stament Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Sounds promising, when are you test driving it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Sounds promising, when are you test driving it? I won't be - broken leg. Licence 5 years ago when I got cancer - forgetfulness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stament Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 oh ok very sorry to hear that. we will wait for other experts on here who are car boffs to give their reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I am surprised that there is a lack of input on this thread. The Pajero is getting VG reports in the media. I feel quite comfortable with this purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I am surprised that there is a lack of input on this thread. The Pajero is getting VG reports in the media. I feel quite comfortable with this purchase. Reading the threads here, it's clear the order of popularity, based on number of replies is: 1. Everest, 2. Pajero Sport, 3.Fortuner - which is how I would asses them too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stament Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 maybe people havent had a chance to test drive it yett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Maybe people want the best and are buying the Everest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Maybe people want the best and are buying the Everest? Hard to say... both Ford and Mitsubishi have decent bookings (but neither will say exactly how many), but because they aren't delivering in volume yet, the official sales numbers aren't yet any guide. The sales numbers for November and December will start painting the picture though. That said, the Everest is clearly the best, but at 150,000 Baht more than the pre-launch PJS promotion price, it makes the PJS look like pretty darn good value. Now that the pre-launch promotion is over, and the price gap narrows to 100K, the Everest Titanium+ is once again the top value proposition, given it's significant extras - even without considering all the aspects where it's clearly a step, or leap ahead. Yeah, you're probably right Edited October 16, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Wife is just back from CNX - loaded with brochures & a freebie. Test drive - plenty of power! As soon as she arrived, opened the "tablet" of course. More & more Pajero! I will be happy when this obsession is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 WAIT there is one more. Our honoured clients. Our NEW Pajero Sports golf umbrella! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stament Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 free tablet and brolly as well as brochures, seems like they are pushing the boat out! Have you taken delivery of the car yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 No free "tablet". No delivery yet. One more month to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj123 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) I had a chat with my local Mitsu Dealer in Pathumthani and asked them about tax and delivery dates. They said if you order now they will deliver in December and if they delivered after December they would pay the extra tax. Which was nice... But would I trust them to?..... Perhaps a deal is going to be done between the automotive industry and the government to reduce the impact of the new taxes on 1 January 2016. Edited October 16, 2015 by pj123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH77 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Finally had a Test Drive yesterday in Mukdahan, 4x4 GT. The engine is much quiter than in previous models and the 8 speed gearbox is sweet with very quick changes, not draged out like the old model. The ride also seemed better than my 3.2GT but it has now done 175,000 K's so that is to be expected. The Performance was very good both in Auto and driving Manually, good fast changes that took it to 160K's easy in 6th gear and I think it would do 200 K's in Top gear, no problem. Definitely quicker than my 3,2 in acceleration and very quiet which means it is much much quieter than the outgoing 2.5 Lt which was much noisier than the 3.2. As the test drive was only short, maybe 10 K's in did not get the time or opportunity to test much else or the 4 wheel drive control but the brakes were certainly much improved also. If I get a chance to give it a full on test later this week I will post the remainder of my opinion along with some times, 0 to 100 and so on to compare it with my 3.2's times both standard and Chipped. All in All, I liked it and the front seats have much better support also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I had a chat with my local Mitsu Dealer in Pathumthani and asked them about tax and delivery dates. They said if you order now they will deliver in December and if they delivered after December they would pay the extra tax. Which was nice... But would I trust them to?..... Perhaps a deal is going to be done between the automotive industry and the government to reduce the impact of the new taxes on 1 January 2016. Get that in writing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 In summary, the Pajero Sports is an excellent SUV - a huge improvement on the previous model? I guess that it is going to have a big impact on the market. Sales service - excellent. After-sales service - the great unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I just wish that delivery would be yesterday. Wife continually bombards me with details of colour scheme, seats etc. Hell, it has all been ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 In summary, the Pajero Sports is an excellent SUV - a huge improvement on the previous model? I guess that it is going to have a big impact on the market. Sales service - excellent. After-sales service - the great unknown. Aftersales service is always hit & miss, even if you use the same place each time. Just have to hope nothing involved ever needs fixing on it. Enjoy the new wheels (when they arrive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Thank you, JTB Problem - we live in the Boonies. Plus - FIL is a competent motor mechanic. He did a final test drive recently - VG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think we need to give fang37 some type of award for "most excited future passenger", hehe J/K Fang37, happy to see that you and your wife are so excited about the new PJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 You are 50% correct. ie wife. BTW, when do I receive my award? