The 1932 revolt: No political activities to mark anniversary, Thai police chief warns

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THE 1932 REVOLT
No political activities to mark anniversary, police chief warns
THE NATION



BANGKOK: -- Police chief Pol General Somyot Poompanmuang warned against the holding of any political activities today - the 83rd anniversary of the revolt that ended absolute monarchy - and said, those defying the orders of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) would be prosecuted.

The ban on political gatherings of five or more people is still in effect.

Meanwhile, Provincial Police Region 4 has ordered officers to keep track of political movements in the provinces of Khon Kaen, Loei and Kalasin, to ensure there won't be any political activity marking the day today.

An order has also been given to monitor the Dao Din anti-coup group of students from Khon Kaen University who have been active in opposing the coup and are now in Loei province, challenging the NCPO.

Pol Colonel Supakorn Khamsingnork, the deputy director of Khon Kaen Provincial Police acting on behalf of the spokesperson of Provincial Police Region 4, said the Army and police were coordinating to handle any possible movements marking the day today.

Supakorn also said both the military and police were explaining to local people they should think of the June 24, 1932 revolt in a positive light and not use it as an excuse to demonstrate because it could disturb law and order.

In a related development, Pongkwan Sawasdipak and few other academics, including Somrit Luechai, symbolicallycleaned the "plaque of democracy" at the Royal Plaza ahead of the anniversary.

"We cannot deny that the 1932 incident was a stepping stone towards the development of democracy in this country," said political scientist from Thammasat University Pongkwan Sawasdipak.

"This is rather a symbolic move, demonstrating our support for those who believe in democracy," said Pongkwan.

She added there was a need for a more transparent and cleaner democracy.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/No-political-activities-to-mark-anniversary-police-30262994.html


-- The Nation 2015-06-24

[daoyai]

Some must see it as a "dark" day in history?

[Somtamnication]

Well, too much light and the cockroaches scatter everywhere!

[Bannum opinions]

There are several reasons for this fear coming from the anti-democrats.

The events of 1932 embarrasses and threatens them, for they are evidence of different views on politics. Much of the work of those fearful of Democracy currently and since 1957, has been about erasing the ideals of the original People's Party.

[Eric Loh]

He declared loudly and proudly that "Thai democracy will never die because I'm a soldier with a democratic heart". Yet on such a momentous occasion to mak the birth of democracy, he ban all celebration and activities.

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Activists gather to commemorate 1932 revolution
KASAMAKORN CHANWANPEN
THE NATION



BANGKOK: -- Political activists and poets Wednesday morning gathered at the Royal Plaza to commemorate the People's Party or Khana Ratsadon and the revolution which brought democracy to the country marking its 83rd anniversary.

The ceremony started at dawn at the same hour when the People's Party declared its first statement signifying it had staged a bloodless coup against King Rama VII. And the country, ever since, changed from the absolute monarchy to constitutional monarchy.

The activity started out with activists and political observers arranging flowers for adorning the Memorial Peg of Siamese Revolution of 1932 near King Rama V’s monument to pay tribute to the promoters of Siamese revolution for bringing democracy to the country

Subsequently, the poets who were the spearheads of the celebration read poems before the peg as well as the King Rama V monument, saluting the revolution, democracy, and liberty.

Among the participants were prominent political activists like Phra Maha Praiwan, Sirawit New Serithiwat, and Champ who were arrested last year for reading George Orwell's 1984.

The activity went on peacefully, although about 15 policemen were nearby observing the the activity.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Activists-gather-to-commemorate-1932-revolution-30263012.html


-- The Nation 2015-06-24

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[bamnutsak]

Are they going to throw a bag over this thing?

Democracy Monument

Maybe just sell it on eBay, it really hasn't been used much.

I wonder if December 10 will still be a holiday?

Edited June 24, 2015 by bamnutsak

[maidee]

wow, this article is permitted to be printed / come out ?

in general people don't know what happend in 1932

and after that, is history

[Always18]

"Constitutional Monarchy"...................."Democracy"........................Thais really do love a grand sounding title to obscure the unpalatable truth of their situation.

[RustBucket]

which brought democracy to the country

Bwahahahahahahaha

[Time Traveller]

Arrest those academics. Cleaning a plaque is a threat to national security.

[ourmanflint]

anybody know where the plaque is exactly?

[baboon]

anybody know where the plaque is exactly?

In the bottom of a locked and dusty filing cabinet in a dark basement with 'KEEP OUT' stencilled on the padlocked door?

[rubl]

There are several reasons for this fear coming from the anti-democrats.

The events of 1932 embarrasses and threatens them, for they are evidence of different views on politics. Much of the work of those fearful of Democracy currently and since 1957, has been about erasing the ideals of the original People's Party.

