunk, intimidated the bar's staff and created a scene.

Wowwww. .... what a good business man the manager is. He kills his regular customer.

[tomacht8]

3 guns, 3 gangsters, 2 shots, 1 dead.
The circumstances of the first shot can not be clearly seen on CCTV.
The second shot was an Execution.

Maybe the court will give the second gunner in its judgment the same favor.

The pleasure tonight to visit a bar has passed me.

[saroq]

Straight out murder then by a couple of numbskulls.

Who walks into a bar ( forang ) tooled up with a pistol

If you ask me this Turk was a menace and probably played with fire and got burnt

I am sorry but more to this story than what is written and it ain't murder

If someone specially a foreigner was to come into my place of business and start trouble and i could see he was tooled up then should I let him bully and intimidate me in my own bar ( if I was thai ) in my own country

Some people just read a comment without a clue

People

Don't just shoot people out in the open without some sort of argument

I reckon if he wasn't carrying a gun he would will be here today

Agree. Live by the sword and all that. No sympathy for the Turk.

[snarky66]

At least and last RTP did take a stand and arrested the curlprits. Job well done . Ensuring proper justice will for sure make thailand a safer place, that's what I believe.

as already mentioned this guy was obviously a thug

In my books walking into the bar making demands with a gun in his belt and showing it (probably not the first time) is as good as taking it out and pointing it - although that part of the story is somewhat unclear as to whether they new he was carrying or not

what sort of place would Thailand be if every falang or wannabe falang thug was walking around with a gun hanging out of their waist band - I for one would not be living here

In saying that - the bar manager should have called the police and let them deal with it

They called the police many times and escorted him away

But he kept coming back

This is not the first time he made problems in the place he had many businesses on the island and was well known in the area

Looks like the this tried to cover it up but I don't think they were wrong I reckon they just had enough

If a Thai was to murder someone they would do 2 on a bike a professional hit

This was an argument whilst playing with drink, guns and probably more

Might be because of the gun laws in entertainment Venus

They might have been worried about the laws that say that you cannot have a firearm in any entertainment Venus more than the law about protecting their bar

The kind of quality tourist Thailand is looking for.

[BigC]

It appears that perhaps Mr. Poletari was probably the kind of guy that wouldn't be very forgiving if he was shot and wounded and allowed to recover. Finishing him off may have been the best way to make the problem go away permanently.

If you are going to mess with Thais, never ever ever mess with Thais in a bar...also taxi or tuk tuk drivers.

He sounds like someone that would have ended his life in jail or by the sword

Fare play you came you played you lost

Lesson for all other forang gangsters you might be big back home but the Thais run this place

Sometimes a killing like this can send a message to all them plastic gangsters out there

[BigC]

Story now is that he was shot by the shot gun and his friend wanted to make sure he stare down. Was not aware of the details of the argument but probably wanted to put him out of is misery

I doubt he would live long with a shot gun wound

[BigC]

At least and last RTP did take a stand and arrested the curlprits. Job well done . Ensuring proper justice will for sure make thailand a safer place, that's what I believe.

as already mentioned this guy was obviously a thug

In my books walking into the bar making demands with a gun in his belt and showing it (probably not the first time) is as good as taking it out and pointing it - although that part of the story is somewhat unclear as to whether they new he was carrying or not

what sort of place would Thailand be if every falang or wannabe falang thug was walking around with a gun hanging out of their waist band - I for one would not be living here

In saying that - the bar manager should have called the police and let them deal with it

They called the police many times and escorted him away

But he kept coming back

This is not the first time he made problems in the place he had many businesses on the island and was well known in the area

Looks like the this tried to cover it up but I don't think they were wrong I reckon they just had enough

If a Thai was to murder someone they would do 2 on a bike a professional hit

This was an argument whilst playing with drink, guns and probably more

Might be because of the gun laws in entertainment Venus

They might have been worried about the laws that say that you cannot have a firearm in any entertainment Venus more than the law about protecting their bar

Yes, a well known dubious character, with businesses on the island, so why do the headlines keep calling him a "Turkish tourist"?

Wouldn't suprise me if he was a tourist guide

Good cover for drug dealers

[davidstipek]

Wow!!!

Glad someone has not said a "Thai" Would not do this as they did in the killing of the young Lady and Young Man from the UK!!

Absolute Stupid comment from Police!

[davidstipek]

No explanation as to why the Turkish fella had the large amount of $$$ on him?

Drug dealer?