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) You are 50% correct. ie wife. BTW, when do I receive my award? Wel, until you take delivery there's just no way to know what ranking to put on the award I guess Edited October 18, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Provided the award is TOO expensive, I will be patient. At the moment, I am preparing my acceptance speech, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fang37 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 BTW, I have another speech to write. Attaining 2000 posts of supreme BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUDAS Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 In the last few days I have test driven both the EV 2.2 and the PJ top spec. Thought I'd put pen to paper, figuratively speaking. I do feel it necessary though to point out I'm really not a "petrol head" but at the same time like to keep up to date with developments/new models. As I tested the EV first that's the one I'll address initially. My point of comparison to the EV is my current vehicle, a top spec 2008 Vigo 4 door 4x4 auto. Straight off the EV was noticeably quieter on startup whether inside or outside of the vehicle. I found the drivers seat to be more supportive and perhaps a little firmer though my Vigo seats would obviously have given somewhat over the years. Now, I'll just stick to the driving experience. Pulling out of the parking bay I almost threw it into full lock yes the steering is a lot lighter a low speed, electronic power steering? Out of the dealership and onto the highway I just gassed it as I normally would. Instantly noticed how smooth the auto box was changing, almost seamless in comparison to the Vigo. When I glanced down at the speedo I was actually shocked that I was close to 140kph yet felt extremely relaxed at that speed. At 140 in the Vigo it just feels much faster and louder requiring more concentration, at least for me. Brakes were very sensitive, by that I mean virtually no pedal travel before biting pretty hard by comparison, I'm guessing that will change somewhat after a few 1000 km. Steering felt not so light at speed which is a good thing. Stopped on the hard shoulder, waited for a break in traffic then floored it to compare acceleration from standing start. I'm no expert, felt pretty similar to Vigo, maybe V just a tad quicker off the mark? hard to judge for me as it was all so quiet I did notice though that kick down during an overtake seemed slightly more delayed than the V. All in all, I walked away shaking my head in surprise at how good a drive it actually was. Yesterday the wife and I had a 12:30 appointment for PJ test drive which didn't actually happen until well over 2 hours later. This was the much awaited test drive of a vehicle which we both fancied a lot. We'll ignore the tailgate for now I'll compare the PJ with the EV: Immediately noticed I was sitting too high so lowered the seat, not sure if I got it all the way down but still felt my head was too close to headliner, that was definitely the case when I sat in the back, even my wife commented on that and I'm only 180cm tall. Ok, to the drive. The steering felt heavier which is fine by me. Now as soon as I got on the road I noticed how twitchy the steering was which didn't make for a laid back initial drive. Off course, the tire may well have had the extra 20psi pressure applied as is common here but I didn't check. Engine was noticeably nosier the the EV and gear change nowhere near as smooth. Power I'll say was slightly better than EV but not by much, just my seat of the pants experience which my have been influenced by the fact it was louder. Had the same feeling through the brakes as EV. TBH within a minute or 2 on the road I knew the PJ was not the drive I was hoping for. The EV is a much better drive IMO Like I said, I'm not a petrol head and just commenting on how both vehicles felt to me. P.S. I thought the PJ digital dials were far too cluttered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) All in all, I walked away shaking my head in surprise at how good a drive it actually was. One thing I can tell you is the more you drive the Everest, the more little pleasant nuances you'll find. Spend a few days with the Everest's superlight parking speed steering, and everything else just feels 'unsophisticated' by comparison. As you drive over more common routes, you'll notice how much better it's soaking up the bumps, and just how much quieter it actually is on all road surface types. You'll also find yourself driving faster, all the time - the lack of noise and harshness really does take some getting used to. The first time you pitch it into a corner at speed, you'll realise you could have done that much faster - the ride suppleness tricks you into thinking it'll need a much slower corner speed than it actually does... As you drive up hills, you'll notice the car knows this and holds gears longer - as you drive down them, you'll notice it automatically uses a lower gear for engine braking... Then there's the way it learns your throttle pedal movements over time - that slower kick down you noticed it will soon adapt to - right now, your right foot instinctively 'knows' how hard to stab the throttle to get kick down in the Vigo - give the EV a few days and it will learn your movements, so you don't have to learn it's. Then there's smaller things, like the fact that