Permission of stay only 30 DAYS for certain nationalities with a valid Tourist Visa

[oncearugge]

There are many visa options. ........

1. Tourist visas , single or multiple entry

2. Non Immigrant "O" visa in many categories

3. Non immigrant "B" visas for those intending to work or undertake business.

4. Ed visas for those who intend to study.

5 O/A long stay visas for those aged 50+

6 The Thai Elite visa which is valid for 5+ years .

There is no shortage of choice .....................

Yeah well if tourist would not work anymore, I'd start "working" at my own company. Would just need to decide if I'd be the director or...i dunno...the tea boy. Although it has to be a job Thais can't do apparently.

Can Thai people serve tea?

You could indeed start your own Company.

Do not forget there are minimal Capitalisation requirements, the need for a Thai partner(s) and the company would have to employ four Thai people.

Doubt a work permit would be issued to a Farang tea boy !

[lkv]

Actually oncearugge you tell me via PM where I can get a 3 year multiple nonB for business purposes without a WP and I'll buy you a drink

[oncearugge]

Actually oncearugge you tell me via PM where I can get a 3 year multiple nonB for business purposes without a WP and I'll buy you a drink

Discussion of potentially illegal activity is not permitted on the forum.

[lkv]

Not talking about illegal activity, if certain conditions are met in some countries you would apparently be issued with a 3 year multiple entry Non B for short visits with employment prohibited.

I don't know exactly who or if anybody gets them, but just today i was browsing a certain Thai Embassy/consulate's website and they have this information published.

[whitemouse]

Looking at this screen cap, the last line at the bottom makes no sense.

According to this only the G7, Western Europe, asean and Gulf states get 60 day stamp when entering with a 60 day Tourist Visa. All other passport holders with a 60 days Tourist Visa will only get a 30 day stamp.

Could this be a typo on Embassy web site?

Royal Thai Embassy in Helsinki has no such info, Embassy in Helsinki issues visas to citizens of Finland and Estonia, and this would affect Estonian passports.

This must be an error, or a typo, if a Tourist Visa is suddenly no longer 60 days visa, surely there would have been announcement.

[oncearugge]

Not talking about illegal activity, if certain conditions are met in some countries you would apparently be issued with a 3 year multiple entry Non B for short visits with employment prohibited.

I don't know exactly who or if anybody gets them, but just today i was browsing a certain Thai Embassy/consulate's website and they have this information published.

All the details here !

http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15386-Three-year-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-(for-B.html

[lkv]

All the details here !

http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15386-Three-year-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22B%22-(for-B.html

Yeah exactly there you go. I think though that you have to be a member of the Parliament of some country or the President himself to get that visa.

[lkv]

Oh my god oncearugge u were so right when you said there are so many visa options, what was I thinking. I'd pretend I was over 50 but they won't believe me. So i will stick to tourism since I actually have foreign derived income, I don't want to study Thai for visa sake....I really don't. So once again when they decide I'm doing excessive tourism maybe I will try to get a WP as a coffee barista or something if farang tea boy does not work.

Let me study all the options, i hear teachers for example can legally be on leave like for...a whole year and never teach. And need to look also into the viability of volunteering for some NGO.

[Matej]

There are many visa options. ........

1. Tourist visas , single or multiple entry

2. Non Immigrant "O" visa in many categories

3. Non immigrant "B" visas for those intending to work or undertake business.

4. Ed visas for those who intend to study.

5 O/A long stay visas for those aged 50+

6 The Thai Elite visa which is valid for 5+ years .

There is no shortage of choice .....................

Yeah well if tourist would not work anymore, I'd start "working" at my own company. Would just need to decide if I'd be the director or...i dunno...the tea boy. Although it has to be a job Thais can't do apparently.

Can Thai people serve tea?

In the end we will have to find a job, but instead of getting salary we will pay our employer that we can work for him.

If you know what I mean ... no serving tea, but tea money.

This new multiple entry tourist visa is plain nonsense.

BTW

Hey Buddy, I'm funny and sarcastic guy in this forum.

So let's remind ourselves that

[nidieunimaitre]

Can't argue with what you say, but be ready to be flamed!

