British lawmakers debate a ban on Donald Trump entering the country

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British lawmakers debate a ban on Donald Trump entering the country
By Everton Gayle | With REUTERS



LONDON: -- A petition to bar Donald Trump from entering Britain was the object of debate at Britain’s Houses of Parliament.

More than 500,000 citizens put their name to the petition and topics are considered for parliamentary discussion if they reach 100,000.

Last month, Trump provoked controversy with his comments that Muslims should be banned from entering the United States, after 14 people died in a shooting spree in California by two Muslims, whom the FBI said had been radicalised.

The debate will not be followed by a vote.

“There is no reason why we shouldn’t admire America and admire her history and admire her contribution to democracy over many centuries, but also object to particular individuals,” said MP Paul Flynn.

“But I don’t want to assist Donald Trump in any way and I think that is the view of nearly all MPs, and we could perversely by banning him, increase his standing amongst his supporters in America.”

Only the Home Secretary Theresa May can issue an order banning entry into Britain and Prime Minister David Cameron has said that while Trump’s comments were divisive, he does not favour barring him.

Trump has threatened to cancel over 700 million pounds ($1 billion) of planned investments in golf courses in Scotland if he is banned.

-- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-01-19

[jaidam]

People around the world hear this 500,000 number and think it is significant. If they knew England better, they'd realize it's just a few families in Bradford.

[Boon Mee]

That's pretty silly. Ban someone because they hurt your little feelers?

[stevenl]

That's pretty silly. Ban someone because they hurt your little feelers?

No, not ban but debate.

[NeverSure]

As usual, Europeans Euronews is dishonest. Trump didn't suggest banning Muslims from the US. He proposed stopping immigration until they could be properly vetted.

Liars.

[MaeJoMTB]

Ban Donald Trump Vs Ban Muslim refugees.

Wonder which vote would win if held for real in the UK?

[jacky54]

But the UK lets in hate preachers and returning Isis fighters and their followers, how about a poll to keep them out

[OMGImInPattaya]

Didn't all the CO2 expelled during this debate increase global warming...isn't that the real issue here?

[stevenl]

But the UK lets in hate preachers and returning Isis fighters and their followers, how about a poll to keep them out

Hate preachers of all religions are banned or expelled.

[sirineou]

Now if we could only ban Trump from the US.

[OMGImInPattaya]

But the UK lets in hate preachers and returning Isis fighters and their followers, how about a poll to keep them out

Hate preachers of all religions are banned or expelled.

After 10 years...expulsion delayed is exulsion denied.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3291299/Hate-preacher-Abu-Qatada-condemns-filthy-Shia-Muslims-vows-Islam-dominate-land-vile-propaganda-article-Al-Qaeda-s-magazine.html

[TheKnave]

As usual, Europeans Euronews is dishonest. Trump didn't suggest banning Muslims from the US. He proposed stopping immigration until they could be properly vetted.

Liars.

Mind that Euronews' isn't even European any more. It was bought recently by a Coptic Egyptian. And is often full of rather sly propaganda...

[klauskunkel]

Not to worry Donald, just convert to Islam and change your name to Halal Akbar Trump, and you will have no problem entering the UK. And grow a beard...

[roo860]

But the UK lets in hate preachers and returning Isis fighters and their followers, how about a poll to keep them out

Hate preachers of all religions are banned or expelled.

Unfortunately it can take a very long time to get them out and millions spent (tax payers money, legal aid) when they throw in the Human Rights ticket, and their families still receive benefits, housing etc.

[rijit]

One of issues with what trump said is that terror groups are now using it on recruitment videos. Being nice, he should be more considered b4 voicing his opinions not being so nice , just shut the fun up u ignorant c----t. Oh and ban the ignorant <deleted>. People that make racially

Inflammatory remarks made with.little or no consideration Of the possible consequences don't deserve to be let into the UK.

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Edited January 19, 2016 by rijit

[Enoon]

Ban Donald Trump Vs Ban Muslim refugees.

Wonder which vote would win if held for real in the UK?

Here's your answer:

1. Reverse the decision to allow "thousands" of Syrian migrants into the UK

   Government responded – 10 December 2015

   The Government will not reverse the decision to admit 20,000 Syrian refugees for resettlement. The UK has a proud history of providing refuge to those in genuine need of protection.

   18,641 signatures

1. Refuse asylum seekers & remove support for so called refugee migrants in the UK

   Government responded – 30 November 2015

   The UK has a proud tradition of providing protection to those who genuinely need it. However, we are tough on those who abuse the system and make spurious claims.

   12,588 signatures

2. Stop all immigration and close the UK borders until ISIS is defeated.

   Government responded – 24 November 2015

   The UK government will not close Britain’s borders. It will ensure access for legitimate travellers and trade whilst operating its borders securely to protect the public from the threat of terrorism.

   457,467 signatures

3. To Keep Britain's Borders Open

   Government responded – 24 November 2015

   The UK government will keep Britain’s borders open to legitimate travellers and trade. It will continue to operate those borders securely, to protect the public from the threat of terrorism.

   18,967 signatures

Not enough signatures. The people have spoken.

Why not give it a try yourself: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/

Edited January 19, 2016 by Enoon

[NeverSure]

As usual, Europeans Euronews is dishonest. Trump didn't suggest banning Muslims from the US. He proposed stopping immigration until they could be properly vetted.

Liars.

Mind that Euronews' isn't even European any more. It was bought recently by a Coptic Egyptian. And is often full of rather sly propaganda...