What fear? People celebrating a coup by Colonels led by two Bangkok Amart?

[rubl]

anybody know where the plaque is exactly?

In the bottom of a locked and dusty filing cabinet in a dark basement with 'KEEP OUT' stencilled on the padlocked door?

On the 22nd of June, 2012 it was written

"Nearly 80 years on, the modest bronze plaque marking the spot where the June 24 revolt took place, set in concrete in the ground at the Royal Plaza - and exposed to automobile traffic - is considerably tarnished."

I guess it's still there.

[Jay Sata]

There is democracy and Thai democracy.

The two are not the same.

[waitforusalso]

Glad to see the General's orders emphatically ignored. Good luck to these brave students. Let many others join them.

[baboon]

There are several reasons for this fear coming from the anti-democrats.

The events of 1932 embarrasses and threatens them, for they are evidence of different views on politics. Much of the work of those fearful of Democracy currently and since 1957, has been about erasing the ideals of the original People's Party.

What fear? People celebrating a coup by Colonels led by two Bangkok Amart?

...Hellbent on overturning the status quo, not preserving it. The two can't be compared as you well know, but you simply have to attempt to muddy the waters, don't you? Edited June 24, 2015 by baboon

[Bannum opinions]

There is democracy and Thai democracy.

The two are not the same.

That is what the anti-democrats would self-servingly have you believe.

I am not as easily swayed.

[rubl]

There are several reasons for this fear coming from the anti-democrats.

The events of 1932 embarrasses and threatens them, for they are evidence of different views on politics. Much of the work of those fearful of Democracy currently and since 1957, has been about erasing the ideals of the original People's Party.

What fear? People celebrating a coup by Colonels led by two Bangkok Amart?

...Hellbent on overturning the status quo, not preserving it. The two can't be compared as you well know, but you simply have to attempt to muddy the waters, don't you?

Ah, you mean those protesters are all for reforms?

[baboon]

There are several reasons for this fear coming from the anti-democrats.

The events of 1932 embarrasses and threatens them, for they are evidence of different views on politics. Much of the work of those fearful of Democracy currently and since 1957, has been about erasing the ideals of the original People's Party.

What fear? People celebrating a coup by Colonels led by two Bangkok Amart?

...Hellbent on overturning the status quo, not preserving it. The two can't be compared as you well know, but you simply have to attempt to muddy the waters, don't you?

Ah, you mean those protesters are all for reforms?

No, I mean you simply have to muddy the waters as you are trying to do again with the above flapdoodle.

[geriatrickid]

There are several reasons for this fear coming from the anti-democrats.

The events of 1932 embarrasses and threatens them, for they are evidence of different views on politics. Much of the work of those fearful of Democracy currently and since 1957, has been about erasing the ideals of the original People's Party.

What fear? People celebrating a coup by Colonels led by two Bangkok Amart?

Why do you insist on consistently misrepresenting events? You dismiss the event as a "coup by colonels and 2 Bangkok Amart". It was not.

The event was distinguished by the politics related to a subject that cannot be discussed in TVF. It required a coalition of people, of which the military were the key members. The military were required because the Amart and their military allies controlled the country and only the military could dislodge the military. Do the characteristics look familiar?

Is it a coincidence that the military has moved to squash any talk of a pending military coup?

[rubl]

What fear? People celebrating a coup by Colonels led by two Bangkok Amart?

...Hellbent on overturning the status quo, not preserving it. The two can't be compared as you well know, but you simply have to attempt to muddy the waters, don't you?

Ah, you mean those protesters are all for reforms?

No, I mean you simply have to muddy the waters as you are trying to do again with the above flapdoodle.

Now let's see what was said.

First Banhim with stating "this fear" (There are several reasons for this fear coming from the anti-democrats.) without there being any obvious fear. Then me asking what fear and asking maybe you mean this and giving an example. Then you suggesting "hellbent on overturning" as if that's a fear plus coming with overturning or preserving a status quo. All that as if to muddle waters. Then I ask if you mean the protesters also want reforms. You seem to have lost track as now you accuse me of muddling waters whereas it was actually Banhim with his fear which came out of nowhere.

[baboon]

I have at no point accused you off muddling waters. How dare you misrepresent me?

[rubl]

There are several reasons for this fear coming from the anti-democrats.

The events of 1932 embarrasses and threatens them, for they are evidence of different views on politics. Much of the work of those fearful of Democracy currently and since 1957, has been about erasing the ideals of the original People's Party.

What fear? People celebrating a coup by Colonels led by two Bangkok Amart?

