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I've heard of "shoot the breeze", now it's "shoot the haze" thumbsup.gif

shoot the farmers starting the blaze would be better and the air force gets some strafing practice as well

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The news in the OP is not exactly how it was presented on Thai language TV news. According to my wife, the TV news report said that there are a number of wild fires burning in the Mae Hia district of Chiang Mai and in the adjacent Doi Suthep National Park. That is causing much increased smoke smog in Chiang Mai city today. The plane is being sent on a fire-fighting mission to try to contain the fires and prevent them from spreading further because the fires are in fairly remote areas which are inaccessible to conventional fire fighting vehicles. The authorities know it is only 1 plane - and can't do very much - but at least it's slightly better than doing nothing at all - and they want to show that they are actually trying to do something.

doublephil as you have probably noticed accurate facts and figures and knowledge of the subject are not really important to most posters on here.

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What do you think would happen if nobody burned the forests for say 5 or 6 years and then they caught on fire. You'd have a hell of a lot more then smoke to worry about. Ask those tree hungers in California what happens when all that accumulated fuel gets going.

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Yes I know. They say "ignorance is bliss" - so you would expect there to be a lot of very happy people around on here - but there aren't - they're nearly all moaning and complaining about something or other

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This is not "haze." Haze is a natural phenomenon. This is particulate smoke. "Haze" is a Malaysian piece of doublespeak, apparently in use in Thailand now as well.

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How is this dc3 unloading the water?

In the US and Canada they have special planes dealing with forest fires, an every year occurrence I believe.

Since this happens also every year here they should buy a couple of those planes instead of stupid things like the air craft carrier mentioned.

Then some specialist training from above countries how to do it. Oh, hold on a minute, Thais knows best, so that is not gonna happen.

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What do you think would happen if nobody burned the forests for say 5 or 6 years and then they caught on fire. You'd have a hell of a lot more then smoke to worry about. Ask those tree hungers in California what happens when all that accumulated fuel gets going.

"Tree huggers" are not against forest fires, which nature produces by itself. They are against uncontained logging. How about the stupid TV show on History that glorifies the superfluous felling of trees. They even show a CGI effect of entire forest falling at once! Ooh, my heroes.

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.........Its all from Myanmar, them tribe people lilting the forest up like its the fourth of July! Digging up them Mushrooms, then chasing

all the singed wild pigs...........This could mean war folks! Getting all them Chiang Mai clads excited over planes dropping water!

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Wow, like one whole plane?

i think it was this ms-rc-model-airplane.jpg BT-67 plane

This I think is a Spitfire? I they need something to cope with the fire not cause it. A Wellington perhaps?coffee1.gif

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And while you are at it, send in lots of helicopters to arrest the bloody farmers who set all these fires.

The police is not doing anything about it .

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How is this dc3 unloading the water?

In the US and Canada they have special planes dealing with forest fires, an every year occurrence I believe.

Since this happens also every year here they should buy a couple of those planes instead of stupid things like the air craft carrier mentioned.

Then some specialist training from above countries how to do it. Oh, hold on a minute, Thais knows best, so that is not gonna happen.

Well now - and this is Fact (sic).

Only 4 planes per day cos it takes a hell of a long time to load and open those 3000 bottles!

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There are no real forest or wild fires it's all men made and nothing is easier than to handle men if you want and that's the sole reason why they will fail year after year

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after a harvest, no plowing, slash & burn & replant, that is one of the reasons china air quality so poor. soot goes up and travels around with the wind, one dumb a** plane spraying water just makes mud. different harvest times mean different s/b soot times, seems like the stench never goes away.
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What do you think would happen if nobody burned the forests for say 5 or 6 years and then they caught on fire. You'd have a hell of a lot more then smoke to worry about. Ask those tree hungers in California what happens when all that accumulated fuel gets going.

This ain't California. Tropical rain forest with little undergrowth. come the rainy season, leaf litter rots into soil. Pine trees (resin) only grow at higher altitudes.

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The jet fumes coming out of the plane will only make things worse!

You don't get jet fumes from a prop plane..... Duh!

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At least a million square kilometers of SE Asia spotted with tens of thousands of small fires and wind carrying the smoke wherever it may.

And a single DC3 dropping 12000 liters a day. Sounds like the setup for a Disney movie where of course the DC3 is successful in the end, because he believed in himself.

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Dry season, burn off the rice field before rainy season.

Dry season, now the time to burn off vegetation you have slashed during the year.

Dry season, light up now now, rain will not put out fire,

Everybody light up now!

Wonderful sight to see, so much smoke and so many fires.

We are truly masters of the land.

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And if they use misters along the bridges of the river again too - problem solved.

Gets a bit boring, standing there all day whistling.gif

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There are times I read a headline like this and just stare at the screen for a minute in total disbelief.

It is just really discouraging in 2015 to see anyone who would believe that the cure to massive air pollution is spraying 3,000 liters of water form a plane, and not 3,000 liters on the *%$@+*&^^%# FIRE causing it.

Simply jaw dropping form of stupidity.

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For the fuel and operating costs of the aircraft, they could have sent multiple police patrols into the forest to arrest a few fire starters and get the message out. But.... That would be addressing the root cause and it is more fun to drop water over Chiang Mai. The habits here will never change.

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The news in the OP is not exactly how it was presented on Thai language TV news. According to my wife, the TV news report said that there are a number of wild fires burning in the Mae Hia district of Chiang Mai and in the adjacent Doi Suthep National Park. That is causing much increased smoke smog in Chiang Mai city today. The plane is being sent on a fire-fighting mission to try to contain the fires and prevent them from spreading further because the fires are in fairly remote areas which are inaccessible to conventional fire fighting vehicles. The authorities know it is only 1 plane - and can't do very much - but at least it's slightly better than doing nothing at all - and they want to show that they are actually trying to do something.

Thanks for the positive post in a sea of negativity. As some of us are aware this is a developing nation without access to a 100 water bombing aircraft.

Even in well equipped countries fighting bush fires is a great challenge.

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