rooster59 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Thai Premier asks press to help create understanding on reformBANGKOK, 14 November 2015 (NNT) – Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha has called on all members of the press to present news that will not deepen social and political conflicts.Gen Prayut said during this national televised address that everything was moving towards reform and general elections; therefore, members of the press should help the government disseminate information that allows the public to understand the transition of the country.The Premier said he never wanted to violate freedom of the press. What the government has always done is ask for cooperation, he added.He also asked news stations, columnists, and journalists to be extra careful with cases that are considered threats to national security, given that these cases are very sensitive and could send the wrong message. -- NNT 2015-11-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Another not so veiled warning from someone who ' doesn't want to violate press freedom ' so invites co-operation the definition of which is whatever he decides. I'm not suggesting the media should be allowed to run riot, print rubbish etc but if they report accurate but negative stories about the govt they aren't co-operating ? Edited November 14, 2015 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The Premier said he never wanted to violate freedom of the press. What the government has always done is ask for cooperation, he added. Censorship at it's best, ... just one big fat lie... OK, make that 2 big fat lies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 What are the reforms?......does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Hardly an encouraging sign from someone who for six weeks denied that a Coup would happen, you can only create an understanding when you get an honest answers and that is what Thailand isn't getting................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 does he really believe what he say's? he was asking people 'are you Thai'? this week with the inference that if you ARE you should support him otherwise you are a non-Thai i hate all this nationalistic stuff from whencesoever it comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Mr. PM, how about YOU actually outline exactly what the reforms will be and the timeline for implementation. I would be particularily interested in hearing exactly what reforms are planned for the police, judicial system AND the military. Complete with a timeline. Without those 3 reforms being at the top of your reform agenda, you are only blowing smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 What are the reforms?......does anyone know? Exactly. Why are the press focusing on non-issues like armoured cars instead of what is going on with the reforms ?. They are insignificant compared to the political transformation which should be taking place and it's impact on the future of the country. I see micro-criticism of every little thing the government do - even deliberate misinterpretation if Prayuth is sarcastic because he is fed up with them. The only time reform is ever mentioned is if they can snipe at one specific point. But nothing about the progress on the rest of the reforms and analysis of what it would mean to the average Thai. The media here are as full of cronies as everywhere else. They are a disgrace to their profession and that is exactly Prayuths point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Mr. PM, how about YOU actually outline exactly what the reforms will be and the timeline for implementation. I would be particularily interested in hearing exactly what reforms are planned for the police, judicial system AND the military. Complete with a timeline. Without those 3 reforms being at the top of your reform agenda, you are only blowing smoke. No chance he can do that in this time frame. The priority must be to get a government who are there to serve the country, not some corrupt master. They will then make the legislation to sort out the others. Not going to happen though. Few people actually want reform : they are all on the take and want it to stay like that. But he has to try. And don't you think the newspapers should be giving you that information ?. Did you wonder why they are not ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 What are the reforms?......does anyone know?You will never find out as "it may deepen social and political conflict or threaten national security" if you were to find out. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Former education minister Somsak Prisanananthakul was cleared of unusual wealth charge after the National Legislative Assembly today voted not to impeach him. Reforms? We don't need no stinking reforms. Who are the NLA, oh yeah, them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Mr. PM, how about YOU actually outline exactly what the reforms will be and the timeline for implementation. I would be particularily interested in hearing exactly what reforms are planned for the police, judicial system AND the military. Complete with a timeline. Without those 3 reforms being at the top of your reform agenda, you are only blowing smoke. No chance he can do that in this time frame. The priority must be to get a government who are there to serve the country, not some corrupt master. They will then make the legislation to sort out the others. Not going to happen though. Few people actually want reform : they are all on the take and want it to stay like that. But he has to try. And don't you think the newspapers should be giving you that information ?. Did you wonder why they are not ?. If you dont know what reforms he has in mind then how do you know he is trying to do it? Has he ever thought of