davedudek Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Hi all, 23 trips in 16 years, only time I got done over in Thailand was when I flew to Angeles City, Philippines. When I first came here, the sex tourist was the victim of scams years ago. Tuk tuk, gem scams, fake ID, police entrapment with icing sugar, the list is endless. It seems that the sex tourists have got wiser and gone to better parts of Thailand, than Nana and Pattaya!!! Some have never come back to LOS. I just got back to England last week, I am catching up with this Bangkok Airport program on BBC 3. I have watched 2 episodes and it is nothing more than another negative view on our second home. Backpackers, crying to get out of the place after being robbed. I have got this vision after hearing and witnessing a few incidents in Thailand again, but this last year. Its backpackers..!!! I have got this stigma that bar owners are praying on the 7-11 cheap charlies ( backpackers) by offering them free taxi rides to cheap bars in Bangkok or maybe cheaper hotels. THEN. Old trick in book strikes again, 50 baht for a drink then 500 a drink after or a knife pulled on them to get out. I am thinking they are preying on backpackers knowing they aren't coming back. unlike our big fat guy looking for love, here 3 times a year. After the murders in the Islands last year. I have developed this idea, to get a Facebook campaign to get 100,000 votes in UK and Europe to get it to Parliament. An idea to create a lecture to every university in the Uk and EU countries ( and if successful global) a seminar on backpacking in Asia. Covering the pitfalls of of everything that is happening now. I feel sorry for female backpackers that travel alone and maybe target and naive by the paradise they have been told about, that is simply not anymore. I was thinking a dedicated set of people that travelling round the higher education establishments at least once a year to run a seminar on backpacking. Its all fine telling them about the beaches, flight of the gibbon, hill tribes, Laos etc. But a dedicated seminar that will make first time travellers aware of the things to avoid in Thailand and neighbouring countries. It may put people off, but if you educate, then they will still go, but will be more clued up and less chance of incidents. Dave Any thoughts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted February 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2015 Any thoughts Either lay off the drugs for a while or take more of whatever it is that keeps you normal. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRRR Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Noble sentemint but unlikely to fly but good luck with it, unfortunatly humans being what they are and the younger seems even more bravado they will fall into traps. I have only ever been scamed once and that was in BKK after a very stressful morning in Tokyo couped with a delayed flight followed by and extra 90 min or so added to the flight to avoid bad weather arriving later than expeted i decided to stay down town rather than return to my apartment, if i had of stayed in Asoke were i normal would have rather than Nana i would have avoided the many low lifes that are attraced to that area, cost me $AU200 and i think i got out of it cheap. Ive traveled all over Asia and i lived in Thailand for one year in 2012 apart from that one time ive never had any problems but then again im mature and i spend very little time in redlight areas, dont befriend people in bars or strike up conversations with strangers on the streets nor do i allow it if someone aproaches me. Plenty of warnings in guide books as well as on the net, really its buyer beware, if yout not smart enough to educate yourself if you think your bullet proof good luck to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomSand Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Yes all students should be told "Wake-up! you're living in a nanny state and you'll get the shock of life when you go overseas." Edited February 23, 2015 by RandomSand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Basically the Op is requiring that the tax payer in nanny state UK fork out money to advise young people about the fact that abroad is different. When I was younger I did extensive research before going any where, which those days meant buying a book. Anyone that doesn't do the research isn't going to attend a seminar, is he? Unless you want to make it an obligation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybgood Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I blame the parents. How else can gap year students afford to travel here? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightlychilled Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 University lectures, seminars ??? whatever next. How about offering a degree in the subject to keep pace wth the lowering of educational standards ? Normal research on any destinations will throw up common pitfalls / scams / dangers ad infinitum. Anyone who is incapable of sufficiently informing themselves through basic research of the reams of information available should perhaps not be travelling at all. Stay at home. I think seminars in acceptable social behaviour, language and maturity would be far more appropriate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The number of tourists compared to the number of tourists who end up in strife is minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I blame the parents. How else can gap year students afford to travel here? Work and save. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slightlychilled Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) I blame the parents. How else can gap year students afford to travel here? Don't forget to blame the airlines as well with their constantly falling fare prices. There was a time when the airfares alone provided a form of "natural selection". Edited February 23, 2015 by slightlychilled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazygourmet Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Why I hate backpackers: an illustrated guide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtycash Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 sounds like a back street bar pattaya addict to me, been here 23 trips in 16 years blah blah blah, yea you are the man ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickets Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Scare the would be tourists away before coming......yeah good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adammike Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I told a mate in the strongest possible terms about gem scams being told the temple closed today gambling scams etc and there are no FREE tuk tuks. the first offer he could not resist there is no helping some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidst01 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 dont stop taking your medication OP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKK Beat Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I blame the parents. How else can gap year students afford to travel here? Work and save. How old fashioned, having to work to earn some coin! Duh ... some teenagers these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKK Beat Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 dont stop taking your medication OP I must admit, I found the first post confusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The OP has a great idea. Why do those who are unable to grasp it, comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Possibly the op,has never heard of Lonely planet guide books,that tend to outline the scams/dangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 So think scamming backpackers is somehow a new phenomenon? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Why I hate backpackers: an illustrated guide I think I prefer backpackers to expats. At least they enjoy the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Off-topic post and reply removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaipod Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 You think Pattaya and Nanas bad. Try Patpong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 You think Thailand is rough on the backpackers........Australia's Ivan Milat made Thai scams look like a walk in the park . ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stat088 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 You think Thailand is rough on the backpackers........Australia's Ivan Milat made Thai scams look like a walk in the park . [emoji33] The mention of that name sends shivers down my spine. I hitchhiked from Sydney to Canberrra in 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 You think Thailand is rough on the backpackers........Australia's Ivan Milat made Thai scams look like a walk in the park . ? I see your Ivan Milat, and raise you a Charles Sobhraj. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted February 24, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2015 Back packers have the balls to do stuff, they take a look at stuff, explore. When I was a kid a trip to the local sea side was a huge expense, times have changed, big time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 sounds like a back street bar pattaya addict to me, been here 23 trips in 16 years blah blah blah, yea you are the man ..... Now then, there are a lot of temples to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 23 trips in 16 years.... who do you think you are Alan Whicker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissie Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 In this corner of the world, a "Backpacker" is easily identified as "easy prey". Lightening the wallet of a backpacker of 100 $ will cause no police activities whatsoever. Not so, if some thugs tackle a resident of the Hilton (and possibly a Thai-Elite-Card-Member), this would likely be followed by police-involvement. The thugs math goes like this: Plundering backpackers, 10 per month, nets 1000 $ without any police involvement. = No risk ! Plundering 1 Hilton High-Roller per month may net a little more (Cash, Rolex,etc), but with police-involvement. = High risk ! Other than that: Wrong place at the wrong time. AND: Do you see any backpackers and hitch-hikers along European Highways anymore? Hardly. Too risky. The 60ties are gone. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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