Ex-FM Surapong vows to return passports to Thaksin if Pheu Thai is in next govt

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Ex-FM Surapong vows to return passports to Thaksin if Pheu Thai is in next government



BANGKOK: -- Former foreign minister and a key member of the Pheu Thai party Mr Surapong Tovichakchaikul vowed Wednesday that he would return passports to fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra if his party is in the next government.

The ex-foreign minister was responding to the Foreign Ministry’s decision to revoke Thaksin’s two passports effective as of May 25 citing the fugitive’s press interview last week in Seoul which was deemed a threat to national security and the prestige of the country as proposed by the security service.

The two passports revoked by the Foreign Ministry are passports No U957441 and Z530117.

Mr Surapong said he didn’t what was the legal basis used by the government to revoke Thaksin’s passports but he insisted that the fugitive did nothing wrong and had not done any damage to the government.

He questioned the Foreign Ministry’s judgment that Thaksin’s remarks affected national security and caused damage to the country’s prestige.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ex-fm-surapong-vows-to-return-passports-to-thaksin-if-pheu-thai-is-in-next-government


-- Thai PBS 2015-05-28

[NongKhaiKid]

Look K. T I'm still a loyal sycophant. Any chance of an increase in my allowance ?

[Chang_paarp]

That is a great way of ensuring that you and your party will have limited success in the next election.

[Seastallion]

If anyone wants to support the current FM's decision, and to counter this ill-conceived attempt to reassure rural redshirters, they should make a big deal out of the fact that Mr T holds passports of other nations.

I think it could be painted quite negatively in a way the yokels will understand.

[jaidam]

Confirming once and for all that under Pheu Thai there will be no law and order, applied fairly, across the board. Merely pick-and-choose justice, guilty if you doubt the Shin regime, innocent so long as you kneel down and give sweet buccal caress to the Shin elite. Quite sickening.

[Denim]

Phua Thai won't be leading the country again any time soon as the next ' election ' is likely to be pushed back repeatedly if the public referendum on the new constitution results in negative response. This is what the current government are playing for , continued leadership by default.

[NongKhaiKid]

That is a great way of ensuring that you and your party will have limited success in the next election.

We all know how Thai officialdom loves to talk but can't he see that crawling statements like this will just encourage the junta to keep them sidelined even more.

[jaidam]

Is it possible we missed a massive falling out in our favourite family? Looks like Thaksin is doing everything in his power to make sure his little sister/daughter gets sent down for many many years. It is wonderful to see the multi-headed Shin hydra writhing around in agony, and like other demented beasts, ultimately attacking itself. Bravo.

[ezzra]

There we go... it didn't last very long did it? someone already is throwing a monkey wrench

in cog's work... PM, over to you....

[MikeOboe57]

It comes as no surprise that members of the Shin clan are trying to whitewash one another. And it is quite revealing that Sir Gollum is still harbouring the wet dream of becoming FM again, because this is exactly what Thailand needs - an embarasssment as FM, Plodprasop, the propellerman, as minister for science and water, and last but not least Black Label Chalerm in charge of security, (non-)dealing with the insurgency in the South and revoking residence permits for "hi-parking".

[halloween]

There we go... it didn't last very long did it? someone already is throwing a monkey wrench

in cog's work... PM, over to you....

A pretty flimsy monkey wrench based on 2 assumptions - that PTP will get back into power and that Surapong will part of that government.

Now that Thaksin's passports are back in the news, someone might decide to ask Surapong why he issued passports to a fugitive criminal. I can think of a few charges related to that (abuse of office, aiding and abetting a fugitive), and he has now publicly stated he intends to repeat the offence.

[geriatrickid]

That is a great way of ensuring that you and your party will have limited success in the next election.

They would have to be allowed to run wouldn't they? It's looking like there will be a dissolution or banning of the PTP and its former MPs and Senators.

[rubl]

That is a great way of ensuring that you and your party will have limited success in the next election.

They would have to be allowed to run wouldn't they? It's looking like there will be a dissolution or banning of the PTP and its former MPs and Senators.