actually telling reporters his goal? If he does they will report it. But as he doesnt all they can do is state what they find. In any western democracy all press find smallest fault in govt and report it. Thats normal and is pretty much the only thing that occassionaly keeps a govt in line. Without the nitpicking a govt will run roughshod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Mr. PM, how about YOU actually outline exactly what the reforms will be and the timeline for implementation. I would be particularily interested in hearing exactly what reforms are planned for the police, judicial system AND the military. Complete with a timeline. Without those 3 reforms being at the top of your reform agenda, you are only blowing smoke. No chance he can do that in this time frame. The priority must be to get a government who are there to serve the country, not some corrupt master. They will then make the legislation to sort out the others. Not going to happen though. Few people actually want reform : they are all on the take and want it to stay like that. But he has to try. And don't you think the newspapers should be giving you that information ?. Did you wonder why they are not ?. There are probably two compelling reasons why the Thai press has not published much on the progress or substance of the reforms: 1) The Thai press has a long history of being curtailed by governments; the current government has definitely reined in the press. Therefor, the press is hesitant to publish information that would be considered critical of the Junta. (and the Thai press is somewhat incompetent at investigation and analysis) 2) There has been no significant progress on defining the reforms. The NRC failed in this mission. Their only output was a list of potential reforms that found its way into the draft Charter. But the list was so long and disorganized, that it was really not usable. Now the NRSC has the job of defining the reforms. Based on their statements to date, I believe they are very much focused on the "process" (forming committees, having meetings), rather than the results. I believe this will lead to yet another failure. In many ways, the responsibility for this lies with the PM. Despite an 18 month period of orientation, he has never presented a cogent vision for reform. Edited November 14, 2015 by phoenixdoglover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 does he really believe what he say's? he was asking people 'are you Thai'? this week with the inference that if you ARE you should support him otherwise you are a non-Thai i hate all this nationalistic stuff from whencesoever it comes I am no psychologist, but I think it could be a case of him compartmentalising events, so yes he does believe what he says AT THE TIME - Doublethink and all that. Move him on to the next situation and he thinks something different. We are all guilty of it it to a lesser or greater degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldiablo Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) What are the reforms?......does anyone know?The reforms thus far have been:Reforming the lottery system. Hahaha Reforming the education system to allow less learning time for students and more play time as well as working towards eliminating the need for foreign English teachers in order to keep the population dumb. Another hahaha. Edited November 14, 2015 by ldiablo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siammodels Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Threats to national security ? Where talking about elections here and the CDC that is all the people want to see happen The voting system still unclear ? The rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 What are the reforms?......does anyone know? Many have asked, none have answered. It's pretty obvious that unstated reforms were Suthep's excuse for his power grab, and Prayut's excuse to remain in power. There are no real reforms, just a desire for unfettered power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 What are the reforms?......does anyone know? Exactly. Why are the press focusing on non-issues like armoured cars instead of what is going on with the reforms ?. They are insignificant compared to the political transformation which should be taking place and it's impact on the future of the country. I see micro-criticism of every little thing the government do - even deliberate misinterpretation if Prayuth is sarcastic because he is fed up with them. The only time reform is ever mentioned is if they can snipe at one specific point. But nothing about the progress on the rest of the reforms and analysis of what it would mean to the average Thai. The media here are as full of cronies as everywhere else. They are a disgrace to their profession and that is exactly Prayuths point. "Why are the press focusing on non-issues like armoured cars instead of what is going on with the reforms ?" Probably because there is no clear statement of what the reforms are. The press can't report what they don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelonius Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Mr. PM, how about YOU actually outline exactly what the reforms will be and the timeline for implementation. I would be particularily interested in hearing exactly what reforms are planned for the police, judicial system AND the military. Complete with a timeline. Without those 3 reforms being at the top of your reform agenda, you are only blowing smoke. Agreed, here's 3 reforms wrt the military that I think we can quite confidently predict will not be getting the junta's blessings; Re-establish Civilian Oversight over the Defence Policy and budget Eliminating Organised crime in the military Establish Clear Criteria for Promotions to avoid nepotism as suggested by the latest