Friend Visa overstay Gone but not banned

[eddybangkok]

Well a friend from holland he has been here in Thailand 7 months.Overstayed 5.

Party animal good heart but not the full chilling.

Has money allot but fell in love yeah yeah i know..she had a thai boyfriend he then got the attitude of f this place f that i dont care if i ever get banned i am moving to philipines.He flew to philipines yesterday.On leaving thailand he paid 20 thousand baht.Immigration asked him why overstayed and so forth.This dutch guy is very polite and speaks nice with Thai people.Anyway he recieved no stamp in Passport he was expecting a 1 year ban.He asked the IO "i am banned for one year" immigration said no ban can comeback anytime.He should of been banned for 1 year right?

[ubonjoe]

Since we have had no reports of anybody being banned yet I suspect immigration may not be strictly enforcing the rules yet. Perhaps a longer overstay or being a repeat offender will trigger the banning at this time.

[eddybangkok]

Yes ubonjoe i think you are right.I guess at the end of the day it is still up to the immigration officer at the time.Some are more forgiving then others

[jspill]

Not surprising, they want people to come back and keep spending money.

[khwaibah]

Yes ubonjoe i think you are right.I guess at the end of the day it is still up to the immigration officer at the time.Some are more forgiving then others

When did your friend depart Thailand?

[JLCrab]

Not surprising, they want people to come back and keep spending money.

20K baht for an 89 day extension may indeed prove very popular.

[eddybangkok]

He left yesterday

[luke000]

It could be that the 90 day rule began on March 20 .

March 20 being the first day of overstay,

[khwaibah]

He left yesterday

He may of then got lucky as the rule took effect March 20. But then again just because they did not stamp his passport as banned it does not mean his details are in the computer and noted as such. He needs to be aware of such.

[gilo]

Good for your friend. I found immigration to be a lot more reasonable than some would want or claim Although I think your recounting of your friend's experience is likely to cause a spate of indigestion amongst some TV posters and spoil their lunch. .

[robblok]

Not surprising, they want people to come back and keep spending money.

20K baht for an 89 day extension may indeed prove very popular.

If you count on staying 5 years then the elite visa is almost as expensive. (but legal)

[JLCrab]

Not surprising, they want people to come back and keep spending money.

20K baht for an 89 day extension may indeed prove very popular.

If you count on staying 5 years then the elite visa is almost as expensive. (but legal)

Sure -- but the Elite is paid up-front lump-sum and the 89-day extension version is pay as you go and as necessary.

[lkv]

It could be that the 90 day rule began on March 20 .

March 20 being the first day of overstay,

Or it may be something else.

[luke000]

It could be that the 90 day rule began on March 20 .

March 20 being the first day of overstay,

Or it may be something else.

Good point , I hadnt thought of that

[elviajero]

Wow, you and your mate must be truly blessed!

Four days ago, after the bans start, you're arrested with a 40 day overstay, but after a night in a cell released and avoid a potential 5 year ban. "Under the new law i should of been banned for what 5 years?" http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/904898-overstay/?p=10557260 Then the first report of someone not being banned when leaving with a 90+ day overstay happens to be one of your stand up top geezer mates! "He should of been banned for 1 year right?"

Both timely reports come from someone that has been here a short time, overstayed twice, and appears in every overstay thread criticising anti overstay opinions. I did/do expect a honeymoon period and hope IO's have certain ongoing discretion, but until there is a report from a more credible person, without a clear agenda, I will reserve judgement on the enforcement of the new rules

[Eclipse]

Wow, you and your mate must be truly blessed!

Four days ago, after the bans start, you're arrested with a 40 day overstay, but after a night in a cell released and avoid a potential 5 year ban. "Under the new law i should of been banned for what 5 years?" Then yesterday the first report of someone not being banned when leaving with a 90+ day overstay happens to be one of your stand up top geezer mates! "He should of been banned for 1 year right?"

Both timely reports come from someone that has been here a short time, overstated twice, and appears in every overstay thread criticising anti overstay opinions. I did/do expect a honeymoon period and hope IO's have certain ongoing discretion, but until there is a report from a more credible person, without a clear agenda, I will reserve judgement on the enforcement of the new rules.

He is truly a blessed individual. We all look up to him.

[BangkokKen]

Surprise surprise

[thai3]

Lets hope they do start to ban people soon, there is no excuse for it, it's not cool, clever or right to break the law.

[lkv]

Lets hope they do start to ban people soon, there is no excuse for it, it's not cool, clever or right to break the law.

YES!

I could not agree more.

Not only it's not cool, but the weather seems to be quite hot over here in Bangkok today.

They are destabilizing the country, according to this.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/905735-immigration-chief-visits-phuket-says-overstay-rules-are-to-keep-the-bad-guys-out/

[lkv]

Oh. By the way. According to the original article here,

http://www.thephuketnews.com/immigration-chief-visits-phuket-says-overstay-rules-are-to-keep-the-bad-guys-out-56773.php

If we are to take those numbers for granted,

323,575 x 20,000 = 6,471,500,000 baht (almost 6.5 billion baht) between Oct 2015 and March 2016.

Good business.

[docspinoff]

it this what a Banned stamp in passport would look like ? this is 2010. cant find any new ones 2016 be nice to see some, to see what they would look like

[ubonjoe]

it this what a Banned stamp in passport would look like ? this is 2010. cant find any new ones 2016 be nice to see some, to see what they would look like

Not sure where you found that image but it appears to be a normal entry stamp with banned added on to it by editing it with Photoshop or some other editing software.

A real banned stamp would be larger with a good deal more info on it and would be in Thai.

[NoshowJones]

Lets hope they do start to ban people soon, there is no excuse for it, it's not cool, clever or right to break the law.

Depends on what the law is.

[HerbalEd]

It could be that the 90 day rule began on March 20 .

March 20 being the first day of overstay,

Or it may be something else.

Good point , I hadnt thought of that

If that were true, then he would not have to pay the 20k baht overstay fine.

[HerbalEd]

it this what a Banned stamp in passport would look like ? this is 2010. cant find any new ones 2016 be nice to see some, to see what they would look like

This appears to be a phony photoshopped photo. Too little info and nothing in Thai. Very lame troll attempt.

[lkv]

It could be that the 90 day rule began on March 20 .

March 20 being the first day of overstay,

Or it may be something else.

Good point , I hadnt thought of that

If that were true, then he would not have to pay the 20k baht overstay fine.

I think all three of us are talking about different things lol.

PS I had a good laugh when I saw that "overstay stamp".

[BritTim]

I must admit to being surprised by this report. It seems the IOs are being allowed to use their judgment on who to ban and who not. I thought the rules would be inflexible. I actually wonder now if the rules are only normally intended to target specific nationalities.

[Linden]

Wonder if he got a receipt for his 20g being polite he might ot have asked for one..

I find the tea expensive in airports

[lkv]

I must admit to being surprised by this report. It seems the IOs are being allowed to use their judgment on who to ban and who not. I thought the rules would be inflexible. I actually wonder now if the rules are only normally intended to target specific nationalities.

Or maybe "surrendering" and getting a ban means being processed through court. So the airport could be an exception if the IOs do not want to bother with the court hassle and the passenger is ready to go.

[lkv]

You know...English...Thai. Maybe they meant surrendering and being prosecuted or arrested and being prosecuted.

Just saying.