Avoid Zoe during Songkran

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

Avoid this place like the plague, unless you like a whole bunch of a-hole backpackers.

I went tonight, and cannot believe all the loser backpackers there. I've been several times, though not lately, and have never seen it this crowded or with such lewd behavior. Even the nearby 7/11 was packed with people drinking out front and a 15 minute line.

I'd rather party at central than here.... so gross.

I cannot stand these backpackers.... i could only imagine khao san rd.

Last year I went to Zoe, but was nothing like tonight.

if you were there, you know what i mean.

[dcnx]

I'm with you. Seems this year it has attracted the absolute lowest form of tourist possible. Most of them look like filthy vagrants, staggering about in the road and acting like idiots.

I was driving through last night and a few were standing right in the middle of the road as you turn in from the corner. I paused to wait, and waited, but couldn't go around due to walkers and baht bus, so I did a quick beep. Instantly, one of them wanted to fight me, tossed his beer bottle at the ground and started mouthing off. I'm not trying to end up in jail over one of these low class losers so I just u-turned and drove off. The lot of them look like they had been living on the streets for a few years.

Went around the other way and saw the rest of the bar goers in the area and didn't bother stopping. It was a scum show.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

I'm with you. Seems this year it has attracted the absolute lowest form of tourist possible. Most of them look like filthy vagrants, staggering about in the road and acting like idiots.

I was driving through last night and a few were standing right in the middle of the road as you turn in from the corner. I paused to wait, and waited, but couldn't go around due to walkers and baht bus, so I did a quick beep. Instantly, one of them wanted to fight me, tossed his beer bottle at the ground and started mouthing off. I'm not trying to end up in jail over one of these low class losers so I just u-turned and drove off. The lot of them look like they had been living on the streets for a few years.

Went around the other way and saw the rest of the bar goers in the area and didn't bother stopping. It was a scum show.

Exactly!

Saw the same thing. In addition, I also saw males taking water bottles and going at women's butts with it.... men slapping women on motorbikes, backpackers jumping on cars/motos, backpackers dragging motos with females drivers so they cannot go forward, beer bottle throwers, drunk mess losers, etc....

i expected it, but not like how it was tonight.

[robertthebruce]

Thailand does attract a lot of Dreggs......

I thought most went to Pattaya....

[brommers]

A good example of a bar made notorious by regular raids with the attendant press and social media coverage and frequently critical reviews, not least on TV. It is now attracting the basest forms of life and making a fortune in the process! Thank goodness these people have been drawn away from other decent bars where we can drink with less unwanted unpleasant distraction.

[Rob13]

i avoid it anyway.

[Oscar2]

my observation yesterday: 1st of all, tourism must be off by 35% or more? couldn't believe how light the crowds were at KSK Songkran festival. 2nd, there are more backpacker types (and the worst of the backpacker types i've seen in years), really rude, drunk in the street types. 3rd, the 'quality' (as the government calls it) of Chinese tourists are the worst kee nok types imaginable. i saw about 12 of them commissioning a red bus and the lady driver wanted 480 Bath to take them where they wanted to go and drive them around a bit. they countered her with 200 Bath! she explained to them that she would be unable to do anything for about 90 minutes because they wanted to go down Huay Kaew which was at a complete standstill. they were so rude to the driver it was unbelievable. i overheard them raise the offer to 220 at which the driver who was incredibly patient told them to exit the songtaew. at that point a Chinese woman about 25 y/o literally threw the money at the driver and she had to reach down on the ground and pick it up. total scum.

[slipperylobster]

Yellow Zoe has been attracting young backpackers for years. Went there last Halloween..and it was pretty wild. Last Songkran was no different.

I think most of us locals already know the deal with yellow zoe. It would be much like saying "don't go to Disneyland because there are too many children".

anyways....thanks for the warning.

[jacko45k]

Thailand does attract a lot of Dreggs......

I thought most went to Pattaya....

What with Khao San Rd etc being in Bangkok, much closer to where they landed!

[DGS1244]

A good example of a bar made notorious by regular raids with the attendant press and social media coverage and frequently critical reviews, not least on TV. It is now attracting the basest forms of life and making a fortune in the process! Thank goodness these people have been drawn away from other decent bars where we can drink with less unwanted unpleasant distraction.

It does not have regular raids, only one this year and then they were found to be free of drugs. Guess you are just bias, no one is forcing you to go and it keeps the tourists happy so what?

[LannaGuy]

used to be a bit better few years ago but i agree it's gone way on down

[user82374298374]

Who or what is 'Zoe', in this context?

[johnno2]

Who or what is 'Zoe', in this context?

i love google. so easy to use. you just put in what you are looking for and viola.... there it is.....you should try it one day.....https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g293917-d3915397-Reviews-Zoe_in_Yellow-Chiang_Mai.html

[AgMech Cowboy]

Yes, where is Zoe. I've never heard of it, but then I don't get out much either.

[Rob13]

Next to Fat Elvis. If you haven't been; you're not missing much

[AgMech Cowboy]

Hi Johnno2. Thanks. Don't be such an a'hole. I did Google, but I think you knew a little more than Disambiguated and I. So you could give it more context or maybe you Google better then us.

[HooHaa]

I'm with you. Seems this year it has attracted the absolute lowest form of tourist possible. Most of them look like filthy vagrants, staggering about in the road and acting like idiots.

I was driving through last night and a few were standing right in the middle of the road as you turn in from the corner. I paused to wait, and waited, but couldn't go around due to walkers and baht bus, so I did a quick beep. Instantly, one of them wanted to fight me, tossed his beer bottle at the ground and started mouthing off. I'm not trying to end up in jail over one of these low class losers so I just u-turned and drove off. The lot of them look like they had been living on the streets for a few years.

