Former Dutch soldier arrested for fighting Islamic State

[rooster59]

Former Dutch soldier arrested for fighting Islamic State

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — A former Dutch soldier has been arrested on suspicion of involvement in the killing of combatants from the Islamic State group in Syria while fighting with a Kurdish militia.

Prosecutors say the suspect, whose identity was not released in line with Dutch privacy rules, fought with a Kurdish militia in Syria known as YPG, or People's Protection Units, which has become a main force fighting IS militants.

The 47-year-old man appeared Friday before an investigating judge in Rotterdam and was released on condition he turn in his passport, to prevent him from returning to Syria.

Prosecutors say killing IS fighters could lead to murder charges, but add that further investigation into the former soldier's involvement is required before a decision on any prosecution is made.

-- (c) Associated Press 2016-01-16

[lust]

Murder? This is war. More like animal cruelty. You can't murder rats.

[trogers]

Is the Netherlands sponsoring ISIL?

[neverdie]

Strange

[shirtless]

These are the people who want control of the world , They are totally stupid give the man a medal.

[dopenhagen]

why does a search on AP for Dutch Soldier come up empty ?

http://www.ap.org/Search/SearchResults?searchkeywords=dutch+soldier

[ExpatOilWorker]

In 2014 they sais:

Joining a foreign armed force was previously punishable. Now its no longer forbidden, said Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for the Dutch public prosecutor. You just cant join a fight against the Netherlands.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/15/outlaw-bikers-join-with-kurds-to-fight-isis-in-iraq

[khwaibah]

FORKING ARSE HOLES..

[metisdead]

why does a search on AP for Dutch Soldier come up empty ?

http://www.ap.org/Search/SearchResults?searchkeywords=dutch+soldier

It's here:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_NETHERLANDS_FOREIGN_FIGHTER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[phitsanulokjohn]

Apparently went into battle with a tulip in one hand and a spliff in the other.

[jaidam]

why does a search on AP for Dutch Soldier come up empty ?

http://www.ap.org/Search/SearchResults?searchkeywords=dutch+soldier

because he is as "Dutch" as an Amazonian canoe?

[Somtamnication]

Surreal. I thought at first they were talking about Thailand, but The Netherlands?

[soalbundy]

These are the people who want control of the world , They are totally stupid give the man a medal.

+ + + +

[jvs]

And what happens to the Islamic extremists who come back to Holland after they joined the IS?

J.A says for every IS idiot he kills h eprobably saves 10 lives,i happen to agree.

[Tchooptip]

Are the leftists in Europe becoming completely crazy ?

[TheCruncher]

I assume this news article is in error and the soldier is to receive a medal of honor instead.

[Catoni]

Arrested for fighting and killing those damn murderous monsters ? ? I say give the guy a medal and thank him and throw a good time party for him.

The government that arrested him.... do they support ISIS/ISIL/IS/Daesh (or whatever name they are being called this week) ? ?

[Catoni]

Are the leftists in Europe becoming completely crazy ?

Let me think about that question............ Answer...... YES ! ! !

[sanukjim]

Is the Netherlands sponsoring ISIL?

The Dutch government sounds like Socialist not wanting you to participate in any war not their's.You will notice even though they are buying war planes and arms that they are not assisting the UK,or The US in fighting the isis in The Mid East....

[stevenl]

I think it would be wise for some more information on what exactly is happening here and not tush to judgement. Too many inconsistencies here.

[metisdead]

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[stickylies]

why does a search on AP for Dutch Soldier come up empty ?

http://www.ap.org/Search/SearchResults?searchkeywords=dutch+soldier

cuz the search function is crap...

[Linky]

Happened to an australian as well. It is illegal to head off and fight for a foreign force. Stands to reason.

[Mr Money Bags]

We all, including the media, should immediately stop using all "ISIL" "ISIS" "IS" variants to refer to these animals. We should all use "Daesh", as it is quite an insult in their culture and seriously pisses them off.

They deserve death. A good insult is a good first step in that direction......

You're Welcome!!

[billd766]

So it is OK for the IS to rape, enslave whole populations, murder, behead or burn people alive, but if someone else does it then it is not OK even though some members of the IS are from "civilised" western countries?