As long as we have "Thaksin is the de facto leader of the Redshirt movement and Pheu Thai Party" it shouldn't surprise that a party run by a criminal fugitive risks dissolution.

[geriatrickid]

It comes as no surprise that members of the Shin clan are trying to whitewash one another. And it is quite revealing that Sir Gollum is still harbouring the wet dream of becoming FM again, because this is exactly what Thailand needs - an embarasssment as FM, Plodprasop, the propellerman, as minister for science and water, and last but not least Black Label Chalerm in charge of security, (non-)dealing with the insurgency in the South and revoking residence permits for "hi-parking".

Question: In comparison to the circumstances you describe, none of which I am disagreeing with, how is the current administration less inept?

If anything, I'd offer that it is slightly worse.

Foreign Affairs: Alienated every developed world nation because of the coup and the position of a return to an elected government. Antagonized the USA. Annoyed China, Japan and South Korea because of inaction of air safety. Provoked the ire of progressive nations because of its behaviour in regard to the Rohingya. The previous admin never made errors like that.

Southern Insurgency: Has any progress been made? Seriousl, what's the difference between the activity/position between the current government, the Yingluck admin, the Abhsit admin and the previous military admin? It's always been a mess hasn't it?

[smedly]

Mr Surapong - a very vile divisive leech of the highest order, a fine example of why Thailand keeps going down the (deleted) when people and like him and his ilk are put in a position of power in Thailand

I thought he was told to keep his mouth shut

[geriatrickid]

As long as we have "Thaksin is the de facto leader of the Redshirt movement and Pheu Thai Party" it shouldn't surprise that a party run by a criminal fugitive risks dissolution.

You call him a criminal fugitive leader. Foreign Affairs officials in multiple responsible developed world countries classify him as the former PM of Thailand, deposed through an engineered military coup d'état.

The current Thai admin has its 12 very important, big hitter friends (Antigua and Barbuda, Burundi, Central African Republic, Comoros, Dominican Republic, Gabon, Ghana, Kiribati, Hungary, Nauru, Vanuatu, and Cameroon).

When the former PM was in power he was well received in the G-20. He laid the foundation for a free trade agreement with Canada and Australia. Both discussions are on hiatus now that the latter countries have banished Thailand to the political outhouse. The EU has condemned the current Thai admin, but had previously applauded the former PM's progress on moving towards social justice for the poor.

Beauty is n the eye of the beholder. It helps if one has good eyesight.

[halloween]

It comes as no surprise that members of the Shin clan are trying to whitewash one another. And it is quite revealing that Sir Gollum is still harbouring the wet dream of becoming FM again, because this is exactly what Thailand needs - an embarasssment as FM, Plodprasop, the propellerman, as minister for science and water, and last but not least Black Label Chalerm in charge of security, (non-)dealing with the insurgency in the South and revoking residence permits for "hi-parking".

Question: In comparison to the circumstances you describe, none of which I am disagreeing with, how is the current administration less inept?

If anything, I'd offer that it is slightly worse.

Foreign Affairs: Alienated every developed world nation because of the coup and the position of a return to an elected government. Antagonized the USA. Annoyed China, Japan and South Korea because of inaction of air safety. Provoked the ire of progressive nations because of its behaviour in regard to the Rohingya. The previous admin never made errors like that.

Southern Insurgency: Has any progress been made? Seriousl, what's the difference between the activity/position between the current government, the Yingluck admin, the Abhsit admin and the previous military admin? It's always been a mess hasn't it?

The previous admin never made errors like that. No, but they made plenty of their own, most of which were of far greater significance to the people of Thailand.

Which is the more important to your average Thai citizen, foreign or domestic affairs?

[halloween]

As long as we have "Thaksin is the de facto leader of the Redshirt movement and Pheu Thai Party" it shouldn't surprise that a party run by a criminal fugitive risks dissolution.

