Bill97 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 There is a lot of info out there but anyone posting it could be in trouble as even the truth can be deemed defamation in Thailand plus pissing off those that have your fate in their hands is not the way to go.But all the suggestions of improper behavior here are okay and not pissing them off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Bill97 said: But all the suggestions of improper behavior here are okay and not pissing them off? No idea. You could ask them next time you are there perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawhod Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 18 hours ago, NancyL said: Go to the U.S. consulate for your Cert. of Res. Mark my words, if you go to G4T, you'll find you have to pay 1600 baht fine for a "past due" TM30 before you can get your Cert of Res. This on top of their 500 baht fee (ie. opps, I'm again self-censoring what that 500 baht fee really is), Plus, you'll have to make two trips to Promenada. If you make an appointment with the U.S. Consulate you'll get a clean, honest $50 Cert. of Res. on the spot. Don't feed the machine at Imm. Promenada. I have said this before and I will say it again... If you persist in this line of attack on immigration (again) it could result in them withdrawal the issuing of Certificates of Residence all together. It's OK for you Yanks who can go to your consulate in CM, but us Brits have now no consulate here. For me it would entail a return trip to Bangkok with a night stay over and a fee of 2300 baht (£51). So give it a rest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, rawhod said: I have said this before and I will say it again... If you persist in this line of attack on immigration (again) it could result in them withdrawal the issuing of Certificates of Residence all together. It's OK for you Yanks who can go to your consulate in CM, but us Brits have now no consulate here. For me it would entail a return trip to Bangkok with a night stay over and a fee of 2300 baht (£51). So give it a rest... Perhaps an agency could arrange it for you if that scenario occured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genericnic Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 20 hours ago, NancyL said: Actually, when you apply for a new passport here in Chiang Mai, you usually receive an email to go pick it up in two weeks or less. No extra charge for "expedited service". The charges you quote are for application in the U.S. and, I believe include courier charges. These are published charges, for which a receipt is issued. Not the same thing as G4T, working out of an unmarked office which is shut down every time there's some official scrutiny with on-site visits from Bangkok about alleged problems with poor service at CM Immigration driving customers to using visa agents. I've been using G4T for a couple of years now for extensions and such. Always received receipts for both their services and for immigration's fees paid. As for an unmarked office, the one downstairs is not well marked but the one on the 3rd floor (the one I go to) is well marked and easy to find. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipterocarp Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Promenada takes longer than Airport immigration did as they have three people processing one request. Plus a lot of scanning of docs and taking pictures with mobile phones. Overall a more pleasant environment than "investigative division". Going by Uber was wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true blue Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 22 hours ago, rawhod said: I have said this before and I will say it again... If you persist in this line of attack on immigration (again) it could result in them withdrawal the issuing of Certificates of Residence all together. It's OK for you Yanks who can go to your consulate in CM, but us Brits have now no consulate here. For me it would entail a return trip to Bangkok with a night stay over and a fee of 2300 baht (£51). So give it a rest... IMHO if she hadn't castigated imm so much in the past doubt if this tm30 thing would have ever been implemented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 5 hours ago, Genericnic said: I've been using G4T for a couple of years now for extensions and such. Always received receipts for both their services and for immigration's fees paid. As for an unmarked office, the one downstairs is not well marked but the one on the 3rd floor (the one I go to) is well marked and easy to find. David David -- think about it. G4T is the only visa agency that can issue a Cert of Res. Sure you're getting a receipt from them for that 500 baht, but not from Immigration. Why is it that you can't go to another visa agent and get a Cert of Res? As for G4T being well marked, do you call it well-marked for their office on the 2nd floor of Prom. to only have the name of their business on the front of the store and absolutely nothing that indicates the nature of their business? In fact they still have the display cases from the previous tenant, a music store, with the brand names of musical instruments. All the better to disguise the true nature of the business. Note how Big Camera next door has a display out in the mall. Most stores do. Not G4T. If you didn't know about them already, you wouldn't have a clue what they offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard2010 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, true blue said: IMHO if she hadn't castigated imm so much in the past doubt if this tm30 thing would have ever been implemented Seeing you brought this up Can you tell US All Why Chiang Mai Immigration is doing things different to other Immigration offices i think the about line says it