Cycling licence considered as long-term measure: Bangkok Administration

gandalf12 · May 12, 2015

This will stop a car or motor bike running into you? Must be a great form of license

maidee · May 12, 2015

and maybe a special buddah amulet for protection ?????????????

only in thailand, right

were cyclists killed by other cyclist or RECKLESS DRIVERS ?

blame the cyclists...

if they used their CAR that day, they would not have been dead

right ?

Godders · May 12, 2015

The explanation is simple. None of theses idiots own or ride bicycles. They all drive cars or pickups. And as we all know, in the pecking order of road users,based on vehicle size and brute force, cyclists come way last, behind buses, lorries, trucks, cars and motorcyclists.

Pedestrians? We're about as important as those thousands of splattered snakes, wiped out dogs and cats and flattened rats.

Godders · May 12, 2015

How about licences for people who run public authorities? Most of them couldn't organise a p-ss-up in a brewery.

Ace of Pop · May 12, 2015

An accident

Mudlover · May 12, 2015

Whoever came up with this needs to get transferred to an inactive post immediately. Reminds me of wristbands for tourists to prevent them being murdered.

Edited May 12, 2015 by Mudlover

smedly · May 12, 2015

The error in their thinking is very simple, this issue is not about cyclists, it is about the general state of road safety in Thailand and the lack of effort from police and authorities to enforce road traffic laws 24hrs a day 365 days a year, as usual they are trying to blame everything else and everyone else and missing the most obvious and simple to see.

There are road traffic accidents everywhere in the world but not on a scale we see in Thailand, a drunk driver kills 3 cyclists and the Thai solution is - ban cyclists or give cyclists a licence, ultimately the reason why there is little effort to deal with the real problem is because the people making these ridiculous statements are all drinking and driving and want to continue

smedly · May 12, 2015

They must have forgot their licence

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/824610-inquest-reveals-details-of-brits-killed-in-samui-horror-crash/

Pair of best friends die after car ploughs into them in horrific Thailand holiday crash
By Katie Storey

Derek Gent and Mike Holmes were on holiday with their wives Christine and Janet when the crash took place

MANCHESTER: -- Derek Gent, of Croft Head Drive, Milnrow, and Mike Holmes, of Yeomans Close, Milnrow, both 68, who were killed when they were hit by a truck in Koh Samui, Thailand on March 23, 2013

Sviss Geez · May 12, 2015

Agreed.

However, there is a large difference between the word "cyclists" and those merely riding a bicycle. Why? IMHO, because 'cyclists' as a group, tend to be more organized, traffic aware, disciplined in road rules etc. Most cycling clubs here and in other countries wear head protection and normally have reflective clothing.

The politicians need to realize that most accidents are caused by motorists not exercising enough caution when approaching cyclists and motorcyclists.

The cyclists need to obey the law re traffic movement as much as motorists. Many cyclists merely ride through a red light.

They need to enforce the existing laws re helmets, licenses, under-age drivers, and overloaded motorcycles, with 3 or more.

"However, there is a large difference between the word "cyclists" and those merely riding a bicycle. Why? IMHO, because 'cyclists' as a group, tend to be more organized, traffic aware, disciplined in road rules etc. Most cycling clubs here and in other countries wear head protection and normally have reflective clothing."

Yet these are the groups that are always involved in the reported accidents, never the lone casual cyclist. The head protection doesn't seem to be that based on the last couple of accidents. Maybe a lot of the blame actually rests with these cyclists.

Sviss Geez · May 12, 2015

Agreed.

However, there is a large difference between the word "cyclists" and those merely riding a bicycle. Why? IMHO, because 'cyclists' as a group, tend to be more organized, traffic aware, disciplined in road rules etc. Most cycling clubs here and in other countries wear head protection and normally have reflective clothing.

The politicians need to realize that most accidents are caused by motorists not exercising enough caution when approaching cyclists and motorcyclists.

The cyclists need to obey the law re traffic movement as much as motorists. Many cyclists merely ride through a red light.

They need to enforce the existing laws re helmets, licenses, under-age drivers, and overloaded motorcycles, with 3 or more.

