Why do so many farang buy property in their wifes name?

[Sutty]

When I married in UK some 39 years ago my wife was a bar girl/maid. I fell head over heals in love with her from day one we married in two weeks and lived and loved each other till the day she died. Funny so many people back then saying the same old drivel as some say on here "it will never last she's a bar girl what's wrong with you" In my case I DON'T GIVE A TOSS what others think or say second time around I'm just as happy as I was then. One happy content ferang with his head ruling not his heart. And yes I have a house and land in wife's name as I did with first wife. Those of you who have been burnt please don't tar all Thai ladies with the same brush as you are as much to blame as your ex wife's.

[MAJIC]

Excellent! Another lame ''Why do so many farang.......?" Troll.....

Next week: "Why do so many Farang marry sex workers?"........

And the week after :why do young Thai women marry old Farangs?

[JDGRUEN]

There is a simple way out ... just make sure you never have enough money to buy the land and put the house on it. Play that role until you get a wife ... It is HARD to do - I will offer testimony ...

I do not think one needs to be a cagey manipulator... but even in Thailand if it is the promise of a 5 Million Baht house and the land it sits on - that is the primary deal maker... Then It is very risky business. And while risky in Western Countries it is more risky business here IMO. I have a friend that it happened to in less than a year. ... 5 million baht home plus millions more for furnishings and landscaping ... cars etc. GONE in 12 months -- OUT she said and he could not find a way to stop it ...

I work to find a good woman - with sincerity on both sides ... I have found some few but then things get in the way ... I do not suggest that one treat every Thai woman as a potential gold digger ... but look for signs. If she only wants a flashy holiday instead of good times, if every thing that occurs turns into a money consuming project. That every planned 'little' party turns into a huge cash outlay,,, that your statements about limits of expenditures are ignored as if not said ... and on and on...

Examples: A neighborhood get together - just a handful of people - impromptu - 5000 baht ... for what? Girlfriend get together 15,000 Baht - Why even needed ... I guess there is no such equivalent of a covered dish party? Tried to hire a handyman for a few needed projects ... nope ... not possible unless I hired a supervisor ... I told her that I was the supervisor and the simple jobs did not need any supervision ... between my Thai and her native Thai -- I think we could get the point across... and I planned on working right along side ... BUT NOPE ,,, not possible... Didn't start the projects.

I stepped back -- took a look at the needed home renovations and the time frame and the strong indicators of problems and went and got on a train...

[Thongkorn]

My Wife bought land with a House on it, But she paid every baht for it, All from her hard work getting up at 5am to start work at 6 am and finishing at 5pm at night,

[SheungWan]

While the stars shine brightly every night, true love will know its own reward.

[Sabaidee Mai]

My wife bough our home and farm, she did not want me to pay for it and think she just wanted me for money.

[nithisa78]

It may seem strange to you....but if you are married and have offspring with your Thai wife you may want them to have a future after you pass away.

Some people may have lived with a Thai wife for 30 or 40 years.... and actually care for and love her and their children.

A million Baht providing for them a place to live after you pass away is a good choice....the money will mean absolutely nothing to you once you pass away anyhow.

You came into this world naked, without a procession to your name, and covered in slime....you will probably go out of this world the same way.

Caring for someone, doesn't mean they care for you.

No matter how much you delude yourself.

A million bhat? good luck finding a woman that will settle for a house worth that little these days.

Not to mention, I would like to ensure I don't leave this world early, shortly after spending 10Mbht on a house for a woman.

I love and care about ME.

And I know that love is true!

Karma can be such a bitch!

Good luck! You're gonna need it with that attitude!

Sir, Peace. That poster will need more than luck.

[nithisa78]

It may seem strange to you....but if you are married and have offspring with your Thai wife you may want them to have a future after you pass away.

Some people may have lived with a Thai wife for 30 or 40 years.... and actually care for and love her and their children.

A million Baht providing for them a place to live after you pass away is a good choice....the money will mean absolutely nothing to you once you pass away anyhow.

You came into this world naked, without a procession to your name, and covered in slime....you will probably go out of this world the same way.

Caring for someone, doesn't mean they care for you.

No matter how much you delude yourself.

A million bhat? good luck finding a woman that will settle for a house worth that little these days.

Not to mention, I would like to ensure I don't leave this world early, shortly after spending 10Mbht on a house for a woman.

I love and care about ME.

And I know that love is true!

Karma can be such a bitch!