Being flamed on the Thai Visa forum is the least of my concerns right now if I'm being honest with you, I'm more concerned about next year's visa options

There are many visa options. ........

1. Tourist visas , single or multiple entry

2. Non Immigrant "O" visa in many categories

3. Non immigrant "B" visas for those intending to work or undertake business.

4. Ed visas for those who intend to study.

5 O/A long stay visas for those aged 50+

6 The Thai Elite visa which is valid for 5+ years .

There is no shortage of choice .....................

Then why troll with f and ph?

[BritTim]

I speculate that the 30 days on tourist visa may once have applied, but is no longer true. Outdated information on Thai immigration matters is often present on Thai consulate web sites.This is a quote from the Pretoria website (http://www.thaiembassy.org/pretoria/en/services/29707-Tourist-Visa.html):

PERIOD OF STAY

Upon arrival, travellers with this type of visa will be permitted to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 30 days or 60 days.
Nationals of countries which are on Thailand’s Tourist Visa Exemption list or have bilateral agreements on visa exemption with Thailand will be permitted to stay for a period of not exceeding 60 days. Nationals from other countries who hold a tourist visa will be permitted to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 30 days.

I found an archived MFA webpage from January 2008 that seems to support this (https://web.archive.org/web/20080111224745/http://www.mfa.go.th/web/2482.php?id=2649):

Q: I am a Lithuanian. I want to go to Thailand for sightseeing for just a week.
I understand that Lithuanian nationals have to apply for visa before entering Thailand. But there is no Thai Embassy in my country. Can you please give me some advice?

A: You have three options:

... snip ...
(2) There is a Royal Thai Honorary Consulate-General in Vilnius, the capital

of Lithuania. You may apply for a Thai tourist visa there. In such case, you would be permitted to stay in Thailand for 30 days.

(3) You may also apply for Thai tourist visa at the Royal Thai Embassy in Moscow
or at the nearest Royal Thai Embassy in which would also permit you to stay
for 30 days.

We need someone with a better memory than mine to recall when this changed.

EDIT:

I just reread the current Q&A page on the MFA site. It suggests that, for certain nationalities, the length of stay granted depends on where the tourist visa was issued! From http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15380-Questions-&-Answers-on-Thai-Visa.html

Q: I am a Lithuanian. I want to go to Thailand for sightseeing for just a week.

I understand that Lithuanian nationals have to apply for visa before entering Thailand. But there is no Thai Embassy in my country. Can you please give me some advice?

A: You have three options:

...snip ...

(2) There is a Royal Thai Honorary Consulate-General in Vilnius, the capital

of Lithuania. You may apply for a Thai tourist visa there. In such case, you would be permitted to stay in Thailand for 30 days.

(3) You may also apply for Thai tourist visa at the Royal Thai Embassy in Moscow

or at the nearest Royal Thai Embassy in which would also permit you to stay

for 60 days.

The information on the Hull consulate website may be current for visas issued to certain nationalities, who could get the full 60-day entry if the visa was issued elsewhere. Phew!

[ubonjoe]

More false info on the honorary Thai consulate located in Hull. Does anybody really believe they would have better info than a Thai embassy website.

There are only certain countries that get a 30 day entry with a tourist visa. It certainly is not based upon the visa exemption list.

.

[MobileContent]

Actually oncearugge you tell me via PM where I can get a 3 year multiple nonB for business purposes without a WP and I'll buy you a drink

If you hold a NoneB-M last year you can apply for a 3 year NoneB.

This visa however does not permit employment.

1. Basic Documents

□ An application form completely filled out and signed by the applicant

□ A valid passport for travelling to Thailand with sufficient remaining validity (not less six month). The validity of 18 months is required for one year visa application

□ One set of passport photocopy page 1-5, correction page, last Thai visa page & renewal page if any

□ Two passport-sized photographs (3.5x4.5cm) taken within 6 months

□ Evidence of adequate finance e.g. Current Bank Solvency and Bank Statement of the last 6 months with satisfactory transaction - Only original Bank Statement and Bank Solvency Letter are acceptable.