You call him a criminal fugitive leader. Foreign Affairs officials in multiple responsible developed world countries classify him as the former PM of Thailand, deposed through an engineered military coup d'état.

The current Thai admin has its 12 very important, big hitter friends (Antigua and Barbuda, Burundi, Central African Republic, Comoros, Dominican Republic, Gabon, Ghana, Kiribati, Hungary, Nauru, Vanuatu, and Cameroon).

When the former PM was in power he was well received in the G-20. He laid the foundation for a free trade agreement with Canada and Australia. Both discussions are on hiatus now that the latter countries have banished Thailand to the political outhouse. The EU has condemned the current Thai admin, but had previously applauded the former PM's progress on moving towards social justice for the poor.

Beauty is n the eye of the beholder. It helps if one has good eyesight.

Foreign Affairs officials in multiple responsible developed world countries classify him as the former PM of Thailand who resigned in the face of corruption charges, attempted to re-instate himself, was blocked by a coup, found guilty by a court, and is currently staying out of the country to avoid jail and further serious corruption charges.

You think other leaders don't know this?

[casualbiker]

As long as we have "Thaksin is the de facto leader of the Redshirt movement and Pheu Thai Party" it shouldn't surprise that a party run by a criminal fugitive risks dissolution.

You call him a criminal fugitive leader. Foreign Affairs officials in multiple responsible developed world countries classify him as the former PM of Thailand, deposed through an engineered military coup d'état.

The current Thai admin has its 12 very important, big hitter friends (Antigua and Barbuda, Burundi, Central African Republic, Comoros, Dominican Republic, Gabon, Ghana, Kiribati, Hungary, Nauru, Vanuatu, and Cameroon).

When the former PM was in power he was well received in the G-20. He laid the foundation for a free trade agreement with Canada and Australia. Both discussions are on hiatus now that the latter countries have banished Thailand to the political outhouse. The EU has condemned the current Thai admin, but had previously applauded the former PM's progress on moving towards social justice for the poor.

Beauty is n the eye of the beholder. It helps if one has good eyesight.

Gk. So everything was golden under Thaksin and his governments. Is that what you are saying?

And you really can't be "deposed" if you had already resigned from the post.. Can you?

As for the free trade deals according to the Australian government it's fine.

http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/tafta/Pages/thailand-australia-fta.aspx

And the Canadian one was under Yingluck and barely got out of the water.. It is currently on hold BUT Thailand is the biggest exporter to Canada from Asian countries!

[thhMan]

So Thailand has Hoopleheads too.... hmmmm

[Rob8891]

Ah, Little Alien. We've missed you and your silly outpourings.

Did you bring your friend Captain Earwax too?

It's like a perverted version of Laurel & Hardy.

[Vuji]

As long as we have "Thaksin is the de facto leader of the Redshirt movement and Pheu Thai Party" it shouldn't surprise that a party run by a criminal fugitive risks dissolution.

You call him a criminal fugitive leader. Foreign Affairs officials in multiple responsible developed world countries classify him as the former PM of Thailand, deposed through an engineered military coup d'état.

Do you have even a single quote amongst "multiple" where what you said they said, they actually said?

When the former PM was in power he was well received in the G-20.

News Flash! That was over a decade ago.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It helps if one has good eyesight.

It sure does.

Use that to read the OP where the disgraced bumpkin Surapong pronounces that he will repeat his 2011 abandonment of the Thai people during the crisis of a huge devastating flood, open up the closed Foreign Ministry and expend a great deal of government resources just to get his cousin a new passport.

He's a criminal.

He's a convicted criminal.

He's a convicted criminal fugitive.

And his cousin says screw the Thai people, I'm going to serve him.

[SOTIRIOS]

......;....you got a little something on your nose there buddy....'...

[stoli]

Those people that want to elevate themselves, while causing harm to your desires, are the last thing you need. Thaksin can not be happy to have the support of this blowhard.

[haroldc]

Dear Khun Surapong, please crawl back under your rock.

[Tatsujin]

Surapong Tovichakchaikul is the "cousin-in-law" of Thaksin, right? Which is why the passports were hand delivered to Thaksin personally under the previous Yingluck "Government".