Good luck! You're gonna need it with that attitude!

That is a very aberrant mind or mindless. Self-centered and unable to love, not even themselves.

Lord have mercy and get them out of Thailand.

Edited September 5, 2015 by nithisa78

[slipperylobster]

One reason, its easier to get your Wife/Partner a Tourist Visa for visiting other countries, as this is one of the stipulations that other Countries ask...

So, its easier, if the wife/partner has property means that she/he has a good reason to come back to ''Thailand''...

So you not only give her money and property in Thailand,

But you empower her to claim your assets in your home country.

Brilliant, completely brilliant!

Thats like a candle burning itself from both ends..eh?

It seems that one or two of the posters here have forgotten that guys marry girls/ladies for love and to spend their lives together. If you don't agree with that then just don't get married but don't deride those who make their own choice.

Exactly...marry for love.... not property. I agree with that.

Many people in the world do not own..they rent...and women still love them.

A few space cadets even mentioned renting women..which shows where their wives came from.

I am referring to renting a home..as a viable option, until Thailand sees fit to treat us as equals.

It is easy to see by the sharp-worded, defensive posturing...that more than a few have bought into a bad deal.

Edited September 5, 2015 by slipperylobster

[theguyfromanotherforum]

It may seem strange to you....but if you are married and have offspring with your Thai wife you may want them to have a future after you pass away.

Some people may have lived with a Thai wife for 30 or 40 years.... and actually care for and love her and their children.

A million Baht providing for them a place to live after you pass away is a good choice....the money will mean absolutely nothing to you once you pass away anyhow.

You came into this world naked, without a procession to your name, and covered in slime....you will probably go out of this world the same way.

Caring for someone, doesn't mean they care for you.

No matter how much you delude yourself.

A million bhat? good luck finding a woman that will settle for a house worth that little these days.

Not to mention, I would like to ensure I don't leave this world early, shortly after spending 10Mbht on a house for a woman.

I love and care about ME.

And I know that love is true!

Karma can be such a bitch!

Good luck! You're gonna need it with that attitude!

Karma. You gotta be kidding me.

So, how much did you plonk away on something that you don't own?

If you want to build a house for your wife and family that's fine, but the Thai government should at least acknowledge that you are partial owner to something that you paid in full. As of right now, you have no claim to land or to a house. If you get sick and you need to pay for hospital bills or some other emergency do you have the right to sell that house like most normal people do in the west, or are you at the mercy of your loving Thai family? I am afraid you know the answer all too well, but you choose the ignorant option. It's ok, we all have out insecurities (myself included), but experience and not "karma" teaches us survival instincts.

Karma. I sure am having a good laff reading some posts here.

[awayego]

It may seem strange to you....but if you are married and have offspring with your Thai wife you may want them to have a future after you pass away.

Some people may have lived with a Thai wife for 30 or 40 years.... and actually care for and love her and their children.

A million Baht providing for them a place to live after you pass away is a good choice....the money will mean absolutely nothing to you once you pass away anyhow.

You came into this world naked, without a procession to your name, and covered in slime....you will probably go out of this world the same way.

Caring for someone, doesn't mean they care for you.

No matter how much you delude yourself.

A million bhat? good luck finding a woman that will settle for a house worth that little these days.

Not to mention, I would like to ensure I don't leave this world early, shortly after spending 10Mbht on a house for a woman.

I love and care about ME.

And I know that love is true!

Karma can be such a bitch!

Good luck! You're gonna need it with that attitude!

Karma. You gotta be kidding me.

So, how much did you plonk away on something that you don't own?

If you want to build a house for your wife and family that's fine, but the Thai government should at least acknowledge that you are partial owner to something that you paid in full. As of right now, you have no claim to land or to a house. If you get sick and you need to pay for hospital bills or some other emergency do you have the right to sell that house like most normal people do in the west, or are you at the mercy of your loving Thai family? I am afraid you know the answer all too well, but you choose the ignorant option. It's ok, we all have out insecurities (myself included), but experience and not "karma" teaches us survival instincts.

Karma. I sure am having a good laff reading some posts here.

You don't know me. You don't know my wife. You don't know her/my family. You don't know anything about my experience.

And yet you presume so much.

You are wrong on so many levels.

I am 67 and have enough experience of life, including life in Thailand, to have have learned much from that experience.

OK, maybe I am one of the lucky ones but my wife, our son and my wife's family are the bedrock of my life and whatever I choose to do for them is my business and not yours!