report by Transparency International http://government.defenceindex.org/countries/thailand/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 What are the reforms?......does anyone know? It seems if you are not a middle class or privileged Thai and living in Bangkok, you have know way of understanding. A dear Taiwanese friend who speaks Thai and is connected with the next president of Taiwan says she was told she will never understand Thailand's problems. The reforms are whatever they can get away with, TIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Ok, if what he says is true all he needs to do now is produce some reforms to show to the Press so they can show progress,,, so far i see none. I know a lot of people will see this as another "threat" to the press but I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. I wait to see what cooperation he asks for and what the press can publicise to show he is meeting the agenda of implementing national reforms to ready the country for a return to democracy. Fingers crossed,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 What are the reforms?......does anyone know? Many have asked, none have answered. It's pretty obvious that unstated reforms were Suthep's excuse for his power grab, and Prayut's excuse to remain in power. There are no real reforms, just a desire for unfettered power. I fear you are right but I so hope you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 does he really believe what he say's? he was asking people 'are you Thai'? this week with the inference that if you ARE you should support him otherwise you are a non-Thai i hate all this nationalistic stuff from whencesoever it comes I am no psychologist, but I think it could be a case of him compartmentalising events, so yes he does believe what he says AT THE TIME - Doublethink and all that. Move him on to the next situation and he thinks something different. We are all guilty of it it to a lesser or greater degree. There may be a medical term for Prayut's behavior. It's called Dissociative identity disorder (aka multiple personality disorder) It is a "mental disorder characterized by the appearance of at least two distinct and relatively lasting dissociated personality states that alternately control a person's behavior. Thus, there is never an issue of contradiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 After 18 months it has become plainly obvious that this man is way out of his depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Mr. PM, how about YOU actually outline exactly what the reforms will be and the timeline for implementation. I would be particularily interested in hearing exactly what reforms are planned for the police, judicial system AND the military. Complete with a timeline. Without those 3 reforms being at the top of your reform agenda, you are only blowing smoke. No chance he can do that in this time frame. The priority must be to get a government who are there to serve the country, not some corrupt master. They will then make the legislation to sort out the others. Not going to happen though. Few people actually want reform : they are all on the take and want it to stay like that. But he has to try. And don't you think the newspapers should be giving you that information ?. Did you wonder why they are not ?. Sir John he has been in power for nearly 18 months and we still don't know what they want to reform and how. If you go back to his statements just after the coup you will find that reforms was at the top of the list. Yet Sir John 18 months later we still don't know what he wants to reform. So what has he done on one of his top priorities in the last 18 months ? Why Sir if it was one of his top priorities has he done nothing but putting his people into powerful positions while demoting people that have done nothing wrong. Sir John how do a government serve its people if they are so far removed from them as this government are ? How do a government serve its people if they govern without transparency ? In this regard sir think about how China got the double track rail projects and Japan the HST projects, there was no tender process followed. Sir John how can the newspapers give us his reform priorities if he hasn't decided on them yet ? He spends hours on the TV but has never clearly spelled out the reforms and the processes involved, so how can the newspapers inform us ? He likes to talk as you like to write on here but its not to say that either of you makes any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champneys Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Yes the reform is to make it so that the previous government cannot win power again. Until the current junta is satisfied then there will never be an election by the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 What are the reforms?......does anyone know? I am old school show me don't tell me. Show me that your fighting corruption and quit talking it to death. Where are the corruption lists that were drawn up what has been done. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 "...will not deepen social and political conflicts..." Only one person I know of to blame for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The Premier said he never wanted to violate freedom of the press. It sounds like someone is running out of banana supplies. Now he’s singing a different tune: The PM invites the media to take dictation… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 asks press to help create understanding on reform... how to create understanding if there are not any reforms? This man lives in a different - not real - world. However he believes what he's saying. Can't he hear the laughter behind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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