springheeled jack Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 in reference to climate change it is imperative that all countries adhere to the rules regarding co2 emissions and any country failing to stick to the rules should be dealt with ,flooding in various parts of the world are a result of global warming a warning to the world in general to stop co2 emissions now not later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 "The country always found the right solutions for national and international conflict," 12 coup d'etats and counting; 20 contsitutions and counting. Funny how those right solutions never seem to be the final solution! Did the French ambassador just mock the Prayut regime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelonius Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Quite simple really, Thailand had a democracy and now they have a military junta ruling. So a transition to a democracy "again" is meaningless if the military feel that they call pull the reigns whenever it suits them. Are you serious ! Thailand had a democracy ? When a total crook bribes the nation then proceeds to pillage it you call that a democracy ? Shame on you ! The sad fact is that true democracy can only exist in a country filled with intelligent middle class citizens who are capable of understanding the important issues and casting a sensible vote to try and make conditions better for all. Here in Thailand this is not the case, and in my opinion the military, though not perfect, are doing a much better job than their predecessors. I do believe he is serious, you, I'm not so sure about. Isn't it curious how some presumably intelligent and politically savvy people will come up with all kinds of definitions of what is democracy and what isn't, solely to justify a military takeover of a country. Why do they do that? There is NO justification for a military takeover of any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelonius Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charly2007 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Lick my .... too, please, French ambassador!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The way France is going, Mugabe would look like a moderate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) L' Ambassadeur de France Edited December 7, 2015 by ratcatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickylies Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 him guest here. him no have freedom of speech. him paid big each month. him happy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Quite simple really, Thailand had a democracy and now they have a military junta ruling. So a transition to a democracy "again" is meaningless if the military feel that they call pull the reigns whenever it suits them. Are you serious ! Thailand had a democracy ? When a total crook bribes the nation then proceeds to pillage it you call that a democracy ? Shame on you ! The sad fact is that true democracy can only exist in a country filled with intelligent middle class citizens who are capable of understanding the important issues and casting a sensible vote to try and make conditions better for all. Here in Thailand this is not the case, and in my opinion the military, though not perfect, are doing a much better job than their predecessors. No mate "shame on you". Why you ask? Well for one thing there is no country now nor past that has ever had a "true democracy", instead there have country's with incomplete forms of or adapted kinds of democracy. As for your next misguided comment on true democracy takes intelligent middle class citizens <deleted>, well may I suggest you get off your high horse and listen coz the adults are talking ok,,, Wanting a free and fair government that respects the rights of others is not a concept lost on people that do not fit your pigeon box of "intelligent middle class citizens" many people outside your parameter's are quite "capable of understanding the important issues" and have a desire for a better future for all. In fact many could suggest people outside of your "intelligent middle class citizens" would have far greater experience with the important issues than say hummm YOU. So phantomfiddler, attempted innuendos of vote buying at the federal level had no relative impact on the out come, the independent evidence is out there but this is the same old spittle you guy's come out with coz ya don't like the results... Now Mark could be a great leader, if he had policy's the appealed to the majority, but he doesn't so... Quick quiz, Three things that the current junta have implemented and successfully completed that had a massive positive impact on the Thai people and the economy and country in comparison to hummm lets say,,, Thaksin??? that shouldn't be to difficult for person of "intelligent middle class" status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 ambassador-gilles-garachon-and-wife-isabelle.jpg L' Ambassadeur de France I think I saw him in Khao San a couple of weeks ago. The attire was a bit less formal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Quite simple really, Thailand had a democracy and now they have a military junta ruling. So a transition to a democracy "again" is meaningless if the military feel that they call pull the reigns whenever it suits them. A good example is Aung San Suu Kyi. She will be working under a military microscope. She is there as a front person to say Democracy rules and to pull in foreign investors. One wrong move and the military will sweep back in and say "See we told you so Democracy does not work" If you look at the photo they are just political window dressing here to push trade deals and help big business. You do not even appear on their radar. Its political payback for this guy. Edited December 7, 2015 by elgordo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 France has long experience in diplomacy, not like US amateurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billphillips Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 30 years prison term for a Facebook post. Yea, right, moderate. Prat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannig Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Shameful, really. He didn't need saying that. Yes, France is far from having the same kind of leverage force the U.S. has here, so it would have been very unwise to publicly support what's been said by the U.S. diplomat. So... just shut the hell up. Oh well, regarding the results of regional elections in France yesterday, I guess it fits well. Some days one's nationality is difficult to bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobb Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I hope the radical monk likes the French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The new French Ambassador sent him a letter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The new French Ambassador sent him a letter! A French letter perchance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Would you buy a used car from this man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Quite simple really, Thailand had a democracy and now they have a military junta ruling. So a transition to a democracy "again" is meaningless if the military feel that they call pull the reigns whenever it suits them. Are you serious ! Thailand had a democracy ? When a total crook bribes the nation then proceeds to pillage it you call that a democracy ? Shame on you ! The sad fact is that true democracy can only exist in a country filled with intelligent middle class citizens who are capable of understanding the important issues and casting a sensible vote to try and make conditions better for all. Here in Thailand this is not the case, and in my opinion the military, though not perfect, are doing a much better job than their predecessors. Well Phantomfiddler, if you were living in a democracy you would be entitled to your point of view. However you are living in a country with a military junta and hence you aren't entitled to express your point of view, even if it is to kiss the fiddlers ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Would you buy a used car from this man? No, but I wouldn't mind taking his missus for a test drive. (See post#37) Edited December 7, 2015 by chickenslegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icare999 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Lick bottom or then truth and most there would agree except a number of stupid forang who believe their version of democracy is only one. Iraq Libya Afghanistan Syria all show how stupid they are and all countries ruined by ignorant governments. Shame on USA and others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icare999 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 someone tells truth from west at last and most there would agree except a number of stupid forang who believe their version of democracy is only one. Iraq Libya Afghanistan Syria all show how stupid they are and all countries ruined by ignorant governments. Shame on USA and others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamini Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The junta probably is moderate compared to the reactionary political movement gaining momentum in France. and the elite Singapre government. possibly Malaysia too. So it was a fair comment by someone better educated and informed than most of the posters on this subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 The junta probably is moderate compared to the reactionary political movement gaining momentum in France. and the elite Singapre government. possibly Malaysia too. So it was a fair comment by someone better educated and informed than most of the posters on this subject I pity your understanding of democracy. Your muddled and confused mind must have caused you to make comparison with democratically elected governments of Singapore and Malaysia. You don't seem very educated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 The junta probably is moderate compared to the reactionary political movement gaining momentum in France. That is democracy in action. Don't you like it now because you disagree with the results? No it's not democracy in action Rainman. Duh!! Ohhhhm you mean in France, my bad!!! Looks like I'm the Rainman, unless you were talking about Thailand of course, Sorry. What is the reference to "the Rainman" please? I sincerely hope I'm wrong in what I think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calach Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Of course, France just passed state of emergency and is voting one anti-democratic law after the other since January attacks. Indeed, Thailand military dictatorship is looking better every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 The junta probably is moderate compared to the reactionary political movement gaining momentum in France. and the elite Singapre government. possibly Malaysia too. So it was a fair comment by someone better educated and informed than most of the posters on this subject I pity your understanding of democracy. Your muddled and confused mind must have caused you to make comparison with democratically elected governments of Singapore and Malaysia. You don't seem very educated. Yes, Singapore and Malaysia - famous for their democracy, free speech, free press and thriving oppositions. Well done Eric. You pronounce judgement on someones education based on a couple of sentences. Maybe you confuse education with intelligence and consider yourself well educated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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