the stereo (or your hands-free phone call), doesn't just abruptly power down as you instinctively switch off the ignition when parking (I still get out out by that in my other cars) - it waits until you open your door before it powers down. If you've owned another PPV before, your backseat passengers will notice that it's not just an AC in the back, it's also a heater, and not only do both rows get overhead air vents, both rows also have footwell air outlets (yep even the 3rd row where the foot level air comes from the side). Even little things like the way the cabin lights up - not just the placement of the normal interior lights, it uses the stereo screen and instrument cluster screens as interior lighting too. If you share the driver's chair with someone else, you can program their key with a speed limiter, overspeed warnings, you can remove their ability to turn off safety aids, and even a put volume limiter on the 10-speaker stereo (which is light years better sounding than anything else in the segment). etc etc There really has been an awful lot of effort, and attention to detail put into that car, given the price point. It's astonishing what they've achieved with it. Edited October 19, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 In the last few days I have test driven both the EV 2.2 and the PJ top spec. I'm sure you realise that for the PJS top spec money, you can step up to the 3.2L AWD Everest - if you do that, you'll get that extra bit of power you want, and very impressive wet road handling. Or, just save the 200K and buy the 2.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUDAS Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 In the last few days I have test driven both the EV 2.2 and the PJ top spec. I'm sure you realise that for the PJS top spec money, you can step up to the 3.2L AWD Everest - if you do that, you'll get that extra bit of power you want, and very impressive wet road handling. Or, just save the 200K and buy the 2.2 After reading your previous post I had already agreed on the 3.2 with the wife, you're a very persuasive writer The PJ with a few extras I specified came to 1.6m anyway so no big deal adding 100k to that for top spec EV. I have some heavy financial commitments in the next month or 2 with building work but know I have to make final decision prior to Jan 1 to avoid price increase. Thanks a lot for taking the time to offer your advice/experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I never paid much attention to the Pajero on the road since I don't really like the body shape. I did rent a new one on a couple of occasions from Thai rent a car about 5-6 years ago and found it more 'sporty' than their regular fleet of Fortuners. I never paid much attention to Mitusbishi's own-goal of naming of the marque as 'w^nker' in the local market where Hispanics are very few. But I have elevated the w^nker drivers well above the usual up-your-arse-in-the-fast-lane Fortuner after last saturday's jaunt down Highway 33 to Rayong. It looks like the Pajero Sports Club of Bangkok were on their way east on a weekend 'rally' when I encountered them. I have seen these sorts of convoys before with the Mini owners and Volvo owners on a 'ride' to some beach or mountain escape with like-minded individuals. However, these t0ssers, probably well over 50 or 60 of them decided to assume the same dictates as the buses full of Thai boyscouts with police escorts frequently seen in LOS. They were nose-to-tail in the outside lane on a very busy and mostly 2-lane dual carriageway, lights on, some with faux red & blue strobes, some with big whip antennas so assuming 'controlling' the pack and doing their collective best to prevent faster drivers from undertaking by closing the gaps between each other. Rude, arrogant and totally unsafe as they raised the ire of other road users in their ostentatious show of Pajero-ism. When it comes to Thailand and these particular Pajero owners, the mis-naming is absolutely correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I never paid much attention to the Pajero on the road since I don't really like the body shape. I did rent a new one on a couple of occasions from Thai rent a car about 5-6 years ago and found it more 'sporty' than their regular fleet of Fortuners. I never paid much attention to Mitusbishi's own-goal of naming of the marque as 'w^nker' in the local market where Hispanics are very few. But I have elevated the w^nker drivers well above the usual up-your-arse-in-the-fast-lane Fortuner after last saturday's jaunt down Highway 33 to Rayong. It looks like the Pajero Sports Club of Bangkok were on their way east on a weekend 'rally' when I encountered them. I have seen these sorts of convoys before with the Mini owners and Volvo owners on a 'ride' to some beach or mountain escape with like-minded individuals. However, these t0ssers, probably well over 50 or 60 of them decided to assume the same dictates as the buses full of Thai boyscouts with police escorts frequently seen in LOS. They were nose-to-tail in the outside lane on a very busy and mostly 2-lane dual carriageway, lights on, some with faux red & blue strobes, some with big whip antennas so assuming 'controlling' the pack and doing their collective best to prevent faster drivers from undertaking by closing the gaps between each other. Rude, arrogant and totally unsafe as they raised the ire of other road users in their ostentatious show of Pajero-ism. When it comes to Thailand and these particular Pajero owners, the mis-naming is absolutely correct. That might have been an 'Pajero owners caravan'. I've done a few with Isuzu 'D-Max'. Yes they all travel in convoy and all are given radios.All have a great time ... you should try and get an invite when you get your next new cat. We have also done trips with 'E' class. Definately what the Thais call 'good fun'. We had a great time .. try it someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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