Travel2003 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I can see in the news today there will be implemented some new rules, in regards to who the companies can hire, etc. Wherever I have lived in Thailand, the security guards have normally been below par. Or maybe the low level is the par. Several times, coming home late, I had to lift the boom/barrier myself, since the guard is fast asleep. Told my wife this should be discussed at the mobaan meeting, which they did. All unit owners agreed the guards were useless. I asked why we didn't fire them, or use another company. The reply was, because if we fire them, the guards will come back and break into the houses instead. So we are held hostage by useless guards. Anyone in same situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJohnson Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I've lived in about 8-9 different places. Always the same. Ranges from the benign (sleeping on the job etc) to running gambling den in the car park, breaking, entering and stealing, vandalism.......and on and on. We've been sacking the occasional guard and that can result in some success by giving a reality check to those left behind. Conversely, it fires up those left behind to vandalize committee emmer' scars and the like. Not sure there is much to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Should hire all the ex navy seals and SAS hanging around the bars in Pattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 That sounds like a point to condo life. Even security guards out the front of some hotels are fast asleep. One hotel we'd sneak past him cause I'd feel bad waking him up. He'd be out by the elevator snoring away every night. Woeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Our mobaan became open more than 30 years ago and crime immediately decreased and has not been a problem since. The guards were the real problem as they passed the word (if they did not do themselves). Probably more cost effective these days to install a few cameras recording main streets that can be used for reference in case of a theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Should hire all the ex navy seals and SAS hanging around the bars in Pattaya Aren't those guys supposed to kill you after they told you they are special forces.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Security guards at my place are great! Very vigilant, always on patrol and quite vocal at passers by. They tend to be quite aggressive if approached and seem quite threatening on occasion. They dont get paid, and are quite happy playing with a ball and getting fed twice a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 stop paying the moo-baan service, or if they have other services that work well deduct what you mean is the share of the security. I think from 10 years here we only paid 3 years. Before we didn't pay because they were corrupt and we couldn't see what happens with the money. With a new leader we paid...and stopped again as it didn't work. No we never attend the moo baan meeting....waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Should hire all the ex navy seals and SAS hanging around the bars in Pattaya Aren't those guys supposed to kill you after they told you they are special forces.. ? Well if they roll over you, you are flat.......And they may hold the black belt in Sumo Wrestling Our security guy is nice.....but I worry I can still outsmart or overpower him when I am 85 and have drank a bottle vodka.....Lets hope the bad guys are in no better shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We got rid of them years ago ,complete and utter waste of money ,although one of them was a nice guy and used to sweep the street. Never saw one awake at night or much in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Security guards at my place are great! Very vigilant, always on patrol and quite vocal at passers by. They tend to be quite aggressive if approached and seem quite threatening on occasion. They dont get paid, and are quite happy playing with a ball and getting fed twice a day. Same as our both...pretend to sleep all day long but if anybody comes close to our house an inferno brakes loose and nobody would like to mess with them...because nobody knows they are actually friendly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Security guards at my place are great! Very vigilant, always on patrol and quite vocal at passers by. They tend to be quite aggressive if approached and seem quite threatening on occasion. They dont get paid, and are quite happy playing with a ball and getting fed twice a day. But they might be corrupt....I might be able to bribe them with sausage..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Security guards at my place are great! Very vigilant, always on patrol and quite vocal at passers by. They tend to be quite aggressive if approached and seem quite threatening on occasion. They dont get paid, and are quite happy playing with a ball and getting fed twice a day. Same as our both...pretend to sleep all day long but if anybody comes close to our house an inferno brakes loose and nobody would like to mess with them...because nobody knows they are actually friendly... Yeah former neighbor had two rottweiler....The Thais were scared to death..... Rottis are the most lovely dogs once they know you a bit, but it seems unknown here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Security guards at my place are great! Very vigilant, always on patrol and quite vocal at passers by. They tend to be quite aggressive if approached and seem quite threatening on occasion. They dont get paid, and are quite happy playing with a ball and getting fed twice a day. Same as our both...pretend to sleep all day long but if anybody comes close to our house an inferno brakes loose and nobody would like to mess with them...because nobody knows they are actually friendly... Yeah former neighbor had two rottweiler....The Thais were scared to death..... Rottis are the most lovely dogs once they know you a bit, but it seems unknown here. Rot ties are great and extreme loyal...we have one bull terrier and a blue line pitty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We have changed security guard company several times in my condo building. As long as you use Thai companies and pay Thai prices (circa 15,000B/month/shift) you can probably expect to get some guards who drink and sleep because their management will be equally incompetent and lazy. It's certainly the case with all the companies we have used. But if you are prepared to pay an extra 7-8KB/month/shift