all Other offices work more proficiently the Chiang Mai The person in charge is doing What he wants As there is so may of us Expats here It is just feeding the Gravy train IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, true blue said: IMHO if she hadn't castigated imm so much in the past doubt if this tm30 thing would have ever been implemented Officers at airport immigration offices made it very clear this was a Junta down decision after the erawan shrine bombing. I suppose shes responsible for it happening in hua hin, pattaya, phuket, udon, etc is she ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, true blue said: IMHO if she hadn't castigated imm so much in the past doubt if this tm30 thing would have ever been implemented Being implemented all over Thailand, you seriously think this is because of Nancy's crusade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard2010 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, LivinLOS said: Officers at airport immigration offices made it very clear this was a Junta down decision after the erawan shrine bombing. I suppose shes responsible for it happening in hua hin, pattaya, phuket, udon, etc is she ?? Can you provide evidence on this If not!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 You mean the conversation between me and Capt Tissaporn ?? No of course not.. Please explain how Nancy influenced Samuis immigration in any way that shows an ounce of logic ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard2010 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, LivinLOS said: You mean the conversation between me and Capt Tissaporn ?? No of course not.. Please explain how Nancy influenced Samuis immigration in any way that shows an ounce of logic ?? So actually was going to tell you the truth Well after all this is Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 No answer on how in your mind Nancy has effected the entire countries immigration offices ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMKiwi Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Although I may not necessarily agree with what is perceived as to the backing or support of G4S (Not that anyone on this forum really knows), I have used them in the past to get a CoR. At the end of the day I really don't give a rats about how they get the CoR as long as I get what I'm after. In relation to going to a consulate being an honourable thing.... what a load of pants. Harping on about the payment of 500 baht for this 'service' whereas the US of A consulate charge US $50 for their letter is in my opinion a greater highway robbery of the two. Sure Immigration decided a while ago that it would be free..... if you wait long enough and attend an appointment with immigration officials. What a farcical load of bureaucratic nonsense that was. It didn't take long to resume the G4S service. Rightly or wrongly I don't give 2 hoots as to how Chiang Mai immigration decide to do their business however if they somehow make it easier for me the I will use that option. Ok rant over.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 hour ago, CMKiwi said: Although I may not necessarily agree with what is perceived as to the backing or support of G4S (Not that anyone on this forum really knows), I have used them in the past to get a CoR. At the end of the day I really don't give a rats about how they get the CoR as long as I get what I'm after. In relation to going to a consulate being an honourable thing.... what a load of pants. Harping on about the payment of 500 baht for this 'service' whereas the US of A consulate charge US $50 for their letter is in my opinion a greater highway robbery of the two. Sure Immigration decided a while ago that it would be free..... if you wait long enough and attend an appointment with immigration officials. What a farcical load of bureaucratic nonsense that was. It didn't take long to resume the G4S service. Rightly or wrongly I don't give 2 hoots as to how Chiang Mai immigration decide to do their business however if they somehow make it easier for me the I will use that option. Ok rant over.... no rant at all., just plain common sense has prevailed most rank and file expats would agree, but the do gooders just want to spoil our party its a Lesley Gore good evening to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipterocarp Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 16 hours ago, CMKiwi said: Although I may not necessarily agree with what is perceived as to the backing or support of G4S (Not that anyone on this forum really knows), I have used them in the past to get a CoR. At the end of the day I really don't give a rats about how they get the CoR as long as I get what I'm after. In relation to going to a consulate being an honourable thing.... what a load of pants. Harping on about the payment of 500 baht for this 'service' whereas the US of A consulate charge US $50 for their letter is in my opinion a greater highway robbery of the two. Sure Immigration decided a while ago that it would be free..... if you wait long enough and attend an appointment with immigration officials. What a farcical load of bureaucratic nonsense that was. It didn't take long to resume the G4S service. Rightly or wrongly I don't give 2 hoots as to how Chiang Mai immigration decide to do their business however if they somehow make it easier for me the I will use that option. Ok rant over.... Also appointments are required (only 2 days a week available) and with waiting and bag checks there us no way to get out under an hour. The Counsular officers and staff ARE the nicest people and most helpful. $50 sounds like a load of cash for a bit of paper but heard something about services supposed to being largely self-funded by users. Some in government have no use for expats actually. I