RAZZ

Maybe in this case he is a grub Razz, i know there are many bad farang here and if you live by he sword, you deserve to die by it... this place is a haven for bad farang trying to escape the law in their own country for doing wrong, thats why thailand and its Authorities are so f* ed up by the baht and the bribes, they let them in here, so they are to blame for doing this which doesnt make it right for us farang trying to make a living and do the right thing by the law of this land... what i am saying is this, it doesnt just happen to people who deserve it, it happens to normal, good farang as well, who buck the corrupt and racist, unjust system that is Thailands cancer and i never believe anything i read or hear unless it is undeniably proven without a doubt... because through experience, many thais will BS through their back teeth about anything because they dont know common ethical values that we do, from the person selling u a watch on the beach, to the BIB, to the Government, this is a proven fact, you read about it everyday, you live it everyday if you live here, this is the Thai way.

I LOVE Thailand and its people, the same as i love my kids if they lie to me, BUT it has to stop, society has to learn to respect and stop this hatred and scamming and racism against farang, when we are bringing home the bacon to them. Trust me, i have had guns ointed at me, when i am trying to do my job and help build a better place here, because some Thai loses face, i have been bashed because i use my intellect and not fists against stupidity, but because the said Thai, cant keep up with verbal communication, they come back with 4 mates and bash me....Thais are weak by themselves, or without a weapon, thats just who they are, i feel so sorry for them, but this is Thai life.

Sometimes i cannot understand how a society is so lost on moral values and cannot get how to treat their fellow human beings, i am beaten in trying to change it, I am leaving for good once i wrap things up, coz i want to live a happy life again without all the violence and lies, which is ONLY something you will experience if you live here, Peace out!

It would be nice if you broke your post up with a paragraphs! :-)

Samui is like any other holiday/party place.

Drifters and wrong 'uns congregate there to get cheap sex and make a few quid by pulling scams, selling drugs or whatever.

Same all around the world. Seems this fella just got a bit out of his depth. (Any more information on what he actually got up too there?)

Sorry, I don't think any Thai would "plant" 100k or 200k (forgot what amount?) on a dead man.

RAZZ

No..

Their wives would have taken it if they knew.... (Easier then distracting shop owner to get money out of drawer and stuff in blouse,,,,)

[Dogmatix]

The story about planting one if the killers' .38 on the victim makes little sense. They claimed he already had his own 9mm pistol visible in his waistband, so why would he use someone else's gun to shoot himself in the stomach and then blow his own head off with a shotgun.

[Tomtomtom69]

No explanation as to why the Turkish fella had the large amount of $$$ on him?

Drug dealer?

RAZZ

Maybe in this case he is a grub Razz, i know there are many bad farang here and if you live by he sword, you deserve to die by it... this place is a haven for bad farang trying to escape the law in their own country for doing wrong, thats why thailand and its Authorities are so f* ed up by the baht and the bribes, they let them in here, so they are to blame for doing this which doesnt make it right for us farang trying to make a living and do the right thing by the law of this land... what i am saying is this, it doesnt just happen to people who deserve it, it happens to normal, good farang as well, who buck the corrupt and racist, unjust system that is Thailands cancer and i never believe anything i read or hear unless it is undeniably proven without a doubt... because through experience, many thais will BS through their back teeth about anything because they dont know common ethical values that we do, from the person selling u a watch on the beach, to the BIB, to the Government, this is a proven fact, you read about it everyday, you live it everyday if you live here, this is the Thai way.

I LOVE Thailand and its people, the same as i love my kids if they lie to me, BUT it has to stop, society has to learn to respect and stop this hatred and scamming and racism against farang, when we are bringing home the bacon to them. Trust me, i have had guns ointed at me, when i am trying to do my job and help build a better place here, because some Thai loses face, i have been bashed because i use my intellect and not fists against stupidity, but because the said Thai, cant keep up with verbal communication, they come back with 4 mates and bash me....Thais are weak by themselves, or without a weapon, thats just who they are, i feel so sorry for them, but this is Thai life.

Sometimes i cannot understand how a society is so lost on moral values and cannot get how to treat their fellow human beings, i am beaten in trying to change it, I am leaving for good once i wrap things up, coz i want to live a happy life again without all the violence and lies, which is ONLY something you will experience if you live here, Peace out!

I hear you my friend, but what did you do to get Thais to bash you? I have never ever even been close to being in a situation where Thais have tried to bash me. I sometimes feel a little intimidated or inferior as a minority walking inside a Thai supermarket feeling like I'm getting stared at (I don't get stared at, but it's just a strange feeling I have, away from the tourist areas because I just feel so "visible") but that's about the worst I've ever experienced and probably more of my own making than a reality.