then you could afford Securitas who, I think, are in a completely different league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Security guards at my place are great! Very vigilant, always on patrol and quite vocal at passers by. They tend to be quite aggressive if approached and seem quite threatening on occasion. They dont get paid, and are quite happy playing with a ball and getting fed twice a day. We also had a guard who had fleas and used to crap on the floor. But we sacked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Security guards at my place are great! Very vigilant, always on patrol and quite vocal at passers by. They tend to be quite aggressive if approached and seem quite threatening on occasion. They dont get paid, and are quite happy playing with a ball and getting fed twice a day. Same as our both...pretend to sleep all day long but if anybody comes close to our house an inferno brakes loose and nobody would like to mess with them...because nobody knows they are actually friendly... Yeah former neighbor had two rottweiler....The Thais were scared to death..... Rottis are the most lovely dogs once they know you a bit, but it seems unknown here. Rot ties are great and extreme loyal...we have one bull terrier and a blue line pitty... Very nice!!!......I have no garden and I am a bit (not much) allergic so no smelly friends for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opalred Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 are they they to stop mad frangs getting out in public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travel2003 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 Security guards at my place are great! Very vigilant, always on patrol and quite vocal at passers by. They tend to be quite aggressive if approached and seem quite threatening on occasion. They dont get paid, and are quite happy playing with a ball and getting fed twice a day. But they might be corrupt....I might be able to bribe them with sausage..... Someone told me a few chocolate bars would do the trick with dogs. Not sure if that is just an urban myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnigel Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Should hire all the ex navy seals and SAS hanging around the bars in PattayaWe special forces aren't allowed to do Thai jobs, so they won't give me a w/p....lol, still wouldn't do it for peanuts anyway...back to the bar then chaps, "right, where was I?" "Oh yes, then I killed 4 of them with my bare hands, and then...guys, guys? Where u goin', I havent told you about when....?"Only joking, i'm not really special forces....shh, I'm MI5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I asked why we didn't fire them, or use another company. The reply was, because if we fire them, the guards will come back and break into the houses instead. That's an old wives tail... Thing is that with guards that lazy, they are hardly likely to make the effort. When I had a condo, we had some residents complain about the guards standards, sleeping on duty etc, the management just cancelled their contract and had a new firm in straight away, the management even put up notices to report them sleeping on the job, as I recall the notices had a photo of one of the old firm asleep on duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Security guards at my place are great! Very vigilant, always on patrol and quite vocal at passers by. They tend to be quite aggressive if approached and seem quite threatening on occasion. They dont get paid, and are quite happy playing with a ball and getting fed twice a day. But they might be corrupt....I might be able to bribe them with sausage..... Someone told me a few chocolate bars would do the trick with dogs. Not sure if that is just an urban myth. My mother came to visit....had the aggressive soi dog mafia....next time she went to the pet shop and bought some nice food. Since than if she had food or not, she had a 10 dog security guard :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomchop Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 But do the guards charge extra to blow their whistles about a thousand times a day irritating the crap out of everyone day after day after day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RasiMike Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We never noticed any problems with our local guys. Mr Smith and Mr Wesson are light sleepers and on call 24/7, so we have a lot of faith in their abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 But they might be corrupt....I might be able to bribe them with sausage..... Careful, they may not be corrupt. And they'll take the wrong sausage from you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) There's a vacant section (now turning into a carpark) between my soi and the next. I see the security guard for the apartment block every night...he seems to be on the ball. He wanders around with his torch, checking the cars etc. Mind you, from his uniform he must be very highly qualified. He appears to be an Admiral Field Marshal General Commodore, many times decorated. AND!!!! he has a whistle! Very important man, no doubt. Edited August 10, 2015 by Seastallion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 the first 4yrs.we had drunks,70yr.olds,cripples,blokes who could sleep standing up,leaving their posts for hrs.but we dug our heels in and said enough is enough,held the community charge untill they changed.it worked and we now have 2great blokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Our guards were fired several years ago and break-ins dropped to almost nothing. The guards were letting their buddies know when residents were not at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 We had problems with our guards many years ago. Got new ones and they were OK, but did sleep at night. The new ones we have now, off duty navy guys, are fantastic. They might doze off from time to time, but not on a regular basis. Plus, it keeps all the riff raff out of our village. With the guards a long time ago, they'd let all sorts of people into the village to go door to door selling stuff. Ugh.... We've not had a break in or problem in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaywardWind Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Should hire all the ex navy seals and SAS hanging around the bars in Pattaya A reminder of the old adage: there were about 500 Navy SEALS in Vietnam, and I have met all 50,000 of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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