heard Brits get fleeced for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawhod Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dipterocarp said: The Consular officers and staff ARE the nicest people and most helpful And the most expensive. More-so if you have to travel to Bangkok and stay over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawhod Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Dipterocarp said: Also appointments are required (only 2 days a week available) and with waiting and bag checks there us no way to get out under an hour. The Counsular officers and staff ARE the nicest people and most helpful. $50 sounds like a load of cash for a bit of paper but heard something about services supposed to being largely self-funded by users. Some in government have no use for expats actually. I heard Brits get fleeced for more. Nice edit to get you out of the hole...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipterocarp Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 No hole at all my post is accurate. I think I added to it on the fly no change of meaning. Pay B500 to Imm or $50 to US Consul Chiang Mai. Glad I still have a choice, someday hope to get a Yellow Book but for now still not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawhod Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dipterocarp said: No hole at all my post is accurate. I think I added to it on the fly no change of meaning. Pay B500 to Imm or $50 to US Consul Chiang Mai. Glad I still have a choice, someday hope to get a Yellow Book but for now still not possible. Ah Ah, now I understand. It didn't occur to me that you were initially referring to the USA consulate (me being a Brit). Although my reply was " tongue in cheek", I'll climb out of my hole now. "Yellow Book"...don't get me started, attempted to get one three times, and the local Kweng keeps changing his rules.. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true blue Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 22 hours ago, LivinLOS said: No answer on how in your mind Nancy has effected the entire countries immigration offices ?? Because it started in Chiang Mai no were else then it boomerang around the country as a money spinner.they don't implement it in Bangkok.so judge for yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, true blue said: Because it started in Chiang Mai no were else then it boomerang around the country as a money spinner.they don't implement it in Bangkok.so judge for yourself Can you point to evidence that it started in Chiang Mai? It really started after the Erawan bombing with several provinces with a high number of foreigners being targeted. I think you give me W-A-Y too much credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true blue Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, NancyL said: Can you point to evidence that it started in Chiang Mai? It really started after the Erawan bombing with several provinces with a high number of foreigners being targeted. I think you give me W-A-Y too much credit. Is that why they banned you from promada immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, true blue said: Is that why they banned you from promada immigration. How did she do her last reports/extensions if she is banned - G4T ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true blue Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 30 minutes ago, Thailand said: How did she do her last reports/extensions if she is banned - G4T ? Was ask her.only warned off for interfering in every day business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Well, no technically I wasn't "interfering" but rather observing, at a distance, from public areas of the mall and reporting what I was seeing to the various Consuls and Embassies. Plus all you kind folks on Thai Visa.com benefited from my reports. (Who can forget my photos of those beautiful goats in the customer waiting area? No really, real goats.) I never "observed" or took photos inside the Immigration offices. I was around the mall so much, that Prom. became a sponsor of CEC. I guess I was spending so much on food and beverage that I became one of their best customers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true blue Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 44 minutes ago, NancyL said: Well, no technically I wasn't "interfering" but rather observing, at a distance, from public areas of the mall and reporting what I was seeing to the various Consuls and Embassies. Plus all you kind folks on Thai Visa.com benefited from my reports. (Who can forget my photos of those beautiful goats in the customer waiting area? No really, real goats.) I never "observed" or took photos inside the Immigration offices. I was around the mall so much, that Prom. became a sponsor of CEC. I guess I was spending so much on food and beverage that I became one of their best customers! You trying to Kid me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 But you conviently forget,Nancy L that on this forum you posted, calling for volounteers, to be trained as observers , on day to day operations of the Immgr Dept, etc etc and in addition, asked for any video experts , who could produce, under the cover of darkness, etc etc, and crazily, around around the Bangkok bombing times which I.M.O led to your ban etc etc and possibly a TM30 was swung into action, due to your lack of decorum towards C/Mai,s Immgr Dept etc etc now presently you are on another mission impossible, bringing Promenada G4T visa agency , into disrepute,without a single, scap of evidence to support your claims now twist E/S post, around to your ideals its a Chubby Checker , good evening to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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