□ A copy of air ticket or a booking confirmation or an itinerary

2. Additional Documents Required for This Category of Visa

□ Original letter from applicant’s company stating the purpose to visit Thailand, applicant’s position, length of employment and salary. If the applicant is self- employed, he or she must provide documentation of his or her business undertaking such as business registration and details of business operation

□ Business license of the applicant’s company

□ Visa request letter from the applicant & concerned authority

□ Original document showing correspondence with trading partners in Thailand or letter of invitation from companies in Thailand

□ Credible copies of the following corporate documents of the companies in Thailand (a certified copy by Royal Thai government agencies concerned or a certified and signed copy by company’s board of directors, whose identification provided, and affixed the seal of the company are preferred):

 Business License (Por. Kor. 0401)

 Certification of Company and Partnership Registration issued by Ministry of Commerce of Thailand (issued within 6 months to 1 year)

 Corporate Income Tax (CIT 50 or Por. Ngor. Dor .50) and/or Value Added Tax Return (Por.Por. 30) and/or Value-added Tax Registration (Por. Por. 20) of the latest year

 Balance sheet of the latest year

□ A letter of recommendation from previous employer or business associations of which the applicant is a member

[VBF]

More false info on the honorary Thai consulate located in Hull. Does anybody really believe they would have better info than a Thai embassy website.

There are only certain countries that get a 30 day entry with a tourist visa. It certainly is not based upon the visa exemption list.

.

UbonJoe,

As you know I value your knowledge but respectfully must differ with your last sentence "It certainly is not based upon the visa exemption list..

What it actually states on the London Embassy website, on this page about Tourist Visas is as follows:

5. PERIOD OF STAY

Upon arrival, travellers with this type of visa will be permitted to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 30 days or 60 days.

Nationals of countries which are on Thailand’s Tourist Visa Exemption list or have bilateral agreements on visa exemption with Thailand will be permitted to stay for a period of not exceeding 60 days. Nationals from other countries who hold a tourist visa will be permitted to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 30 days.

From that, is it not reasonable to infer that said exemption list is indeed relevant?. I'm not meaning to be deliberately difficult (!) but it really does say that!

What i think it means is that the TV exemption list is actually dual purpose:

1 used to define which nationalities may enter without a visa (obvious)

2 used as a reference for how long people with Tourist visas may stay

If one reads it literally, would you not agree?

[ubonjoe]

I can assure you that info is not correct. Thai immigration sets the rules for the number of days allowed with a tourist visa not the MFA,

I can recall may people from countries not on the visa exempt list getting 60 day entries. In fact all those on the visa on the visa on arrival list get a 60 day entry. Indians get a 60 day entry. The number of countries they don't get the 60 days is short.

[VBF]

I can assure you that info is not correct. Thai immigration sets the rules for the number of days allowed with a tourist visa not the MFA,

I can recall may people from countries not on the visa exempt list getting 60 day entries. In fact all those on the visa on the visa on arrival list get a 60 day entry. Indians get a 60 day entry. The number of countries they don't get the 60 days is short.

Understand UbonJoe - so what we have is a degree of misinformation or ambiguity on the Embassy site which is then perpetuated on to the Consulates! Just another "TIT" I suppose

Might I suggest (as I did in #19 above) that you lock this thread because the OP's intentions were good but possibly due to the ambiguity, misguided - no slight intended IKV! - just my thought of course.

[jollyhangmon]

Unfortunately IKV, as good as the Hull consulate is, and as "user-friendly" as they once were (!) an awful lot of what's on their websites is simply "copied & pasted" from wherever London gets theirs.

It's bad enough for us who have some experience but pity the poor newbies!

Might I respectfully suggest that IF I'm correct, you, as the OP, ask the Mods to either remove or lock this thread? Otherwise, its very presence will cause FUD - you know how it goes.

Of course if I'm wrong, I apologise sincerely

Look, none of us is wrong, we are simply commenting an information on an official Thai consulate website, so if anything is wrong, that info is.

It shouldn't be. It's unacceptable. I am genuinely tired of hearing "oh well this is Thailand you know how things go here" excuse. Actually this is on an UK website. People make decisions based on these pieces of information.

It's inconsistency that bothers me. If i saw consistency yes I'd exploit the loopholes. So what? Not breaking the law.