Well, the bastards in the UK who are pushing this crap are liars. Trump never proposed banning Muslims from the US. He proposed something that Europeans are going to cry about because they aren't doing it. Stop immigration until you can vet people.

Liars.

[thaibeachlovers]

That's pretty silly. Ban someone because they hurt your little feelers?

No, not ban but debate.

So how come they didn't debate Bush the younger, a war criminal? Oh, of course, if they did that they'd have had to debate Blair as well- both war criminals ( IMO ).

If the plonkers in Britain's parliament want to debate bad foreign people, London is full of them.

What happened to Britain anyway? It used to rule half the world, and now it's debating a man because he wants Muslim immigration halted till they can screen the terrorists out. How the mighty has fallen. PITIFUL.

[stevenl]

That's pretty silly. Ban someone because they hurt your little feelers?

No, not ban but debate.

So how come they didn't debate Bush the younger, a war criminal? Oh, of course, if they did that they'd have had to debate Blair as well- both war criminals ( IMO ).

If the plonkers in Britain's parliament want to debate bad foreign people, London is full of them.

What happened to Britain anyway? It used to rule half the world, and now it's debating a man because he wants Muslim immigration halted till they can screen the terrorists out. How the mighty has fallen. PITIFUL.

Was there a petition to debate Bush?

[dexterm]

As usual, Europeans Euronews is dishonest. Trump didn't suggest banning Muslims from the US. He proposed stopping immigration until they could be properly vetted.

Liars.

You are the one being dishonest. Trump actually said...

Trump's campaign added in the release that such a ban should remain in effect "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/

What on earth does that mean...until the 12th of never? You are the one sugar coating his remarks. Trump did not say "properly vetted"...you did.

Trump is a nasty demagogue who plays the racist/religionist card to scare monger and pander to the bigotry of the ignorant in order to try to win an election. We have seen it before in history.

I doubt very much anything will come of the UK debate, but at least it sends a message to the US and the world that many disagree with and can see through his toxic brand of ethno nationalism.

Edited January 19, 2016 by dexterm

[Credo]

Not to worry Donald, just convert to Islam and change your name to Halal Akbar Trump, and you will have no problem entering the UK. And grow a beard...

After seeing what's on top of his head, I shudder to think what his beard would look like.

[Doc46]

Now if we could only ban Trump from the US.

What planet are you from dude? Trump is the only one with big enough balls to say what most people only dare to think,wake up man keep your country safe while you still can, Very soon it will be to late & you will be very Sorry.

[Chicog]

As usual, Europeans Euronews is dishonest. Trump didn't suggest banning Muslims from the US. He proposed stopping immigration until they could be properly vetted.

Liars.

No he didn't; he proposed stopping immigration "Until we can work out what the hell is going on".

Trump only deals in vacuous soundbites, remember?

Edited January 19, 2016 by Chicog

[Chicog]

As usual, Europeans Euronews is dishonest. Trump didn't suggest banning Muslims from the US. He proposed stopping immigration until they could be properly vetted.

Liars.

Mind that Euronews' isn't even European any more. It was bought recently by a Coptic Egyptian. And is often full of rather sly propaganda...

Well, the bastards in the UK who are pushing this crap are liars. Trump never proposed banning Muslims from the US. He proposed something that Europeans are going to cry about because they aren't doing it. Stop immigration until you can vet people.

Liars.

You don't really understand the British at all. Most of the people who signed that petition didn't do so because they want Trump banned, but just because it's a very convenient way of telling him that he's an ar$ehole.

And again, he did not mention vetting, he said he wanted to stop muslims entering the US "Until we can work out what the hell is going on".

Because he's too stupid to actually have any detailed policies.

Is the US visa system not a vetting system in its own right?

Does it not already include overseas criminal lists and monitors of social media? (Ans: Yes it does).

[jippytum]

The UK allow hundreds of illegal immigrants to enter the country via the channel tunnel on a regular basis and seem unable to stop them .

We could do with more people who agree with 'The Donald's views on immigration in the country .However instead they spend all this time debating whether to ban one person !!!

[sirineou]

Now if we could only ban Trump from the US.

What planet are you from dude? Trump is the only one with big enough balls to say what most people only dare to think,wake up man keep your country safe while you still can, Very soon it will be to late & you will be very Sorry.

certainly not from planet Bizarro

[NoshowJones]

Not to worry Donald, just convert to Islam and change your name to Halal Akbar Trump, and you will have no problem entering the UK. And grow a beard...

Yes, and once you get there, don't forget to go to the benefits office and get your housing benefits and other handouts.

Having that beard, and getting the wife to wear a hijab and you can't fail. You won't be recognised.

[camble]

I think he should be banned from re-entering the US. He's a great businessman but if elected president, this man will do more for ISIS than what prohibition did for Capone. I am not yet ready for Armageddon.

[dexterm]

Not to worry Donald, just convert to Islam and change your name to Halal Akbar Trump, and you will have no problem entering the UK. And grow a beard...

Yes, and once you get there, don't forget to go to the benefits office and get your housing benefits and other handouts.

Having that beard, and getting the wife to wear a hijab and you can't fail. You won't be recognised.

Pure hateful religionist nonsense. The sort of bigotry that the original petitioners didn't want Trump to pander to if he came to the UK and caused trouble.

Edited January 19, 2016 by dexterm

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies have been removed. I don't think we need to re-hash WWII in this thread.