Peace and love man!

[thaiduncankk]

How many of the posters payed 100℅ cash for their house in the West when they married their wife ?

My guess is none.

Buy a house with a mortgage, as is the case in most Western countries, and you cannot obtain the deeds until it is fully paid for. Seems a good way to go in my opinion.

I know of one affluent acquaintance who was buying a house here on finance for himself and his 'HiSo' (I hate that word) girlfriend. She had a good job as a radio presenter.

As soon as he married her the demands started, pay the house off in full, buy me a brand new car etc...

This was after he had paid a hefty dowry because of her so called 'status' in Thai society !

He sensibly walked away and cut his losses.

So it can happen to anyone here, not just men marrying bar girls.

In my eyes she was no different to anyone else, so where this 'HiSo' cr*p comes from, it baffles me.

[Mudcrab]

It may seem strange to you....but if you are married and have offspring with your Thai wife you may want them to have a future after you pass away.

Some people may have lived with a Thai wife for 30 or 40 years.... and actually care for and love her and their children.

A million Baht providing for them a place to live after you pass away is a good choice....the money will mean absolutely nothing to you once you pass away anyhow.

You came into this world naked, without a procession to your name, and covered in slime....you will probably go out of this world the same way.

Caring for someone, doesn't mean they care for you.

No matter how much you delude yourself.

A million bhat? good luck finding a woman that will settle for a house worth that little these days.

Not to mention, I would like to ensure I don't leave this world early, shortly after spending 10Mbht on a house for a woman.

I love and care about ME.

And I know that love is true!

Interesting insights that can be gleaned from peoples posts, over time.

Try googling NPD and then look into a mirror.

[jamie2009]

It's always going to very difficult to know if the 'girlfriend' is genuine, some one in general who is half your age. I don't believe that these Thai girls actually love their partners. I have a lady who cooks, cleans launders my cloths by hand, said washing machines don't clean them properly, the perfect little house wife. I am 63, she is 36, I don't give her any money apart from a few hundred baht for cloths when we go to the Market. I pay for all her toiletries and supply the food, takes her for ever going round the supermarket as she will always look for the bargains.

She never shows any emotion but is this aThai thing, she might not see her family for a few weeks and they just look at each other when they meet up. She will send me cartoon messages online about her feelings for me, do I believe them, to a certain point. I would never buy a property in Thailand, rent only as I might want to travel at some point. Would I leave her any money, possibly, I think she has a very good heart but I some times wish she would show her feelings, if she has any for me which might convince me I am not a 'meal ticket' then I would consider her genuine.

The majority of Thais are notoriously good liars, I dont think half the time they know they are doing it,must be inbred in them, at the end of the day we are 'walking ATMs ' and millionaires to them.

[somchaiq]

A Foreigner can own a House, but not the Land it is build on. How can his wife kick him out of HIS House? How could she even sell it? Best way is she owns Land, He owns House and a contract about what is happen if one of them dies or want a divorce.

[chiang mai]

It's always going to very difficult to know if the 'girlfriend' is genuine, some one in general who is half your age. I don't believe that these Thai girls actually love their partners. I have a lady who cooks, cleans launders my cloths by hand, said washing machines don't clean them properly, the perfect little house wife. I am 63, she is 36, I don't give her any money apart from a few hundred baht for cloths when we go to the Market. I pay for all her toiletries and supply the food, takes her for ever going round the supermarket as she will always look for the bargains.

She never shows any emotion but is this aThai thing, she might not see her family for a few weeks and they just look at each other when they meet up. She will send me cartoon messages online about her feelings for me, do I believe them, to a certain point. I would never buy a property in Thailand, rent only as I might want to travel at some point. Would I leave her any money, possibly, I think she has a very good heart but I some times wish she would show her feelings, if she has any for me which might convince me I am not a 'meal ticket' then I would consider her genuine.

The majority of Thais are notoriously good liars, I dont think half the time they know they are doing it,must be inbred in them, at the end of the day we are 'walking ATMs ' and millionaires to them.

Your post strikes me as though you are slowly beginning to understand things here but that you've got quite some ways to go, keep at it.

[whiteman]

Buy it put a 30 year lease on it in your name and get the right girl the 30 year lease is there to protect me in case she dies b4 me as you know in Thailand one can die by many ways accidents on a normal day

[fish fingers]

back to the original OP question

I wouldn't marry someone I didn't trust or want to share your money with .. but I keep most of my assets in the UK just in case of unforeseen stuff

[1FinickyOne]

I gave it as a gift for my wife - I expect nothing in return. She is secure and happy. I have no regrets. If I were to leave tomorrow, no regrets. It was a nice thing to do for a nice person who I respect. Have you never given something to somebody and not wanted anything in return?

