Definition of "First Class Physician"? for medical certificates

[55bulldog]

I am curious to know if anyone could define what a "first class physician" is? The labor law and my contract state that if an employee is absent 3 or more consecutive days the employee must give the employer a medical certificate from a first class physician.

More specifically, does anyone know if a chiropractor would fit the bill? In a little disagreement with my past employer over last few days of pay. They are trying to nickle and dime me and not pay me my last 3 days that I called in before resigning.

I went to a chiro with severe inflammation and sciatic nerve pain as the result of a common lower back condition and we also discussed liver parasites and the over the counter antibiotics to treat them. (Highly recommend this as liver cancer is the number one cancer here and the direct result of parasites....sure you all read the story 2 weeks ago).

Anyways, he had written me a med cert my very first visit a few months earlier. This time when I asked him if he could write another one and to include in the details that we discussed antibiotics to kill parasites to reduce inflammation, he would not. He said he does not like to write med certs for anything than chiro related because he is not certified to prescribe meds.....so I am thinking that maybe he is not a first class physician............

Anyways, if anyone knows please let me know.

PS. The name of the over counter antibiotics to kill liver parasites is called "Zentell". The generic is called something else and will set you back 70baht for a 3 day burst. The way you take (the pharmacist should explain): Phase one: Take 2 a day for 3 days wait a week. Phase two: repeat taking 2 a day for 3 days to kill any remaining larvae that survived the first phase. I do not believe in antibiotics and try to avoid them when I am sick but these aren't very strong and it is a good idea to do twice a year as parasites are abundant here.

[KhunBENQ]

"first class physician"? Never heard.

If someone could find a link to this Thai labor law in Thai and English it would be helpful.

A fully educated/examined/certified MD (medical doctor) is a:

(พ.บ.) แพทยศาสตรบัณฑิต

(por. bor.) pâet sàat ban-dìt

If your chiropractor does not have that, he is surely not "first class".

Every MD has a certificate that is clearly displayed in his rooms.

Quite sure: every certificate has a number which is also displayed and can probably looked up.

[Soutpeel]

It means someone who is a registered physician with the Thai medical council and they will have a registration number, which is 5 digits long, typically they have stamp which states "their name" MD" and below it is the registration number

[55bulldog]

Thanks guys, yeah the chiro has his name and it says Dr. of Chiro then it says License No. followed by two Thai alphabet initials (the letter k for kwai(waterbuffalo)-could be deg(dekChai-child)-it has been awhile since I studied the Thai alphabet and get those 2 confused- and then the "W" looking symbol with the circle on the outside (I think the letter for "pung" or "bee")) 2 digits a forward slash then 4 digits.

The physical therapist name has her name, the the Thai alphabet initial "gai" or "kai" (chicken) then 4 digits.

[nowretired]

Chiropractors are NOT physicians .

Read all about the quackery of "chiropractic" here .......

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chiro.html

Adults are of course free to make informed choices

[KhunBENQ]

I hesitated to use this joke, but as an admirer of the "old" "Two and a Half Men" sitcom:

"Dr. Alan Harper" was a chiropractic and frequently claiming that "real doctors" look down his profession

[metisdead]

An off topic troll post has been removed.

[55bulldog]

Ok, the jury is finally in. Is a chiropractor considered a 1st class physician? More specifically are medical certificates given by chiropractors acceptable for sick days in the eyes of the ministry of labor?

The answer is "yes".

The article provided by a poster that they're quacks is debatable. The same could be said for modern medicine. I found the article interesting. As a sufferer of a lower back condition accompanied with sciatic nerve pain I can say my treatments have improved the condition considerably. I believe natural treatments (no pharmaceuticals) are the answer to many issues.

[NickJ]

I too have a problem with chiropractors. mostly ethical violations. However the research is on there side. For certain conditions. One thing caught my attention. All NFL teams and other pro sport teams all have them on staff. There is no way a pro team would let a quack lay his hands on a multi million dollar athlete. Period.

However . whenever I tried then in Bkk I got some much mumbo jumbo hocus pocos that it turned my stomach........So some seem good. Others dangerous and to be avoided.

[55bulldog]

NickJ I could give you the name of mine. It took a few weeks to get the kinks out but it has helped a lot. However, it is a bit pricey. First visit 2800 then each visit is 2000. It usually involves treatment with electrolysis, magnetic impulses, and laser treatment. My back is so screwed up that some visits include all three being done before he "cracks" me up. He does charge less for quick visits that involve just an adjustment. Sciatic nerve pain used to be really bad but now it is nearly gone some days it is gone.

He is American and studied in Los Angeles and has been practicing over 20 years. He is near the BTS towards southeast side.

But yes some of them can be quite the salesmen trying to convince you to buy other bs like arch supports for your shoes, back support belts, supplements, etc Chiros aren't like "real" doctors who have the pharmaceutical guise to make their money. This guy isn't like that and actually provides information about things you can do on your own to improve health.

If you pm me I can give you the name and location.