I can see Pheu Thai and a lot of it's members and sycophants getting banned from politics very soon.

geriatrickid > Thaksin had the support and backing of the USA, and still does ... cos it made both Thaksin and the USA quite a lot of money whilst he was in power. And honestly, the mess this place is on, in large part because of Thaksin (massive corruption, the attitude that it's OK to take what you want cos you have been voted into office, you know the rest), none of that can be or will be changed overnight. Thaksin has had years (10+) to do something about the South, but also did nothing other than shooting 1,000's of people in his drug war. The ONLY thing he is interested in is "power" and "money" ... and he'll sacrifice anyone or anything to get it as he has shown over and over and over again.

And those glasses you mentioned GK ... they might need that rose-tinted covering taking off and being cleaned a little more often.

[MikeOboe57]

It comes as no surprise that members of the Shin clan are trying to whitewash one another. And it is quite revealing that Sir Gollum is still harbouring the wet dream of becoming FM again, because this is exactly what Thailand needs - an embarasssment as FM, Plodprasop, the propellerman, as minister for science and water, and last but not least Black Label Chalerm in charge of security, (non-)dealing with the insurgency in the South and revoking residence permits for "hi-parking".

Question: In comparison to the circumstances you describe, none of which I am disagreeing with, how is the current administration less inept?

If anything, I'd offer that it is slightly worse.

Foreign Affairs: Alienated every developed world nation because of the coup and the position of a return to an elected government. Antagonized the USA. Annoyed China, Japan and South Korea because of inaction of air safety. Provoked the ire of progressive nations because of its behaviour in regard to the Rohingya. The previous admin never made errors like that.

Southern Insurgency: Has any progress been made? Seriousl, what's the difference between the activity/position between the current government, the Yingluck admin, the Abhsit admin and the previous military admin? It's always been a mess hasn't it?

Oh come on, GK.

What can be "slightly worse" than an FM trying to repeatedly drag foreign diplomats into Thai domestic affairs and pestering them to take sides, what can be "slightly worse" than a science minister ordering the purchase of "water pushing machines" and trying to "push" the Chao Phraya River into the Ocean with 1000 boats while at the same time hundreds of Thais drowned in the floods?

And what can be "slightly worse" than Chalerm who steadfastly refused to visit the Southern Regions and, when finally being forced "at gunpoint", spent half an hour dozing through some briefing before he left again. The only remarkable event was his intoxicated "Saturday Night Fever" performance in a Malaysian hotel lobby while on a state visit. His performance was so abysmal even by Shin standards that, although he was young Thaksin´s mentor and helped him to money and power, he was finally demoted in the last of the numerous Yingluck cabinet reshuffles to the labour ministry.

Let us not forget that the Army did a fairly decent job in the Southern Provinces until PM Thaksin decided that the gloves would have to come off.

As you were apparently happy with the previous government you should now not hold the current PM to higher standards.

[quandow]

In a nation where "face" is SO important, why would anyone with two brain cells to rub together make such a stupid statement? This is such a ridiculous challenge; tipping one's hand in such a manner does NOBODY any good except for bored TV members to make posts about.

[geriatrickid]

Foreign Affairs officials in multiple responsible developed world countries classify him as the former PM of Thailand who resigned in the face of corruption charges, attempted to re-instate himself, was blocked by a coup, found guilty by a court, and is currently staying out of the country to avoid jail and further serious corruption charges.

You think other leaders don't know this?

Can we please be honest?

The outside world's view of SE Asia is that this is a corrupt, brutal region. More specifically, corruption is considered to be the norm, an endemic blight.

As such, corruption isn't a defining characteristic because they are all considered to be corrupt.

[sweatalot]

Phua Thai won't be leading the country again any time soon as the next ' election ' is likely to be pushed back repeatedly if the public referendum on the new constitution results in negative response. This is what the current government are playing for , continued leadership by default.

better than the shin gang back at the troughs