[carerra]

I am a little surprised that no-one mention " use fruit". I am married to a younger Thaigirl and we have a son. I bought a house. That is in my name. The land I bought in her name, and when registered the land at Land Office we at the same time registered a use fruit on the land that secures my right to live in the house the rest of my life. What happens when I die depends on what kind of agreement I have with my wife and if I/ we have registered a will. I am mostly interested in making sure I can live in the house if we divorce or if she should die before me ( not very likely, but anyway). To be sure these things are done in a proper way, use a good lawyer.

Carerra

[MaeJoMTB]

Please take into consideration that not everyone marries a prostitute (or a former prostitute). There's a life outside bars.

Like in other countries, there are local people having good education (studied abroad as well), good family background and good jobs.

Too funny (or too sad) how some foreigners think about Thai people.

I don't think it about Thai people,

I think it about women who marry guys 20+ years older.

(Actually,to tell the truth, I think it about women who marry guys 10+ years older, but don't want to appear too cruel)

[MaeJoMTB]

You're forgetting that for many the buying of a house is part of the deal. For example, said foreigner 50+ gets to marry said woman 20 years younger if said farang buys a house for here/her family and pays a monthly stipend to take care of said woman's kids. In return he gets to fondle a young woman every night, and someone to cook and clean up after him as he ages. This probably works quite well, until the woman realises she doesn't need to be fondled anymore to keep the house, car and any money she's saved up, and that she doesn't need to wait on him hand and foot, or be nice to him anymore. And so the problems begin...

Mine bought the house on a 30 year home loan,

No fondle = no house repayment!

[anotheruser]

Well if most Farang are anything like I am; we do it because the thrill of taking our entire life savings and putting it all on red at the casino has simply lost it's thrill. So in order to achieve the thrill that is anything close to that experience we are almost compelled to do it. Anybody else feel the same way? Except being gay I get the added thrill of not actually being married just to make it more risky.

Edited September 5, 2015 by anotheruser

[jamie2009]

It's always going to very difficult to know if the 'girlfriend' is genuine, some one in general who is half your age. I don't believe that these Thai girls actually love their partners. I have a lady who cooks, cleans launders my cloths by hand, said washing machines don't clean them properly, the perfect little house wife. I am 63, she is 36, I don't give her any money apart from a few hundred baht for cloths when we go to the Market. I pay for all her toiletries and supply the food, takes her for ever going round the supermarket as she will always look for the bargains.

She never shows any emotion but is this aThai thing, she might not see her family for a few weeks and they just look at each other when they meet up. She will send me cartoon messages online about her feelings for me, do I believe them, to a certain point. I would never buy a property in Thailand, rent only as I might want to travel at some point. Would I leave her any money, possibly, I think she has a very good heart but I some times wish she would show her feelings, if she has any for me which might convince me I am not a 'meal ticket' then I would consider her genuine.

The majority of Thais are notoriously good liars, I dont think half the time they know they are doing it,must be inbred in them, at the end of the day we are 'walking ATMs ' and millionaires to them.

Your post strikes me as though you are slowly beginning to understand things here but that you've got quite some ways to go, keep at it.

There are some very cynical Farangs in Thailand all with their own stories to tell, mostly about being cheated on by their 'girlfriend' I can't get my head round why any one is prepared to pay his 'girlfriend' x amount of baht a month. A friend of my girl has an Oz boyfriend who can only make it over here 3 weeks a year due to work commitments, he has bought her a truck, she doesn't work lives in Isaan so I assume he is funding her. Maybe I am hard hearted or could be sensible some thing which a lot of Farangs are not, you have to learn about the Thai culture very quickly or you will soon have an empty bank account, me cynical, no, realistic.

[KhunG]

I am a little surprised that no-one mention " use fruit". I am married to a younger Thaigirl and we have a son. I bought a house. That is in my name. The land I bought in her name, and when registered the land at Land Office we at the same time registered a use fruit on the land that secures my right to live in the house the rest of my life. What happens when I die depends on what kind of agreement I have with my wife and if I/ we have registered a will. I am mostly interested in making sure I can live in the house if we divorce or if she should die before me ( not very likely, but anyway). To be sure these things are done in a proper way, use a good lawyer.