"However, there is a large difference between the word "cyclists" and those merely riding a bicycle. Why? IMHO, because 'cyclists' as a group, tend to be more organized, traffic aware, disciplined in road rules etc. Most cycling clubs here and in other countries wear head protection and normally have reflective clothing."

Yet these are the groups that are always involved in the reported accidents, never the lone casual cyclist. The head protection doesn't seem to be that based on the last couple of accidents. Maybe a lot of the blame actually rests with these cyclists.

balo · May 12, 2015

Crazy idea , if they want to avoid bicycle accidents just ban all bicycles from riding on highways and the bigger roads.

Then they can continue counting dead bodies from fatal motobike accidents instead, that is something they are used to .

Davyro · May 12, 2015

Licence can be renewed at 7-11? Will there be a test ??

Edited May 12, 2015 by Davyro

arthurwait · May 12, 2015

It's not a surprising suggestion, from a nation that's never been taught to accept responsibility or blame.

arthurwait · May 12, 2015

The less bicycles that are on the road the safer it is for every one...

Banning all bicycles from the road would protect the cycle nuts from

themselves.

Padded shorts do that.

berybert · May 12, 2015

Got to love it "Young man you are 12 years old and too young for a bicycle license" "Now jump on your motocy and off you go"

Thai at Heart · May 12, 2015

Thailand once again proves that just because you sit behind a desk and have lots of people, 'wai' you, it is no proof that you have an iq barely higher than an amoeba.

berybert · May 12, 2015

Agreed.

However, there is a large difference between the word "cyclists" and those merely riding a bicycle. Why? IMHO, because 'cyclists' as a group, tend to be more organized, traffic aware, disciplined in road rules etc. Most cycling clubs here and in other countries wear head protection and normally have reflective clothing.

The politicians need to realize that most accidents are caused by motorists not exercising enough caution when approaching cyclists and motorcyclists.

The cyclists need to obey the law re traffic movement as much as motorists. Many cyclists merely ride through a red light.

They need to enforce the existing laws re helmets, licenses, under-age drivers, and overloaded motorcycles, with 3 or more.

"However, there is a large difference between the word "cyclists" and those merely riding a bicycle. Why? IMHO, because 'cyclists' as a group, tend to be more organized, traffic aware, disciplined in road rules etc. Most cycling clubs here and in other countries wear head protection and normally have reflective clothing."

Yet these are the groups that are always involved in the reported accidents, never the lone casual cyclist. The head protection doesn't seem to be that based on the last couple of accidents. Maybe a lot of the blame actually rests with these cyclists.

You are aware a lot of the cyclists being killed are also Thai ? Not everyone of them are your dreaded farang.

ICECOOL · May 12, 2015

Simple economics..less cyclists and in lycra easy to spot. BIB will find them easier to catch also..brilliant and cunning plan Max !!

Lee4Life · May 12, 2015

Maybe better enforcement of existing laws would be a much better use of resources than trying to create new laws for the same officers to enforce. Even if the licenses were in order to provide funds for safe bike lanes, the cost of enforcement would probably outweigh the amount collected.

Edited May 12, 2015 by Lee4Life

GarryP · May 12, 2015

Thailand once again proves that just because you sit behind a desk and have lots of people, 'wai' you, it is no proof that you have an iq barely higher than an amoeba.

How dare you insult amoebas like that.

sunshine51 · May 12, 2015

I'm an MTB peddler and ride often and I do obey traffic rules.

However...most car & motorbike drivers don't.

The traffic laws here are OK I guess but they're never enforced

unless you're a farang & a traffic cop is low on play money...or

any cop for that matter.

This license scheme is the most asinine suggestion I have ever

heard of from any Thai "official" and I have heard plenty.

Asinine;

adjective
Extremely stupid or foolish.
Example..."Tridoa Apaiwong's asinine remark regarding bicycle licenses"
Synonyms: stupid, foolish, brainless, mindless, senseless, idiotic,

imbecilic, ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, nonsensical, fatuous, silly,

inane, witless, empty-headed.

gandalf12 · May 12, 2015

The less bicycles that are on the road the safer it is for every one...

