lostoday Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 No. It's a developing country. Pretty sure this topic has been done to death a few times already. I think it has but I believe mentality of the educated and working class of the country the OP is from is very low. I only say this because I'm sure he wont mind as it is not a bashing statement as he can attest from his OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 OP writes. "the Thai mentality is very low, from both the well educated to the working class. Please don't turn this into a Thai bashing topic," Now if that is not a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is. Rubbish, there is nothing wrong with critisising if it is constructive, I did not want any critisising the Thais if you cannot say anything good about them, and there is plenty of good about Thailand and it's people, so awa an gie us peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 What's a third world country? Originally there was the Old World, the New World and the Third World. So yes it's a third world country. It is a newly industrialised country. You seem to be confusing third world with inferiority in some way. Actually ... Third World - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World The term Third World arose during the Cold War to define countries that remained non-aligned with either NATO, or the Communist Bloc. The United States, Western European nations and their allies represented the First World, while the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, and their allies represented the Second World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It's well on they way to the Fourth world..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 No. It's a developing country. Pretty sure this topic has been done to death a few times already. It does not matter SB, there are different posters saying different things all the time, someone said the same thing about one of your posts and I told them the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 What's a third world country? Originally there was the Old World, the New World and the Third World. So yes it's a third world country. It is a newly industrialised country. You seem to be confusing third world with inferiority in some way. Actually ... Third World - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World The term Third World arose during the Cold War to define countries that remained non-aligned with either NATO, or the Communist Bloc. The United States, Western European nations and their allies represented the First World, while the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, and their allies represented the Second World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 No matter how many times it's pointed out how outdated the term is, some people will keep using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Third world corruption, definitely, but a lot of developed world services so I say it is a country in transition. Will it ever get to the standard of Singapore? Probably not for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 'Third World' is obsolete. The United Nations replaced it with 'developing country' a long time ago. A politically correct term for "Useless mismanaged, under educated and brainwashed country" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) OP writes. "the Thai mentality is very low, from both the well educated to the working class. Please don't turn this into a Thai bashing topic," Now if that is not a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is. Rubbish, there is nothing wrong with critisising if it is constructive, I did not want any critisising the Thais if you cannot say anything good about them, and there is plenty of good about Thailand and it's people, so awa an gie us peace. I agree with you considering your mentality I think you are doing great just to be able to type. After all you did say criticizing is OK as long as it's constructive. If I were you I'd go back to school and take a course in ethnocentrism and how not to offend people from other cultures and lands. Hint - when you tell people that they all have a very low mentality (both educated and working class) they want to hang you up on a pole and throw unripe mangoes at your nose just for starters. No offense but the working classes from your country seem prone to berate other nationalities with great pleasure and redundancy. Hint- constructive of course- maybe the next time you want to call an entire country stupid you wash your mouth out with soap just like your momma would have done. Constructively of course Edited August 24, 2015 by lostoday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 OP writes. "the Thai mentality is very low, from both the well educated to the working class. Please don't turn this into a Thai bashing topic," Now if that is not a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is. Rubbish, there is nothing wrong with critisising if it is constructive, I did not want any critisising the Thais if you cannot say anything good about them, and there is plenty of good about Thailand and it's people, so awa an gie us peace. I agree with you considering your mentality I think you are doing great just to be able to type. After all you did say criticizing is OK as long as it's constructive. If I were you I'd go back to school and take a course in ethnocentrism and how not to offend people from other cultures and lands. Hint - when you tell people that they all have a very low mentality (both educated and working class) they want to hang you up on a pole and throw unripe mangoes at your nose just for starters. No offense but the working classes from your country seem prone to berate other nationalities with great pleasure and redundancy. Hint- constructive of course- maybe the next time you want to call an entire country stupid you wash your mouth out with soap just like your momma would have done. Constructively of course Like I said before "awa an gies peace" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kannikapor88 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Of course its still a 3rd World Country having a Military Coup - at average - every 4-5 years as I remember the statistics ... Just a few Words that should consolidate the position in the 3rd World : Corruption, Koh Tao, RTP, Andy Hall, Kirsty Jones and the list just goes on .