In regards to xenofobia if it continues like that then yes I may be considering other places. I will make a decision when I get to that stage. I'm not there yet but i am starting to get fed up, and I'm sure I am not the only one.

No mon, you certainly aren't the only one, although i for my part would meet requirements also agewise soon i start to think that LOL probably ain't worth any financial or personal engagement any more at all - with tendency just to get worse.

Left hand without any idea what right hand does a.k.a. making up 'rules' just as they go along in almost any regard ain't helpful either - although nothing new in that department unfortunately, 'idiots' pretty much sums it up in all shortness ...

Talking about idiots, just forget these entirely useless aholes all the time trying to derail informative topics with always the same whine ... these are just the ones who already dumped a lot of either money or precious lifetime into an increasingly ridiculous (to say the least) place & are now left without much of a choice, amusing sometimes, agreed, but overall - well, just faq 'em.

Luckily there are alternatives to spend your money & time as well:

http://www.internationalliving.com/countries/

http://www.pra.gov.ph/

Cheers

[VBF]

Unfortunately IKV, as good as the Hull consulate is, and as "user-friendly" as they once were (!) an awful lot of what's on their websites is simply "copied & pasted" from wherever London gets theirs.

It's bad enough for us who have some experience but pity the poor newbies!

Might I respectfully suggest that IF I'm correct, you, as the OP, ask the Mods to either remove or lock this thread? Otherwise, its very presence will cause FUD - you know how it goes.

Of course if I'm wrong, I apologise sincerely

Look, none of us is wrong, we are simply commenting an information on an official Thai consulate website, so if anything is wrong, that info is.

It shouldn't be. It's unacceptable. I am genuinely tired of hearing "oh well this is Thailand you know how things go here" excuse. Actually this is on an UK website. People make decisions based on these pieces of information.

It's inconsistency that bothers me. If i saw consistency yes I'd exploit the loopholes. So what? Not breaking the law.

In regards to xenofobia if it continues like that then yes I may be considering other places. I will make a decision when I get to that stage. I'm not there yet but i am starting to get fed up, and I'm sure I am not the only one.

No mon, you certainly aren't the only one, although i for my part would meet requirements also agewise soon i start to think that LOL probably ain't worth any financial or personal engagement any more at all - with tendency just to get worse.

Left hand without any idea what right hand does a.k.a. making up 'rules' just as they go along in almost any regard ain't helpful either - although nothing new in that department unfortunately, 'idiots' pretty much sums it up in all shortness ...

Talking about idiots, just forget these entirely useless aholes all the time trying to derail informative topics with always the same whine ... these are just the ones who already dumped a lot of either money or precious lifetime into an increasingly ridiculous (to say the least) place & are now left without much of a choice, amusing sometimes, agreed, but overall - well, just faq 'em.

Luckily there are alternatives to spend your money & time as well:

http://www.internationalliving.com/countries/

http://www.pra.gov.ph/

Cheers

Jollyhangmon - both those links return Fehler-Code: 403 (or in English Error code 403)

Any chance you could check them and repost alternatives please.

Cheers!

[lkv]

I can assure you that info is not correct. Thai immigration sets the rules for the number of days allowed with a tourist visa not the MFA,

I can recall may people from countries not on the visa exempt list getting 60 day entries. In fact all those on the visa on the visa on arrival list get a 60 day entry. Indians get a 60 day entry. The number of countries they don't get the 60 days is short.

I believe you're right, the duration of stay is determined by immigration themselves. In theory, immigration could give you 7 days on an entry if they wanted to. In any country the decision belongs to that particular immigration officer. In practice, in Thailand they would follow a format that's dictated from the powers above. Just like with the ED visa. Some schools on a black list (actually white, it was on a piece of paper in a drawer in Chaengwattana), when my friend asked "should i not get more than 1 month extension", the woman went to the drawer, had a look at the paper and she went like: "no your school gets 1 month, you want more months change school next time". I guess the tea money wasn't paid by the school to the bosses or something.

I see no reason why they could not apply the same sort of format with tourist visas, and the fact that you're being told in advance on the Embassy's website is purely for you to know in advance what chop you're going to get when you land.