Banning all bicycles from the road would protect the cycle nuts from

themselves.

Padded shorts do that.

Good point but ask yourself this question, how many cyclists have killed people and how many have motor bikes / cars killed in the same time?

Once you answer that you can see were the problem is.

Edited May 12, 2015 by gandalf12

WitawatWatawit · May 12, 2015

I'm an MTB peddler and ride often and I do obey traffic rules.

However...most car & motorbike drivers don't.

The traffic laws here are OK I guess but they're never enforced

unless you're a farang & a traffic cop is low on play money...or

any cop for that matter.

This license scheme is the most asinine suggestion I have ever

heard of from any Thai "official" and I have heard plenty.

Asinine;

adjective

Extremely stupid or foolish.

Example..."Tridoa Apaiwong's asinine remark regarding bicycle licenses"

Synonyms: stupid, foolish, brainless, mindless, senseless, idiotic,

imbecilic, ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, nonsensical, fatuous, silly,

inane, witless, empty-headed.

One ass in nine? You must have been up all night counting them! Did you include those still doing their apprenticeships?

JAG · May 12, 2015

What's next, all pedestrians to be licensed and fined if they walk outside permitted areas ?

These idiots have the temerity to claim they are running a major city !

Well that nest of Tessaban cops near Nana BTS station seem to exist to "fine" pedestrians, so it probably will end up like that!

DM07 · May 12, 2015

You really couldn't make this bullenscheisse up, even if you tried really, really hard!

How will having a "cycling license" change anything?

Having a driving license (that many got for a few hundred baht under the table) for a car or a motorcycle never even limits road- carnage...but a cycling license will do!

Cyclists -apart from pedestrians- are the weakest in traffic...make THEM responsible!

Not the ones, who are getting behind the wheel, often with no clue of what they are doing. no experience, no test, no license...let them speed, let them drive drunk...who gives two hot sh1ts about it?

But a dude on a bicycle...that's the one, you really want to hit hard (no pun intended!)!

Clowns, the lot of them!

elgordo38 · May 12, 2015

How in the ( ) is this going to prevent cyclists from being hit? Absurd.

Enforcing drunk driving laws, unsafe passing, and speeding should be considered.

Its Looney Tunes time again you circumvent the problem and apply a little stupidity sorry monetary cents. You get money from selling bike licenses and you also get tea money when we are herded over for not having a license. Its a win win situation for the government and loose loose for us bike riders. The obvious answer of stopping drunk driving is overlooked. What a joke.

daveAustin · May 12, 2015

As daft as this sounds, there is actually some logic here, I think. The authorities know how desperate and dangerous the roads are regards very bad drivers and are possibly wanting to make sure cyclists are more aware... and to put people off cycling

Edited May 12, 2015 by daveAustin

NCC1701A · May 12, 2015

Driver Who Killed Around The World Cyclist Fined 7,500 Baht:

http://www.stickboybangkok.com/news/driver-who-killed-around-the-world-cyclist-fined-7500-baht/

elgordo38 · May 12, 2015

This is a good idea...The roads are for motorized vehicles ..We need more taxes

fees and regulation of bicycles. Bicycles should be banned from the roads for their own safety.

Sure I think its fine that children ride bikes around the neighborhood. But most people

when they get older put the the bike away.

Who the H made you a the guardian of my rights. I am 77 and ride my bike every day and have for five years here. What a laugh most people when they get older put the bike away. Get real puppy we live longer today and are more fit. Go find another cause to champion we do not need you to be our Knight in Shinning Armour.

berybert · May 12, 2015

As daft as this sounds, there is actually some logic here, I think. The authorities know how desperate and dangerous the roads are regards very bad drivers and are possibly wanting to make sure cyclists are more aware... and to put people off cycling

Not having a driving license doesn't put off car drivers who don't have a license. Why do you think bike riders would worry about not having a bike license.

Anyway how does this work in the case of an accident. Say I am on my bike with my license in my pocket. A Thai in a car with no license, no insurance and drunk hits me. I show my license to the nice policeman who shows up, the drunk Thai is unable to stand up or talk. Who gets to pay for any damaged caused ?

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