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 OP writes. "the Thai mentality is very low, from both the well educated to the working class. Please don't turn this into a Thai bashing topic," Now if that is not a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is. Rubbish, there is nothing wrong with critisising if it is constructive, I did not want any critisising the Thais if you cannot say anything good about them, and there is plenty of good about Thailand and it's people, so awa an gie us peace. I agree with you considering your mentality I think you are doing great just to be able to type. After all you did say criticizing is OK as long as it's constructive. If I were you I'd go back to school and take a course in ethnocentrism and how not to offend people from other cultures and lands. Hint - when you tell people that they all have a very low mentality (both educated and working class) they want to hang you up on a pole and throw unripe mangoes at your nose just for starters. No offense but the working classes from your country seem prone to berate other nationalities with great pleasure and redundancy. Hint- constructive of course- maybe the next time you want to call an entire country stupid you wash your mouth out with soap just like your momma would have done. Constructively of course Like I said before "awa an gies peace" I like you Mr. Possom I was just trying to make a point. It is not nice or right to call a whole country, educated and not, stupid and expect that not to be a bashing post/thread. My wife is a big girl. Big education, big job, big fist and big heart. If you told her she and everyone else in Thailand had a low mentality she would hit you in the face no matter how big and smart you look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Like I said before "awa an gies peace" Can you say it a few more times? Maybe I'll get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I like you Mr. Possom I was just trying to make a point. It is not nice or right to call a whole country, educated and not, stupid and expect that not to be a bashing post/thread. My wife is a big girl. Big education, big job, big fist and big heart. If you told her she and everyone else in Thailand had a low mentality she would hit you in the face no matter how big and smart you look. So ... people with "high mentality" punch people in the face for expressing an opinion. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Mostly "YES". There are a few areas where they are comparable to a first world country, but very few areas. Maybe medical when it comes to some hospitals and some doctors. I am thoroughly satisfied with the Dental care I get here. Some of the major road are good to drive on in many areas. You can find almost anything here that you can find in a first world country in the bigger cities, Bangkok especially. The list for "YES" that they are still a third world country is much, much bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Yes is it. For many reasons. Roads and traffic Look at any utility power pole its a mess of cables and almost always overloaded Bureaucracy Food storage - just look at how meat is presented at any market Building standard or lack theroff General workmanship on anything is poor, good work is the exception not the norm In terms of sales, service or anything involving work people are reactive and not proactive There thats a start. I still like it here though And add to that, rampant, pervasive corruption though all levels of society. The complete inability to maintain a stable government: Third World is being nice. Banana republic? Yep! Edited August 24, 2015 by connda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maderaroja Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 What's a third world country? Originally there was the Old World, the New World and the Third World. So yes it's a third world country. It is a newly industrialised country. You seem to be confusing third world with inferiority in some way. There is a United Nations definition for Third World Countries. You should look it up. Yes, Thailand is a Third World Country as opposed to a Developing Country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 OK Mr Lostoday, I'm glad you like me, but I did not say everyone in Thailand had a low mentality, what I said was the majority of the Thai people have a low mentality, and I'm going to stand by that. I will put it another way IMO, about 70% of the Thai people have a low mentality. just look at the driving and riding for an example. Also my wife is just the same as you describe your wife, apart maybe from when you say "big girl" you could mean she is tall, or fat. In my case she is tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I like you Mr. Possom I was just trying to make a point. It is not nice or right to call a whole country, educated and not, stupid and expect that not to be a bashing post/thread. My wife is a big girl. Big education, big job, big fist and big heart. If you told her she and everyone else in Thailand had a low mentality she would hit you in the face no matter how big and smart you look. So ... people with "high mentality" punch people in the face for expressing an opinion. Got it. If you call my momma and