Went around the other way and saw the rest of the bar goers in the area and didn't bother stopping. It was a scum show.

what a miserable bunch of old farts you are.

perhaps you are just past it.

[willfreeman]

they normally stagger five a breast down the road at closing time with no concern for traffic, being a farang i drove slowly behind waiting for them to notice or a small beep of the horn the thai tuk tuk drivers give them no quarter and nearly take their heels off, surprised there hasnt been people ran over at closing time

full of local women who want money for sex, hilariously though they claim 'im not same lady bar na', apparently you can be a hooker but not a hooker who knew

[Denim]

Who or what is 'Zoe', in this context?

i love google. so easy to use. you just put in what you are looking for and viola.... there it is.....you should try it one day.....https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g293917-d3915397-Reviews-Zoe_in_Yellow-Chiang_Mai.html

The first trip advisor review begins :

" Me and my boyfriend ......."

so I guess these quality tourists also dabble in a bit of English tuition when they are not munted.

[BritManToo]

A good example of a bar made notorious by regular raids with the attendant press and social media coverage and frequently critical reviews, not least on TV. It is now attracting the basest forms of life and making a fortune in the process! Thank goodness these people have been drawn away from other decent bars where we can drink with less unwanted unpleasant distraction.

It does not have regular raids, only one this year and then they were found to be free of drugs. Guess you are just bias, no one is forcing you to go and it keeps the tourists happy so what?

Wasn't it closed for a couple of weeks by the police after the bouncers kicked a foreigner to death earlier this year?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/847649-why-is-zoe-in-yellow-closed/

Not this year, last August.

And more tourist beatings here,

http://www.thewanderlist.net/thailand/chiang-mai-zoe-in-yellow/

Edited April 14, 2016 by BritManToo

[Kabula]

The Zombies have arrived!

Practice avoidance and let them inflict harm on each other!

Save a sink....take it to a room!

Edited April 14, 2016 by Kabula

[anto]

Thailand does attract a lot of Dreggs......

I thought most went to Pattaya....

Pattaya was /is a backpacker free zone last time i was there .(last year ) .

[marioc]

used to be a bit better few years ago but i agree it's gone way on down

I couldn't agree more.... until 5 or 6 years ago it was not that bad. Now I am not going there anymore. I guess I am getting too old at 54

[Suradit69]

Thailand does attract a lot of Dreggs......

I thought most went to Pattaya....

We get only higher class society's dregs in Pattaya. And they tend to stay in select areas of Pattaya ... the areas that people who claim they would never come here seem to know all about.

[orang37]

I prefer the walking dead stay in their zones, and nothing compels me to go there, thanks.

~o:37;

[orang37]

my observation yesterday: 1st of all, tourism must be off by 35% or more? couldn't believe how light the crowds were at KSK Songkran festival. 2nd, there are more backpacker types (and the worst of the backpacker types i've seen in years), really rude, drunk in the street types. 3rd, the 'quality' (as the government calls it) of Chinese tourists are the worst kee nok types imaginable. i saw about 12 of them commissioning a red bus and the lady driver wanted 480 Bath to take them where they wanted to go and drive them around a bit. they countered her with 200 Bath! she explained to them that she would be unable to do anything for about 90 minutes because they wanted to go down Huay Kaew which was at a complete standstill. they were so rude to the driver it was unbelievable. i overheard them raise the offer to 220 at which the driver who was incredibly patient told them to exit the songtaew. at that point a Chinese woman about 25 y/o literally threw the money at the driver and she had to reach down on the ground and pick it up. total scum.

Wow: thanks for posting (at last) some content about (your observations of) the economic context of Songkran in Chiang Mai, this year !

cheers, ~o:37;

[off road pat]

my observation yesterday: 1st of all, tourism must be off by 35% or more? couldn't believe how light the crowds were at KSK Songkran festival. 2nd, there are more backpacker types (and the worst of the backpacker types i've seen in years), really rude, drunk in the street types. 3rd, the 'quality' (as the government calls it) of Chinese tourists are the worst kee nok types imaginable. i saw about 12 of them commissioning a red bus and the lady driver wanted 480 Bath to take them where they wanted to go and drive them around a bit. they countered her with 200 Bath! she explained to them that she would be unable to do anything for about 90 minutes because they wanted to go down Huay Kaew which was at a complete standstill. they were so rude to the driver it was unbelievable. i overheard them raise the offer to 220 at which the driver who was incredibly patient told them to exit the songtaew. at that point a Chinese woman about 25 y/o literally threw the money at the driver and she had to reach down on the ground and pick it up. total scum.

And throwing money at someone in Thailand is a big offence !!! VERY BIG OFFENCE !!!! Money has the ******'s portrait on it !!!

To bad no policeman was around ?!? Some large amounts of money would change hands, to avoid prison.!

Remember when a Swiss man went to Jail for drawing a moustache on a ******'s portrait....?

Best Regards.

I wrote ******'s myself to avoid further complications.....?!

Edited April 14, 2016 by off road pat

[MadMac]

Been in the city before lunch. They just started to throw stinking moat water at each other. Disgusting. Lot's of foreigners, not only asians, also many farangs, who don't know how to walk or drive. Queues in front of 7/11. When the crowd is drunk a bit later, accidents will just happen.

The old city is again fully commercialized, sellers of all kind of cr*p everywhere, temples become bazaars, there is nothing traditional at all. Just a big, stinking, dirty mess with lots of id*ots inside.

A bit further outside it's different, people have clean water, kids play at the side of the street and have fun. Nice enough for a short stop and a smile.

[Chicog]

And they try and pay for their som tam with their debit cards.

Awful, common people.

[Myshkin]

What a bunch of grumpy old farts!