sir charles IV Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 NEWSFLASH-the photographer was charged for possession of 20000 yabba pills soon after chief of police discovered selfie photos of the photographer with the chief's wife at a nightclub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawati Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 this is a difficult subject, the rule being "doing work is illegal if you don't have a work permit", whether paid or not, it is illegal. We try to get students as interns and we have each years tremendous difficulties. now consider this: 1. an executive from an overseas organisation comes to Thailand on holiday and he visits his office in Bangkok and sits in a board meeting. He did not ask for a business visa and did not ask a work permit. He is not paid in Thailand, can he work? 2. A group of tourists visits Thailand from Holland, they have their own tour guide from Holland, they are all travelling together on the tour with a visa on arrival. The tour guide can or not guide them through Ayuthaya and explain the history? 3. A couple get's married and decides to have a Thai wedding as a ceremony, they have a friend photographer and he goes with them on the beach and takes their picture, they are all foreigners. Can the friend take the pictures? In each case, he is working illegally and subject to the law with all the dire consequences. I have seen a top executive from a large French group being taken from a board meeting, to immigration, charges and deported at his own expenses. Is this all really fair or even logical? difficult. If we get a business visitor from overseas, we spent days getting him/her a WP that is valid only for a few days, this is the only way to guarantee you are legal... the procedure exists and is a real pain oz 4) a Thai wedding both married couples are Thai the photographer is a Thai friend. Is he working illegal? Would he be questioned by police? No xenofobia in that case...No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) @Sir Charles Forget being a comic, best stick to the day job. Edited March 13, 2015 by KarenBravo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir charles IV Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 @Sir Charles Forget being a comic, best stick to the day job. bravo Karen. Did you know my mate since he married his thai gf is getting laid almost every night?..................,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,.............................almost on Monday ......almost on Tuesday .......almost on Wednesday......almost on Thursday .....almost on Friday......almost on Saturday .......oh wait and almost on Sunday!!!Well? Will I make it as a comic? Be honest now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Well......that was slightly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Off topic post/image - removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerpilly Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I bet he has been ratted. I very often go the beach in Bang Tao and I have never seen any police on the beach. They went there because they knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 ...but I guess it's okay for 'legal photographers' to charge you an arm and a leg....for comparable services.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Who would like to bet there is now a Thai agency specialising in wedding photos for Chinese in Phuket, employing Chinese photographers (don't worry about WP, - no pobpem) but all financial transactions must be handled through the Thai agent, who happens to have a close relationship with local police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewgoo Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Why not just make an agreement with your clients to say no pay, he's just a friend? Understandably these Chinese tourists are using this man's services because they feel comfortable with cultural and language issues that Thai photographers can't provide satisfactorily. It's their wedding after all - who wants bitter memories and hassles in that?! It is a difficult one and admittedly and ultimately, this man is (by definition of Thai law) is working illegally. At the end of the day. a little more tea money was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 What about the American photographer that is documenting theaters in Thailand, or what about foreign tour operators in Thailand on fam trips making photos of Thai attractions? They are working illegally without work permits or proper work visas but are selectively ignored. How about the recent TV series on the airport too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beng Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 What if the person taking photo is just a family member and is not a professional? Is this illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestBitterPhuket Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I am assuming in this case the photographer is supposedly living and working in Phuket and didn't just come over with the wedding party. Can anyone tell me what the situation is for freelance photographers, lets say you do travel photography and you want to do a piece on Phuket for a magazine. You are not a Thai national. Can you come over for the assignment and do you get a work permit? I am a professional photographer specializing in aerial photography and I have a work permit for it, the Chinese tend to bring their own photographers with them from China. My problem is with photographers living here on tourist visas and working without a work permit, it is seriously affecting my business. ...and you are fluent in Chinese and understand the way the chinese like their photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindside Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 “or standing in the middle of the road without concern for traffic or drivers Got to agree with this one... Came around the corner at BIS last weekend. Bride and groom in the road getting an angle on the trees I think. I was checking traffic from the main drag, so got a bit closer than I would have normally (not dangerously close), got major "stink-eye" from the bride and photographer! (Same nationality as this story) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 The old taking jobs from Thais just doesn't do it for me as we know, they will employ Burmese on the cheap in the blink of an eye. May be not as Wedding Photogs but you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboctok Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 As I remember work permits can be issued to a specific place, so this makes professional photographing for foreigners virtually impossible. Just remember the dive instructors getting in trouble because their work permit specified their office as place of work, not the sea. I know I know, we are breaking the rules with every breath we take here, it's just not enforced until we don't step on someone's toes. All points of dissatisfaction regarding issues such as these fall within the scope of Dino's Law. If you don't like it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 We are all illegal photographers BS.You get paid 10k baht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I am assuming in this case the photographer is supposedly living and working in Phuket and didn't just come over with the wedding party. Can anyone tell me what the situation is for freelance photographers, lets say you do travel photography and you want to do a piece on Phuket for a magazine. You are not a Thai national. Can you come over for the assignment and do you get a work permit? Your working bud,WP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Im sure there are so many unemployed fluent (in one or both Chinese languages) Thai wedding photographers on Phuket that are now so grateful they can feed their families once again. I'm even more sure that the couples want language problems, over charging and poor quality photos on their special day. Its all just such a WIN yipeee! When in fact if you cant speak the language you cant do the job properly. 