What a topsy turvy PC world they live in over there.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34267936

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/615304/free-Sergeant-Alexander-Blackman-protest-London-Royal-Marine-Taliban-fighter-jailed

Edited January 16, 2016 by billd766

[robblok]

In 2014 they sais:

Joining a foreign armed force was previously punishable. Now its no longer forbidden, said Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for the Dutch public prosecutor. You just cant join a fight against the Netherlands.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/15/outlaw-bikers-join-with-kurds-to-fight-isis-in-iraq

Stupid Dutch judges and police.. fighting ISIL should be legal. I can understand people joining ISIL should be punished but not the other way around. Judges probably want to appear impartial as not to offend the muslims living in the Netherlands

For the record I am Dutch and think this is a stupid decision.

[stevenl]

In 2014 they sais:

Joining a foreign armed force was previously punishable. Now its no longer forbidden, said Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for the Dutch public prosecutor. You just cant join a fight against the Netherlands.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/15/outlaw-bikers-join-with-kurds-to-fight-isis-in-iraq

Stupid Dutch judges and police.. fighting ISIL should be legal. I can understand people joining ISIL should be punished but not the other way around. Judges probably want to appear impartial as not to offend the muslims living in the Netherlands

For the record I am Dutch and think this is a stupid decision.

I think it is the right decision.

There has been no conviction, the only decision that has been made it that there will be an investigation to decide whether he has acted according to the law or not. And that is how a justice system should work: find out if somebody has acted legally or not, and if required take action as soon as the facts have been established.

[robblok]

In 2014 they sais:

Joining a foreign armed force was previously punishable. Now its no longer forbidden, said Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for the Dutch public prosecutor. You just cant join a fight against the Netherlands.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/15/outlaw-bikers-join-with-kurds-to-fight-isis-in-iraq

Stupid Dutch judges and police.. fighting ISIL should be legal. I can understand people joining ISIL should be punished but not the other way around. Judges probably want to appear impartial as not to offend the muslims living in the Netherlands

For the record I am Dutch and think this is a stupid decision.

I think it is the right decision.

There has been no conviction, the only decision that has been made it that there will be an investigation to decide whether he has acted according to the law or not. And that is how a justice system should work: find out if somebody has acted legally or not, and if required take action as soon as the facts have been established.

I don't agree.. it might be how the law works but unless they can pin some war crimes on him just fighting ISIS should not be a reason for prosecuting him. That would be like picking you up for running a dive shop and then checking if we can pin something on you while from the start its clear that unless you ran the dive shop to con people there should be no reason to even investigate you.

Unless they got information that he committed war crimes, just fighting the bad guys should not warrant such an investigation. Muslims fighting for the enemy have come of easier as this guy. Just plain stupid.

[simple1]

Don't know about Dutch law, but I believe it is illegal in Western countries to engage in overseas armed conflict unless with the military of a recognised foreign State, so long as the foreign State is not at war with your home country.

Some Australians are fighting alongside Kurds against Daesh, a few killed. The legality is discussed at the URL below

http://www.cefa.org.au/ccf/australian-court-decide-if-it-crime-fight-kurds

Edited January 16, 2016 by simple1

[Linky]

In 2014 they sais:

Joining a foreign armed force was previously punishable. Now its no longer forbidden, said Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for the Dutch public prosecutor. You just cant join a fight against the Netherlands.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/15/outlaw-bikers-join-with-kurds-to-fight-isis-in-iraq

Stupid Dutch judges and police.. fighting ISIL should be legal. I can understand people joining ISIL should be punished but not the other way around. Judges probably want to appear impartial as not to offend the muslims living in the Netherlands

For the record I am Dutch and think this is a stupid decision.

I think it is the right decision.

There has been no conviction, the only decision that has been made it that there will be an investigation to decide whether he has acted according to the law or not. And that is how a justice system should work: find out if somebody has acted legally or not, and if required take action as soon as the facts have been established.

I don't agree.. it might be how the law works but unless they can pin some war crimes on him just fighting ISIS should not be a reason for prosecuting him. That would be like picking you up for running a dive shop and then checking if we can pin something on you while from the start its clear that unless you ran the dive shop to con people there should be no reason to even investigate you.

Unless they got information that he committed war crimes, just fighting the bad guys should not warrant such an investigation. Muslims fighting for the enemy have come of easier as this guy. Just plain stupid.

If your country allows you to fight in a civil war on one side then it stands to reason you are also allowed to fight for the other side. Govt should not determine which side you consider reasonable to fight for. Much easier, safer, logical to make it illegal to fight for either side.