Or maybe it's all rubbish, close the thread if you want and when me or anyone else gets a 30 day stamp we will reopen it.

[jollyhangmon]

Unfortunately IKV, as good as the Hull consulate is, and as "user-friendly" as they once were (!) an awful lot of what's on their websites is simply "copied & pasted" from wherever London gets theirs.

It's bad enough for us who have some experience but pity the poor newbies!

Might I respectfully suggest that IF I'm correct, you, as the OP, ask the Mods to either remove or lock this thread? Otherwise, its very presence will cause FUD - you know how it goes.

Of course if I'm wrong, I apologise sincerely

Look, none of us is wrong, we are simply commenting an information on an official Thai consulate website, so if anything is wrong, that info is.

It shouldn't be. It's unacceptable. I am genuinely tired of hearing "oh well this is Thailand you know how things go here" excuse. Actually this is on an UK website. People make decisions based on these pieces of information.

It's inconsistency that bothers me. If i saw consistency yes I'd exploit the loopholes. So what? Not breaking the law.

In regards to xenofobia if it continues like that then yes I may be considering other places. I will make a decision when I get to that stage. I'm not there yet but i am starting to get fed up, and I'm sure I am not the only one.

No mon, you certainly aren't the only one, although i for my part would meet requirements also agewise soon i start to think that LOL probably ain't worth any financial or personal engagement any more at all - with tendency just to get worse.

Left hand without any idea what right hand does a.k.a. making up 'rules' just as they go along in almost any regard ain't helpful either - although nothing new in that department unfortunately, 'idiots' pretty much sums it up in all shortness ...

Talking about idiots, just forget these entirely useless aholes all the time trying to derail informative topics with always the same whine ... these are just the ones who already dumped a lot of either money or precious lifetime into an increasingly ridiculous (to say the least) place & are now left without much of a choice, amusing sometimes, agreed, but overall - well, just faq 'em.

Luckily there are alternatives to spend your money & time as well:

http://www.internationalliving.com/countries/

http://www.pra.gov.ph/

Cheers

Jollyhangmon - both those links return Fehler-Code: 403 (or in English Error code 403)

Any chance you could check them and repost alternatives please.

Cheers!

Darn, i see what you mean, i had copied it in here out of an email ... there you go, directly from the browser this time - 2 x checked & worked fine in preview:

http://internationalliving.com/countries/

http://www.pra.gov.ph/

Some more available but mainly in German - however, just let me know if you find something worth discussion ...

[VBF]

Darn, i see what you mean, i had copied it in here out of an email ... there you go, directly from the browser this time - 2 x checked & worked fine in preview:

http://internationalliving.com/countries/

http://www.pra.gov.ph/

Some more available but mainly in German - however, just let me know if you find something worth discussion ...

Thanks JollyHangmon - I'm glad i asked you to repost - those links are very interesting.

Any further discussion of them would be way for a Thai forum but I'm going to have a good read!

Cheers!

[jollyhangmon]

Darn, i see what you mean, i had copied it in here out of an email ... there you go, directly from the browser this time - 2 x checked & worked fine in preview:

http://internationalliving.com/countries/

http://www.pra.gov.ph/

Some more available but mainly in German - however, just let me know if you find something worth discussion ...

Thanks JollyHangmon - I'm glad i asked you to repost - those links are very interesting.

Any further discussion of them would be way for a Thai forum but I'm going to have a good read!

Cheers!

You're welcome. Off topic? Well, maybe. Then again this whole country appears to be slightly off topic as of lately ;-)

But yes, mods would probably scratch it - still, there's always PM (Personal Messenger) on here on TV in case you haven't noticed ...

Just saw there's a printversion of that 'international living' thing with that nice sailing-yacht on cover, well, might not exactly be our priceclass over all, don't know about you but i for instance am a bit short right now since i bought me that little Gulfstream G6 recently.

=> Seriously, to compare prices & living-costs go to:

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/

(1 EUR gets 10 that Iraq or Syria are a bargain at the moment ;-)

=> Thaivisa also offers (Cambodia, Burma, SouthEastAsia in general) :

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/208-regional-forums/

Cheers again!