Carerra

Technically called "Usufruct" I have the same, not to protect me from my wife, but from any relatives in the extremely unlikely event that she pre-deceases me. Through wills our children (dual-citizens) will inherit the land. I absolutely agree, use a good lawyer.

[chiang mai]

You're forgetting that for many the buying of a house is part of the deal. For example, said foreigner 50+ gets to marry said woman 20 years younger if said farang buys a house for here/her family and pays a monthly stipend to take care of said woman's kids. In return he gets to fondle a young woman every night, and someone to cook and clean up after him as he ages. This probably works quite well, until the woman realises she doesn't need to be fondled anymore to keep the house, car and any money she's saved up, and that she doesn't need to wait on him hand and foot, or be nice to him anymore. And so the problems begin...

Mine bought the house on a 30 year home loan,

No fondle = no house repayment!

So you pay for sex, how ugly, surely there must be a better way.

[steven100]

I gave it as a gift for my wife - I expect nothing in return. She is secure and happy. I have no regrets. If I were to leave tomorrow, no regrets. It was a nice thing to do for a nice person who I respect. Have you never given something to somebody and not wanted anything in return?

correct and a nice feeling for a relationship.

OP ; so you are one of these hard line cases that I'll give you nothing but in return I want a life, a family maybe, and a house to live in , and you take care of me but I'm not getting a house in your name ...

But I don't believe in helping you or the family because this is Thailand and I have been led to believe that relationships are different here ...

[MaeJoMTB]

Well if most Farang are anything like I am; we do it because the thrill of taking our entire life savings and putting it all on red at the casino has simply lost it's thrill. So in order to achieve the thrill that is anything close to that experience we are almost compelled to do it. Anybody else feel the same way? Except being gay I get the added thrill of not actually being married just to make it more risky.

Strangely enough I know several foreigner/Thai gay couples where a house was purchased.

When the relationship ended, the Thai guys gave the house back.

(One gay foreigner died unexpectedly, and the Thai guy sold the house and sent the money to his dead partners mum)

Nicking the house appears to be a girl thing.

[anotheruser]

Well if most Farang are anything like I am; we do it because the thrill of taking our entire life savings and putting it all on red at the casino has simply lost it's thrill. So in order to achieve the thrill that is anything close to that experience we are almost compelled to do it. Anybody else feel the same way? Except being gay I get the added thrill of not actually being married just to make it more risky.

Strangely enough I know several foreigner/Thai gay couples where a house was purchased.

When the relationship ended, the Thai guys gave the house back.

(One gay foreigner died unexpectedly, and the Thai guy sold the house and sent the money to his dead partners mum)

Nicking the house appears to be a girl thing.

The girls do seem to have a reputation of being more ruthless. I see what my straight friends deal with in regards to the dragons errrm I mean sweet jewels they marry and am thankful I am gay. Anyway regardless of sex I still make the contention of I got tired of all the sure winners I got from playing it all on roulette. After awhile I began to feel complacent, if not suicidal. Now in my current life I may lack some security but I feel richer none the less to take risks others wouldn't

[MaeJoMTB]

You're forgetting that for many the buying of a house is part of the deal. For example, said foreigner 50+ gets to marry said woman 20 years younger if said farang buys a house for here/her family and pays a monthly stipend to take care of said woman's kids. In return he gets to fondle a young woman every night, and someone to cook and clean up after him as he ages. This probably works quite well, until the woman realises she doesn't need to be fondled anymore to keep the house, car and any money she's saved up, and that she doesn't need to wait on him hand and foot, or be nice to him anymore. And so the problems begin...

Mine bought the house on a 30 year home loan,

No fondle = no house repayment!

So you pay for sex, how ugly, surely there must be a better way.

I've had sex with women I loved (and who professed to love me), I've had sex with women I paid (sometimes in a straight cash transaction).

The paid for sex has always been CONSIDERABLY better than the free sex.

I admit, it shouldn't be that way, but in my experience it was.

Probably my biggest disappointment in life!

Sometimes,I go out to bars and buy the girls drinks (not often at my age), they flatter me, squeeze against me and suggest rude things (no sex).

When was the last time the woman you love did that sort of stuff for you?

(The usual answer is not since the day she moved in)

It's funny that those who profess to love you, generally make no effort to flirt or stimulate you.

Maybe I just chose to live with the wrong women?

Edited September 5, 2015 by MaeJoMTB