Why do you insist on consistently misrepresenting events? You dismiss the event as a "coup by colonels and 2 Bangkok Amart". It was not.

The event was distinguished by the politics related to a subject that cannot be discussed in TVF. It required a coalition of people, of which the military were the key members. The military were required because the Amart and their military allies controlled the country and only the military could dislodge the military. Do the characteristics look familiar?

Is it a coincidence that the military has moved to squash any talk of a pending military coup?

"This new elite would eventually form the People’s Party that provided the nucleus of the 1932 revolution."

"By implication, this line of argument suggests the 1932 Revolution was nothing more than a coup that simply replaced the absolute monarchy and its aristocracy with a commoner elite class made up of Western-educated generals and civilian bureaucrats and essentially that there was little that was revolutionary about this event."

So, four 'tiger' soldiers becoming the leaders of the 'people's party'.

Anyway, it would seem that there's not much truth in the 'pending' military coup. Just a few fools trying to muddle the waters, spread fear and unrest.

[baboon]

There are several reasons for this fear coming from the anti-democrats.

The events of 1932 embarrasses and threatens them, for they are evidence of different views on politics. Much of the work of those fearful of Democracy currently and since 1957, has been about erasing the ideals of the original People's Party.

What fear? People celebrating a coup by Colonels led by two Bangkok Amart?

Why do you insist on consistently misrepresenting events? You dismiss the event as a "coup by colonels and 2 Bangkok Amart". It was not.

The event was distinguished by the politics related to a subject that cannot be discussed in TVF. It required a coalition of people, of which the military were the key members. The military were required because the Amart and their military allies controlled the country and only the military could dislodge the military. Do the characteristics look familiar?

Is it a coincidence that the military has moved to squash any talk of a pending military coup?

"This new elite would eventually form the Peoples Party that provided the nucleus of the 1932 revolution."

"By implication, this line of argument suggests the 1932 Revolution was nothing more than a coup that simply replaced the absolute monarchy and its aristocracy with a commoner elite class made up of Western-educated generals and civilian bureaucrats and essentially that there was little that was revolutionary about this event."

So, four 'tiger' soldiers becoming the leaders of the 'people's party'.

Anyway, it would seem that there's not much truth in the 'pending' military coup. Just a few fools trying to muddle the waters, spread fear and unrest.

Again, it would seem you have nothing to say In the 'pending' of others. Some might say the UN, others your fabrications of what perhaps was maybe. But then, is this the case upon future consideration?

[SpoliaOpima]

There are several reasons for this fear coming from the anti-democrats.

The events of 1932 embarrasses and threatens them, for they are evidence of different views on politics. Much of the work of those fearful of Democracy currently and since 1957, has been about erasing the ideals of the original People's Party.

The 1932 'revolution' was a military-led coup d'etat fomented by a very small group of participants with little popular support. The Thai military today consider themselves the rightful 'owners' of the Revolution and Thai democracy.

Hence in their eyes the military retain the right to mount coups any time they deem it necessary. They're merely carrying on a tradition born in 1932.

[rubl]

What fear? People celebrating a coup by Colonels led by two Bangkok Amart?

Why do you insist on consistently misrepresenting events? You dismiss the event as a "coup by colonels and 2 Bangkok Amart". It was not.

The event was distinguished by the politics related to a subject that cannot be discussed in TVF. It required a coalition of people, of which the military were the key members. The military were required because the Amart and their military allies controlled the country and only the military could dislodge the military. Do the characteristics look familiar?

Is it a coincidence that the military has moved to squash any talk of a pending military coup?

"This new elite would eventually form the Peoples Party that provided the nucleus of the 1932 revolution."

"By implication, this line of argument suggests the 1932 Revolution was nothing more than a coup that simply replaced the absolute monarchy and its aristocracy with a commoner elite class made up of Western-educated generals and civilian bureaucrats and essentially that there was little that was revolutionary about this event."

So, four 'tiger' soldiers becoming the leaders of the 'people's party'.

Anyway, it would seem that there's not much truth in the 'pending' military coup. Just a few fools trying to muddle the waters, spread fear and unrest.

Again, it would seem you have nothing to say In the 'pending' of others. Some might say the UN, others your fabrications of what perhaps was maybe. But then, is this the case upon future consideration?

Well, difficult to say anything on 'pending' others. I just wrote some info on the celebrated 1932 coup and how there doesn't seem to be any solid evidence on a pending coup.

Now, your reply doesn't really make much sense, I fear. What do you mean with 'pending' UN? What fabrications did I write? What is the case and what has that to do with future considerations?

[baboon]

Some might indicate my point could be seen to be as clear as a good deal of yours.

It may be said I need not elaborate.

Edited June 26, 2015 by baboon