poppa and my whole family and all my children stupid what do you think gonna happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 3rd world or not...it sure beats where I grew up back in New York.....circa 1955 to 1970. That as in a government housing project...where nobody worked, everyone did drugs, and you could not go out at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiver Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) I don't think a binary answer would be an accurate answer, but if that's your request then I'd say no it's not 3rd world.We have 1Gbit internet and Lamborghinis, tap water and electricity (and at the same time people living on the street - but then so do UN countries). Okay things could be improved, like reliability of some of the services, quality of some of the roads (i.e. fixing the potholes with something that won't disappear the next time the monsoon season arrives), actual sidewalks without sinkholes. I went for a stroll today and noticed that the nearest main road to me has a completely new surface of tarmac that wasn't there last night. I love how they collect the trash so many times a week and don't fine you GBP200 for putting out the wrong coloured wheely bin on a certain day. I try to embrace the best of it and roll with the rest of it. We all have our frustration days for sure, but there are other days that make it a pleasure to be here. Edited August 24, 2015 by Shiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Like I said before "awa an gies peace" Can you say it a few more times? Maybe I'll get it. OK, it is a Scottish way of saying "get lost", in English it would say "away and give me some peace". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Thailand is still very much a third world country and, at this point, is sinking rather than rising to the next level. Some of the things that keep it third world are: very poor educational system, very poor legal system, very poor management at the national level and locally with grossly bloated, corrupt and ineffective bureaucracy, extreme corruption in all areas of government both national and local, military dictatorship as current form of government, poor infrastructure and construction standards in regard to roads, buildings, drinking water, water, electrical, and cable management, local services and maintenance, big gap between how the haves and the have nots are treated in all aspects of life, poor law enforcement everywhere with badly trained, paid, and managed police force, poor tax system, power held by the few rather than the many, and freedoms now being curtailed rather than expanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeThai Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Your completely Spot On my friend...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huawei Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It's as third world as you want it to be. Live in nice area in Bangkok, great restaurants,great pubs,great hospitals, good supermarkets ,good international school for the kid. All my neighbours speak English...safe ( ish) ..convenient. Can deal with the rest..( except the driving!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiver Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Like I said before "awa an gies peace" Can you say it a few more times? Maybe I'll get it. OK, it is a Scottish way of saying "get lost", in English it would say "away and give me some peace". I would say that was more the Geordie area. From my neck of the woods we have a much more blunt way of putting it, but I can't write it here as they delete expletives Edited August 24, 2015 by Shiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) I like you Mr. Possom I was just trying to make a point. It is not nice or right to call a whole country, educated and not, stupid and expect that not to be a bashing post/thread. My wife is a big girl. Big education, big job, big fist and big heart. If you told her she and everyone else in Thailand had a low mentality she would hit you in the face no matter how big and smart you look. So ... people with "high mentality" punch people in the face for expressing an opinion. Got it. If you call my momma and poppa and my whole family and all my children stupid what do you think gonna happen? I'd guess if they were of low mentality (instinctual, knee jerk responses) ... they'd punch me in the face. If they were of a higher mentality...they'd probably ignore me. Edited August 24, 2015 by Fullstop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 What's a third world country? Originally there was the Old World, the New World and the Third World. So yes it's a third world country. It is a newly industrialised country. You seem to be confusing third world with inferiority in some way. There is a United Nations definition for Third World Countries. You should look it up. Yes, Thailand is a Third World Country as opposed to a Developing Country. Nope. http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/policy/wesp/wesp_current/2014wesp_country_classification.pdf Seriously. It's an outdated term that makes you look completely out of touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza40 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yes I am. I thought that was the way it was. I was speaking to a well educated Farang, The colour of her skin was in what way important to the thread? What was her nationality, Thai, Polish French, English, etc.? Where was she educated and to what level? For all we know she was a redneck hillbilly from Alabama Sorry, I don't automatically assume white girls are experts, just because they're white! Oh dear. A touch of misogyny creeping in? I'll have to sool Julia Gillard on to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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