'Thailand' still acting like a 6 yr old who sees another with a toy they want to play with. What are you on about.Can Chinese or Thai pro wedding photographers waltz into any western country you care to name,and work?How much Mandarin do you need to say stand here,stand there.The Chinese m.o. is to keep as much money for China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 this is a difficult subject, the rule being "doing work is illegal if you don't have a work permit", whether paid or not, it is illegal. We try to get students as interns and we have each years tremendous difficulties. now consider this: 1. an executive from an overseas organisation comes to Thailand on holiday and he visits his office in Bangkok and sits in a board meeting. He did not ask for a business visa and did not ask a work permit. He is not paid in Thailand, can he work? 2. A group of tourists visits Thailand from Holland, they have their own tour guide from Holland, they are all travelling together on the tour with a visa on arrival. The tour guide can or not guide them through Ayuthaya and explain the history? 3. A couple get's married and decides to have a Thai wedding as a ceremony, they have a friend photographer and he goes with them on the beach and takes their picture, they are all foreigners. Can the friend take the pictures? In each case, he is working illegally and subject to the law with all the dire consequences. I have seen a top executive from a large French group being taken from a board meeting, to immigration, charges and deported at his own expenses. Is this all really fair or even logical? difficult. If we get a business visitor from overseas, we spent days getting him/her a WP that is valid only for a few days, this is the only way to guarantee you are legal... the procedure exists and is a real pain oz You don't get it oz,you do it the Thai way,not your way.If you don't like it you know what you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 taking care of the competition ... with stupid laws, where even a professional photographer or other profession would need 4 USELESS thais standing, texting, sleeping around, for a job that can be done by one person so why he does not just say he is a tourist or a friend of the couple, also illegal to take pictures for free of your friends ? when I go to the toilet, can I wipe my ass, or do i need a thai/burmese for that also ? No to the above,but we can get somebody to give you a h...j.. as you must be getting tired,must be Thai if you are paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 This is purely potectionisum of an industry not capable of performing their professional ability to take pictures at a reasonable price for the consumer. If the Local photographers promote their service with pricing (no negotiating price) then it will be an open market. What transpires between clients and photographers is not of the Thai Government business. If he (photographer) has no office, no advertisements or other means of commercialization his business, then he is not working in Country. If arrangement were made outside of Thailand, what they do is none of Thailand concern. This protectionism is going to far! When are you people gunna understand.In your scenario,he is being paid to work in Thailand,so therefore it is the govt.concern.He is taking a job from a Thai,get it!!!!Now what do you think would happen if these laws didn't excist.chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Paul Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Principles of law, subsequent regulations and enforcement are necessary for a civili society. But when they are misapplied or worse used as a generator of revenue for their own sake, they can be very damaging to to the society they are trying to protect. The cigarette swat teams on Sukhumvit, with their walkie talkies and hiding behind bushes to ambush tourists who can't find a bin to dispose of their cigarette butts are such an example. The Piss Police, stalking pedestrians are another. One doesn't have to be pro littering or pro drug use to see that something is out of whack here. Thailand is presently spending large amounts of money on advertising campaigns holding itself out as land of wonderful people that are fun loving, spiritually advanced, generous and friendly. It's a a campaign that will be wasted if visitors come here only to discover a mean spirited quagmire of voracious, greedy bureaucrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I am assuming in this case the photographer is supposedly living and working in Phuket and didn't just come over with the wedding party. Can anyone tell me what the situation is for freelance photographers, lets say you do travel photography and you want to do a piece on Phuket for a magazine. You are not a Thai national. Can you come over for the assignment and do you get a work permit? I am a professional photographer specializing in aerial photography and I have a work permit for it, the Chinese tend to bring their own photographers with them from China. My problem is with photographers living here on tourist visas and working without a work permit, it is seriously affecting my business. I would be surprised tourists could compete with you philthebook and I certainly wish you every success. If someone is living here on a tourist visa and they want to compete with you they should (in my opinion) get the right visa and then get a work permit. This is not what I am interested in knowing however, I want to know about the genuine travel photographer / writer, lets say from Europe who does freelance articles. He is not tied to an organisation he just takes photos and writes articles he hopes to sell. Can he do this in Thailand or must he go elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I am assuming in this case the photographer is supposedly living and working in Phuket and didn't just come over with the wedding party. Can anyone tell me what the situation is for freelance photographers, lets say you do travel photography and you want to do a piece on Phuket for a magazine. You are not a Thai national. Can you come over for the assignment and do you get a work permit? You would have to get a workpermit via the magazine. So working freelance it is near impossible to do this legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 3/13/2015 at 8:44 AM, arrowsdawdle said: What about the American photographer that is documenting theaters in Thailand, or what about foreign tour operators in Thailand on fam trips making photos of Thai attractions? They are working illegally without work permits or proper work visas but are selectively ignored. If their Thai Nationals why would they need a work permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Percy P said: If their Thai Nationals why would they need a work permit. Why are you quoting an 4 year old post? Anyway- the post clearly stated AMERICAN and FOREIGN TOUR OPERATORS. No mention of Thai Nationals whatsoever. Back on track the Chinese/Korean photographers are in Kamala on a daily basis and the cops don't seem to see them either on the main street or right in front of the Monkey House. 'Funny' that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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